The State of the Republican Party Post-2017

[Bakery Hill]

My hypothesis is still proving accurate. Scratch a "libertarian" and you can see the fascist underneath that golden sheen.

"I disagree with this person, therefore he is a fascist!"
C'mon now.

In a political science sense I would be very much incorrect. In terms of shorthand I think you know what I'm getting at. You're willing to excuse authoritarianism and racism so long as it seen to oppress collectivism. This is the basis of the historical function of fascism.

[Northern Davincia]

Also to be perfectly fair to Davincia, I would not label him as a fascist.

Gracias, mi amigo.

Also to be perfectly fair to Davincia, I would not label him as a fascist.

Perhaps not, but he seems to be pushing the Pinochet bandwagon a lot.

I do it for the same reason communists make gulag memes or praise Stalin ironically. I prefer biplanes to helicopters anyway.

[Bakery Hill]

Also to be perfectly fair to Davincia, I would not label him as a fascist.

Gracias, mi amigo.

Perhaps not, but he seems to be pushing the Pinochet bandwagon a lot.

I do it for the same reason communists make gulag memes or praise Stalin ironically. I prefer biplanes to helicopters anyway.

But it's more than irony, just like most Stalin praise is.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Also to be perfectly fair to Davincia, I would not label him as a fascist.

Gracias, mi amigo.

Perhaps not, but he seems to be pushing the Pinochet bandwagon a lot.

I do it for the same reason communists make gulag memes or praise Stalin ironically. I prefer biplanes to helicopters anyway.

>biplanes

It's like you want the commies to shoot you down with small arms, smh

[Bakery Hill]

Gracias, mi amigo.

I do it for the same reason communists make gulag memes or praise Stalin ironically. I prefer biplanes to helicopters anyway.

>biplanes

It's like you want the commies to shoot you down with small arms, smh

Hey, whatever makes our lives easier.

[Arlenton]

Gracias, mi amigo.

I do it for the same reason communists make gulag memes or praise Stalin ironically. I prefer biplanes to helicopters anyway.

>biplanes

It's like you want the commies to shoot you down with small arms, smh

Actually, commies used biplanes against modern aircraft on the Eastern Front against fascists and in Korea against capitalists with success.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_Po-2

[Northern Davincia]

"I disagree with this person, therefore he is a fascist!"
C'mon now.

In a political science sense I would be very much incorrect. In terms of shorthand I think you know what I'm getting at. You're willing to excuse authoritarianism and racism so long as it seen to oppress collectivism. This is the basis of the historical function of fascism.

Fascism is collectivist by nature. I am in favor of whatever means will, eventually, give way to individualism proper.

>biplanes

It's like you want the commies to shoot you down with small arms, smh

Actually, commies used biplanes against modern aircraft on the Eastern Front against fascists and in Korea against capitalists with success.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_Po-2

When in doubt, upgrade.

[Bakery Hill]

In a political science sense I would be very much incorrect. In terms of shorthand I think you know what I'm getting at. You're willing to excuse authoritarianism and racism so long as it seen to oppress collectivism. This is the basis of the historical function of fascism.

Fascism is collectivist by nature. I am in favor of whatever means will, eventually, give way to individualism proper.

There we go, it's good that is clear.

[Collatis]

For realsies though can we agree that Reagan fuckin sucked? I don't get why so many people on the right like him, he was totally out of his mind by his second term.

You'll get no disagreement from me. I rank him as one of our worst presidents.

[Nulla Bellum]

For realsies though can we agree that Reagan fuckin sucked? I don't get why so many people on the right like him, he was totally out of his mind by his second term.

What was that whole talk to commies instead of nuking them shit about anyway?

[Corrian]

For realsies though can we agree that Reagan fuckin sucked? I don't get why so many people on the right like him, he was totally out of his mind by his second term.

You'll get no disagreement from me. I rank him as one of our worst presidents.

I am not well versed on Presidential histories, but my dad calls him one of the worst President's in his lifetime.

[Telconi]

For realsies though can we agree that Reagan fuckin sucked? I don't get why so many people on the right like him, he was totally out of his mind by his second term.

Yes.

Because "fiscal responsibility" is just seen as cutting taxes, in reality Reagan's fiscal policies were very irresponsible. Cutting taxes with no method of significantly reducing expenditures just creates runaway debt. And screws over posterity.

[Northern Davincia]

For realsies though can we agree that Reagan fuckin sucked? I don't get why so many people on the right like him, he was totally out of his mind by his second term.

Yes.

