Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[Kubra]

Monarchs should have been better to the citizens then.



Been around sense 1792. Hasn't destroyed France yet.

I mean that most of them will probably go to Hell for rejecting the faith. Moreover, the monarchy didn't do anything that bad in that situation.

can non-orthodox be saved tho

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean that most of them will probably go to Hell for rejecting the faith. Moreover, the monarchy didn't do anything that bad in that situation.

can non-orthodox be saved tho

Yes.

[Kubra]

can non-orthodox be saved tho

Yes.

even lutherans?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Yes.

even lutherans?

Probably.

[Northern Davincia]

Yes.

even lutherans?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Monarchs should have been better to the citizens then.



Been around sense 1792. Hasn't destroyed France yet.

I mean that most of them will probably go to Hell for rejecting the faith. Moreover, the monarchy didn't do anything that bad in that situation.

"France has a composition of 63-66% Christians"

The majority won't.

Other then let there working class fall apart and make life miserable.

While the monarchs partied and spent loads of money.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean that most of them will probably go to Hell for rejecting the faith. Moreover, the monarchy didn't do anything that bad in that situation.

"France has a composition of 63-66% Christians"

The majority won't.

Other then let there working class fall apart and make life miserable.

Only about a quarter of those actually believe in God.

The monarchy didn't do that.

[Crysuko]

>This is a bad thing.

Indeed it is, as it will result in the ultimate destruction of the vast majority of the French people.

I think we may have a wee bit of drama queen-ism going on here. It's 2017 and the French people are doing quite well, all things considered. According to Wikipedia, France is 39% athiest.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

"France has a composition of 63-66% Christians"

The majority won't.

Other then let there working class fall apart and make life miserable.

Only about a quarter of those actually believe in God.

The monarchy didn't do that.

If you are Christian, then yes you do believe in god.

Yes they did.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Only about a quarter of those actually believe in God.

The monarchy didn't do that.

If you are Christian, then yes you do believe in god.

Yes they did.

According to the Eurobarometer Poll conducted in 2010,[4] 27% of French citizens responded that they "believe there is a God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_France

Your source doesn't say anything about them making things bad for the people.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

If you are Christian, then yes you do believe in god.

Yes they did.

According to the Eurobarometer Poll conducted in 2010,[4] 27% of French citizens responded that they "believe there is a God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_France

Your source doesn't say anything about them making things bad for the people.

And then 27% answered that they "believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".

So, 54% of them believe in god.


"Marie Antoinette helped provoke the popular unrest that led to the French Revolution and to the overthrow of the monarchy in August 1792."

"Beginning in 1780, Marie Antoinette began spending more and more time at the Petit Trianon, her private castle on the grounds of the Palace of Versailles, almost always without the king. Around this time the first rumors surfaced about her relationship with Swedish diplomat Count Axel von Fersen. During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit.""

Publicly blowing money on stupid shit in a increasingly poor country when the government was increasingly broke.

Sounds like they where making things bad for the people.

[United Muscovite Nations]

According to the Eurobarometer Poll conducted in 2010,[4] 27% of French citizens responded that they "believe there is a God"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_France

Your source doesn't say anything about them making things bad for the people.

And then 27% answered that they "believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".

So, 54% of them believe in god.


"Marie Antoinette helped provoke the popular unrest that led to the French Revolution and to the overthrow of the monarchy in August 1792."

"Beginning in 1780, Marie Antoinette began spending more and more time at the Petit Trianon, her private castle on the grounds of the Palace of Versailles, almost always without the king. Around this time the first rumors surfaced about her relationship with Swedish diplomat Count Axel von Fersen. During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit.""

The Christian God is not "some sort of spirit or life force."

That has nothing to do with her making things bad, that has everything to do with people not liking her because she wasn't suffering.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

And then 27% answered that they "believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".

So, 54% of them believe in god.


"Marie Antoinette helped provoke the popular unrest that led to the French Revolution and to the overthrow of the monarchy in August 1792."

