Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[Socialista Mozambique]

But according to Matthew 5:28, "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart," so being attracted to people of the same sex by itself is just as bad as engaging in homosexual intercourse, which is a sin. More than a sin, Leviticus 18:22 describes it as an abomination, and repeats this again in 20:13, which also adds that they are to be be put to death.

Lust is usually considered separate to attraction, nowhere in the Bible does it depict the relationship between a 'proper' married couple as lustful. However, I see your point.

I'm fully aware that homosexuality is a sin and referred to as an abomination in Leviticus. I even asked Allyria what she thought of that when she said that homosexuality wasn't a sin.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I'm fully aware that homosexuality is a sin and referred to as an abomination in Leviticus. I even asked Allyria what she thought of that when she said that homosexuality wasn't a sin.

Homosexuality isn't considered to be a sin, homosexual acts are considered to be sinful.

[Dumb Ideologies]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

This is the leftism that hath been wrought by liberal excesses.

Can you feel the urge, the urge to purge?

[Socialista Mozambique]

Homosexuality isn't considered to be a sin, merely the act.

That's what I'm typically referring to when I say homosexuality is a sin.

[War Gears]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Because it's not like Christian socialists have ever been a - oh wait.

[Asherahan]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

This is the leftism that hath been wrought by liberal excesses.

Can you feel the urge, the urge to purge?

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Homosexuality isn't considered to be a sin, merely the act.

That's what I'm typically referring to when I say homosexuality is a sin.

Ah. Apologies, I thought you were referring to homosexuality as the sexuality rather than the acts.

[Socialista Mozambique]

Ah. Apologies, I thought you were referring to homosexuality as a sexuality.

I mean, it is a sexuality.

[The Snazzylands]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

You can't study and discuss religion from a secular standpoint?

[Mattopilos II]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

You can't study and discuss religion from a secular standpoint?

Sure, but I tend to come to political threads like this for the act of discussing leftism, not "religion through the eyes of secularism".

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Because it's not like Christian socialists have ever been a - oh wait.

You think I respect christian socialists?
GOTEEM

[Asherahan]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

You can't study and discuss religion from a secular standpoint?

Also someone dared to call Jesus Christ a socialsit

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Ah. Apologies, I thought you were referring to homosexuality as a sexuality.

I mean, it is a sexuality.

I was under the impression, when I had replied, that you were declaring that the sexuality in of itself was a sin; I now understand that you were referring to the acts of homosexuality.

[Dejanic]

This discussion really isn't relevant to the thread and belongs in the CDT.

Also, whilst I am religious and Socialist, I feel very uneasy when someone claims Jesus was a Socialist; it's fine to say your politics are inspired upon his teachings and your personal beliefs, but to act like he was a card carrying Socialist is incorrect. He certainly wasn't Capitalist however, and rightists who somehow claim their anti poor, pro individualist, pro selfishness economic ideology correlates with Jesus's teachings in anyway are jokers.

The "Christian right" and Lolbertarian economic ideologies actually correlates very well with Satanism (no joke, look into what Satanists actually believe), it's all about personal responsibility, selfishness and "power".

[Asherahan]

This discussion really isn't relevant to the thread and belongs in the CDT.

Also, whilst I am religious and Socialist, I feel very uneasy when someone claims Jesus was a Socialist; it's fine to say your politics are inspired upon his teachings and your personal beliefs, but to act like he was a card carrying Socialist is incorrect. He certainly wasn't Capitalist however, and rightists who somehow claim their anti poor, pro individualist, pro selfishness economic ideology correlates with Jesus's teachings in anyway are jokers.

At best Jesus had some proto communalist ideas. At best.

[Dejanic]

This discussion really isn't relevant to the thread and belongs in the CDT.

Also, whilst I am religious and Socialist, I feel very uneasy when someone claims Jesus was a Socialist; it's fine to say your politics are inspired upon his teachings and your personal beliefs, but to act like he was a card carrying Socialist is incorrect. He certainly wasn't Capitalist however, and rightists who somehow claim their anti poor, pro individualist, pro selfishness economic ideology correlates with Jesus's teachings in anyway are jokers.

At best Jesus had some proto communalist ideas. At best.

His idea's were communalist/socially inclined, and he was certainly not a Capitalist. That's as far as I'll go.

[Albrenia]

Jesus was a huge hippy usually, imho.

[Bakery Hill]

> Walks into LWDT
> Talking about religion
... remember when leftism was, you know, more anti-religious or at least secular? Pepperidge farm remembers.

It's probably less now than it's ever been?

[The Parkus Empire]

This discussion really isn't relevant to the thread and belongs in the CDT.

Also, whilst I am religious and Socialist, I feel very uneasy when someone claims Jesus was a Socialist; it's fine to say your politics are inspired upon his teachings and your personal beliefs, but to act like he was a card carrying Socialist is incorrect. He certainly wasn't Capitalist however, and rightists who somehow claim their anti poor, pro individualist, pro selfishness economic ideology correlates with Jesus's teachings in anyway are jokers.

The "Christian right" and Lolbertarian economic ideologies actually correlates very well with Satanism (no joke, look into what Satanists actually believe), it's all about personal responsibility, selfishness and "power".

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[The Parkus Empire]

Jesus was a huge hippy usually, imho.

Not really. He was an ascetic, albeit much less strict than John the Baptist. Hippies are basically freespirited and loving hedonists.

[The Parkus Empire]

You mean if I was attacked? I would certainly try to defend myself.

That is good, I'm of the opinion that real pacifism is at times objectively fascist, just like Orwell said.

You won't be saying that when your revolution comes and I don't fight against it. :^)

[The Parkus Empire]

Why is equality desirable?

[War Gears]

You mean if I was attacked? I would certainly try to defend myself.

That is good, I'm of the opinion that real pacifism is at times objectively fascist, just like Orwell said.

Pacifism is objectively an ideology centered around regenerative violence and militarism. Hmmm....

[Northern Davincia]

Antifa isn't a terrorist organization, it's not even an organization.

Correct. Antifa is just an abbreviation for antifascism. I would like to think that most people are Antifa (antifascists). The media, mostly right-wing media, have presented a one-dimensional view of Antifa. There comments tell me more about these media pundits, and their loyalties, than about the Antifa movement.

As I show on my Antifa.red website, I am both Antifa and nonviolent; and, by the way, I am typical.

The media is hardly majority right-wing. Also, Antifa and the condition of being anti-fascist are completely different.
Antifa is nothing more than a band of vigilante anarcho-communists.

[Alvecia]

Why is equality desirable?

Other than the obvious empathetic reasons?

[The Parkus Empire]

Why is equality desirable?

Other than the obvious empathetic reasons?

I fail to see what empathy has to do with it. You do not have to support equality to support reduction of misery.