Because "fiscal responsibility" is just seen as cutting taxes, in reality Reagan's fiscal policies were very irresponsible. Cutting taxes with no method of significantly reducing expenditures just creates runaway debt. And screws over posterity.

*Democratic obstruction intensifies*

[Trumptonium]

Because if the voting public only voted for people whose views are entirely in line with their own from A to Z we would be in a situation of 137 000 000 votes for 137 000 000 candidates.

It's really not that hard to understand.

Let me whatabout again, who else would they back?

You know they can do that right? They can write in someone for president.


The other two candidates or whomever they want to run the country.

Now, do you still stand by the argument that they care about the environment according to you, or do the actions of the candidate they supported and his words that want to damage the environment and the actions he has done convinced you otherwise that they don't care about the environment?

I stand by my view that expecting people to vote only for those who are a perfect representation of their own political views is beyond delusional.

Let me whatabout again, who else would they back?

Good question. They had numerous other choices.

They could choose not to vote. They could vote Hillary (shudder), or they could vote for one of the smaller candidates to show that their values have support, even if victory is very unlikely.

Or they could just vote Jeb, like everyone else wants to.

None of those choices are closer to the views of the hypothetical group we're talking about.

[Northern Davincia]

Got any thoughts on what to do about gerrymandering and voter ID laws?

[Telconi]

Got any thoughts on what to do about gerrymandering and voter ID laws?

-Computers

-Leave them be.

[Fauxia]

Got any thoughts on what to do about gerrymandering and voter ID laws?

Not sure if I’m really against gerrymandering, pro ID laws though

[Valrifell]

Got any thoughts on what to do about gerrymandering and voter ID laws?

-Computers

Here's a thought, what if we take maps of states and have an algorithm to divide them into x randomly drawn districts.

[Telconi]

-Computers

Here's a thought, what if we take maps of states and have an algorithm to divide them into x randomly drawn districts.

Basically what I was going for. Have a computer program that makes all the districts as evenly populated and geographically congruent as possible.

[Petrasylvania]

Gerrymandering can't be changed until redistricting. Voter ID laws are currently designed so that lower income minorities and other Democrat-leaning people are presented with farcical obstacles in obtaining valid ID such as lone office locations far away from cities and high fees which combined with the limited free time most lower income groups have successfully deterred them from getting an ID and thus voting. Either obtaining proper ID should not be such glaring backdoor voter suppression attempt or voter ID laws need to be abolished completely.

[The of Japan]

"I disagree with this person, therefore he is a fascist!"
C'mon now.

In a political science sense I would be very much incorrect. In terms of shorthand I think you know what I'm getting at. You're willing to excuse authoritarianism and racism so long as it seen to oppress collectivism. This is the basis of the historical function of fascism.

Libertarianism is not fascism

[The of Japan]

Gerrymandering can't be changed until redistricting. Voter ID laws are currently designed so that lower income minorities and other Democrat-leaning people are presented with farcical obstacles in obtaining valid ID such as lone office locations far away from cities and high fees which combined with the limited free time most lower income groups have successfully deterred them from getting an ID and thus voting. Either obtaining proper ID should not be such glaring backdoor voter suppression attempt or voter ID laws need to be abolished completely.

Them issue all citizens state ID cards

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

You know they can do that right? They can write in someone for president.


The other two candidates or whomever they want to run the country.

Now, do you still stand by the argument that they care about the environment according to you, or do the actions of the candidate they supported and his words that want to damage the environment and the actions he has done convinced you otherwise that they don't care about the environment?

I stand by my view that expecting people to vote only for those who are a perfect representation of their own political views is beyond delusional.
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Your right to hold that view, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do the edgy memelords care enough about the environment like you first stated, or do they do not care that much about the environment?

[Trumptonium]

I stand by my view that expecting people to vote only for those who are a perfect representation of their own political views is beyond delusional.
.

Your right to hold that view, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do the edgy memelords care enough about the environment like you first stated, or do they do not care that much about the environment?

Now you're asking a different question.

The original question was

You made an assertion that the "edgy meme crowd" is in favour of the environment

Not whether they 'care enough' about the environment.

In original question one, I stand by my answer that yes, they do.

In question number two, the answer is probably not, not as a national priority anyway.

[Telconi]

I stand by my view that expecting people to vote only for those who are a perfect representation of their own political views is beyond delusional.
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Your right to hold that view, but it doesn't answer my question.

Do the edgy memelords care enough about the environment like you first stated, or do they do not care that much about the environment?

How much is 'enough' though?