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Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:37 pm**

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:

But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

Olympic longjumpers wish they could make leaps this big

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:47 pm**

War Gears wrote:But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

Would, therefore, you define yourself as a fascist or neofascist?

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:11 pm**

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:

But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

No, because even if he did he'd remain a totalitarian with no respect for anyone outside of his elitist Catholic worldview.

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:14 pm**

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
War Gears wrote:But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

Would, therefore, you define yourself as a fascist or neofascist?

No, how does that even follow from what I said.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:33 am**

alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:12 am**

War Gears wrote:No, how does that even follow from what I said.

It seemed like a logical conclusion from what you wrote, but I am pleased you are not.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:17 am**

Kubra wrote:alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig

If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:20 am**

Bakery Hill wrote:
Kubra wrote:alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig

If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.

I thought that was more "get ass, don't tell Hillary"

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:47 am**

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.

I thought that was more "get ass, don't tell Hillary"

Close enough's good enough really.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:47 am**

Northern Davincia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism

Franco wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:50 am**

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.

I have never tipped over a trash can.

Then I take it your pastime is breaking windows?

Cekoviu wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Franco wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was.

Machiavellian though he was, he wasn't 'bad'.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:57 am**

Northern Davincia wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
I have never tipped over a trash can.

Then I take it your pastime is breaking windows?
Cekoviu wrote:Yes he was.

Machiavellian though he was, he wasn't 'bad'.

A: ad hominem, not an argument
B: he ordered atrocities to happen and brutally crushed anyone who opposed him, yes he fecking was.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:57 am**

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:

But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

Yes, it's called "class war", emphasis on the war.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:22 am**

Crysuko wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Franco wasn't all that bad.

They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.

he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:25 am**

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

do explain

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:29 am**

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

do explain

Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:29 am**

War Gears wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak

I never knew Juan Carlos I died in a car bomb.

Not Juan Carlos, Luis Carrero Blanco, the prime minister.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:30 am**

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:do explain

Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
[b]Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea[/b]. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.

elaborate, this is what i'm asking about

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:31 am**

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:35 am**

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism

The political stagnation of the Falangist Party probably played a much bigger role than providing them a martyr.

Blanco was clearly supported by Franco to succeed him. The next pick after Blanco's death was unable to balance various factions of the party, while resistance to the Franco regime became more concrete and organized (for example, the ETA).

Blanco might have been capable of preserving the regime. The ETA's actions surely accelerated the regime's end.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:35 am**

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
[b]Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea[/b]. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.

elaborate, this is what i'm asking about

Have you seen the Union of Britain?

Community Values wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS

My boy Carl will win this fight!

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:37 am**

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:elaborate, this is what i'm asking about

Have you seen the Union of Britain?

Community Values wrote:Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS

My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:40 am**

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Have you seen the Union of Britain?

My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7VAxt7Dhs8&t=1s

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:43 am**

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Have you seen the Union of Britain?

My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

In Kaiserreich, syndicalists have the tendency to show up when things are bad and make things even worse.

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:46 am**

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

In Kaiserreich, syndicalists have the tendency to show up when things are bad and make things even worse.

worse how.

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