"Beginning in 1780, Marie Antoinette began spending more and more time at the Petit Trianon, her private castle on the grounds of the Palace of Versailles, almost always without the king. Around this time the first rumors surfaced about her relationship with Swedish diplomat Count Axel von Fersen. During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit.""

The Christian God is not "some sort of spirit or life force."

That has nothing to do with her making things bad, that has everything to do with people not liking her because she wasn't suffering.

Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

"Instead of helping us, the Queen is spending money on stupid shit!"

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Christian God is not "some sort of spirit or life force."

That has nothing to do with her making things bad, that has everything to do with people not liking her because she wasn't suffering.

Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

"Instead of helping us, the Queen is spending money on stupid shit!"

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

[Genivaria]

Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

"Instead of helping us, the Queen is spending money on stupid shit!"

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

I would disagree since their funding of the American revolution DID kinda bankrupt them.

[Crysuko]

Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

"Instead of helping us, the Queen is spending money on stupid shit!"

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

So the fact that they couldn't afford food or amenities while she threw money around like it was no object had nothing to do with it?

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

So the fact that they couldn't afford food or amenities while she threw money around like it was no object had nothing to do with it?

It's not that they couldn't afford food, it's that there was actually a shortage of food.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity.

"Instead of helping us, the Queen is spending money on stupid shit!"

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

If you are part of Christianity then you most likely worship the holy spirit.


" During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit."

[United Muscovite Nations]

The Holy Spirit is a little more complicated than that.

Their problems had little to do with money, and money wouldn't have alleviated them.

If you are part of Christianity then you most likely worship the holy spirit.


" During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit."

I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is God, it's not just some spirit or life force. That understanding of it would be heresy; the Holy Spirit is a person of God.

Poor harvests were the problem, money can't fix poor harvests.

Moreover, the French Revolution didn't actually solve the problem, and, in fact, many historians argue it made it much worse.

[El Hamidah]

The hatred of religion and spirituality is the weakest part about a lot of the Left. Alienates a lot of people and basically serves no purpose anymore.

[Crysuko]

If you are part of Christianity then you most likely worship the holy spirit.


" During the 1780s, with the French government sliding into financial turmoil and poor harvests driving up grain prices across the country, Marie Antoinette's fabulously extravagant lifestyle increasingly became the subject of popular ire. Countless pamphlets accused the queen of ignorance, extravagance and adultery, some featuring salacious cartoons and others dubbing her "Madame Deficit."

I'm saying that the Holy Spirit is God, it's not just some spirit or life force. That understanding of it would be heresy; the Holy Spirit is a person of God.

Poor harvests were the problem, money can't fix poor harvests.

Moreover, the French Revolution didn't actually solve the problem, and, in fact, many historians argue it made it much worse.

If the government invested in trying to improve the land and perhaps importing food as opposed to blowing it all on the monarchy...

[United Muscovite Nations]

The hatred of religion and spirituality is the weakest part about a lot of the Left. Alienates a lot of people and basically serves no purpose anymore.

I mean, it's the main reason I don't think collaborating with leftists is a possibility for me. I think they would probably either kill me or destroy my church.

[Crysuko]

The hatred of religion and spirituality is the weakest part about a lot of the Left. Alienates a lot of people and basically serves no purpose anymore.

I mean, it's the main reason I don't think collaborating with leftists is a possibility for me. I think they would probably either kill me or destroy my church.

Let me put it this way, I'll only burn your bible if you bash me with it first.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I mean, it's the main reason I don't think collaborating with leftists is a possibility for me. I think they would probably either kill me or destroy my church.

Let me put it this way, I'll only burn your bible if you bash me with it first.

That didn't hold true in the last round of socialist revolutions.

What constitutes "bashing"?

[Genivaria]

The hatred of religion and spirituality is the weakest part about a lot of the Left. Alienates a lot of people and basically serves no purpose anymore.

I mean, it's the main reason I don't think collaborating with leftists is a possibility for me. I think they would probably either kill me or destroy my church.

Ah but if I destroyed your Church it would be rather difficult to tax it.