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What type of leftist are you?

Left-leaning Centrist
105
13%
Left/Social Liberal
74
9%
Social Democrat
115
14%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Marxist Communist
139
17%
Social Anarchist
50
6%
Individualist Anarchist
38
5%
Revolutionary Syndicalist
39
5%
Communalist
27
3%
Other (Please Post)
71
9%
 
Total votes : 797

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:41 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Renaissance art began focusing on Christ as purely human. For instance, in prior art depicting the creation of Adam, Christ (who was the canonical athropomorphic rendering of God) was shown to be doing it. With the Renaissance, there comes an old guy as God who looks nothing like Christ, which makes a hard distinction between Christ and God. A new aesthetic exalting flesh and sensuality (even in Christ) becomes dominant, as opposed to prior art which stressed abstraction, asceticism and modesty.


That was partially because Renaissance thinkers were influenced by the knowledge of the Arabs via the Crusades. They began focusing on the humanity of Christ (which, by the way, did not contradict the official position of the Roman Catholic Church), but they did not deny his divinity.

Arguably, the most left-of-center scholastic priest of the Middle Ages, William of Ockham, never renounced his faith. For a time, the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated William (mostly for arguing, in contemporary terms, for a unique place for the public sphere), but that excommunication was shortly reversed.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:43 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Renaissance art began focusing on Christ as purely human. For instance, in prior art depicting the creation of Adam, Christ (who was the canonical athropomorphic rendering of God) was shown to be doing it. With the Renaissance, there comes an old guy as God who looks nothing like Christ, which makes a hard distinction between Christ and God. A new aesthetic exalting flesh and sensuality (even in Christ) becomes dominant, as opposed to prior art which stressed abstraction, asceticism and modesty.


That was partially because Renaissance thinkers were influenced by the knowledge of the Arabs via the Crusades. They began focusing on the humanity of Christ (which, by the way, did not contradict the official position of the Roman Catholic Church), but they did not deny his divinity.

Arguably, the most left-of-center scholastic priest of the period, William of Ockham, never renounced his faith. For a time, the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated William (mostly for arguing, in contemporary terms, for a unique place for the public sphere), but that excommunication was shortly reversed.

They did not deny his divinity doctrinally, but the art effectively did.

Yeah, old subversive Ockham, the propagator of nominalism, a truly wicked teaching

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:46 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:They did not deny his divinity doctrinally, but the art effectively did.

Yeah, old subversive Ockham, the propagator of nominalism, a truly wicked teaching


How can art deny faith? That concept makes no sense to me. Some of my own poetry could be viewed, by some, as sacrilege, but I am a very religiously devout individual.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:48 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:They did not deny his divinity doctrinally, but the art effectively did.

Yeah, old subversive Ockham, the propagator of nominalism, a truly wicked teaching


How can art deny faith? That concept makes no sense to me. Some of my own poetry could be viewed, by some, as sacrilege, but I am a very religiously devout individual.

Art is expression. To say it cannot deny faith is to say expression cannot.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:55 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:Art is expression. To say it cannot deny faith is to say expression cannot.


That does not respond to my point.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:02 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Art is expression. To say it cannot deny faith is to say expression cannot.


That does not respond to my point.

You do not have a point, you asked a question.

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:17 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:You do not have a point, you asked a question.


Have you not been reading my extensive comments?
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:41 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:You do not have a point, you asked a question.


Have you not been reading my extensive comments?

Yes, sort of like, "I practice freeloving sodomy on the weekends, yet I am strict about keeping Christian morality."

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Yes, sort of like, "I practice freeloving sodomy on the weekends, yet I am strict about keeping Christian morality."


? No, I do not engage in that practice you mentioned. No, I am not a Christian.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:44 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Yes, sort of like, "I practice freeloving sodomy on the weekends, yet I am strict about keeping Christian morality."


? No, I do not engage in that practice you mentioned. No, I am not a Christian.
He is not saying you do, he is making an analogy.
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Postby The Multiversal Communist Collective » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:54 am

Kubra wrote:He is not saying you do, he is making an analogy.


Yes, but, for the record, I thought it was important that I point out I am neither a deviant nor a Christian (not that I am equating the two).
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Read about a communist Ṣūfiyy path. I love Sufism but am not a Ṣūfiyy. !﷽

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Anyone who is interested in reading up on the satirical post-Posadism of this new nation I created can take a look at this page.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:42 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Reason as paramount started in post-schism western theology, but it was not until the European Renaissance that reason became an endeavor autonomous from theology, which sparked the "Age of Reason" which culminated in a turn of reason against theology (the Enlightenment).


This undermines the Platonic roots of the theological debate about reason, which proceeds the theological conversation all together.

I think numerous Platonic dialogues make very clear his distinction between "myth" and "reason" (muthos and logos, respectively). Socrates privileges logos over muthos in positioning philosophy against rhetoric (Gorgias), common conceptions of love (Symposium), poetry (Republic), etc....something anti-Homeric and anti-Hesiodic by nature. Socrates even says he 'loves' Homer and looks forward to talking with him in the afterlife, but after reading enough of his arguments I can't help but feel he was sarcastic, because he talks about the ideal city banishing the majority of Homeric mythology because they don't line up with logos, by which he means they depict the gods as imperfect.

Capital-R Reason might not have been explicitly stated pre-schism, but it's presence as one of the defining abstractions of western thought, even to this day in various incarnations, cannot be understated. It's origins are far older than you seem to be talking about.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:17 am

On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

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I read a lot of continental philosophy,
from left-Hegelianism to post-structuralism.
Also, I'm interested in historical linguistics,
specifically of Germanic and Slavic languages.
I also read a lot of medieval epic poetry and history.

Studied: Latin, Russian
Studying: Ancient Greek (Attic)
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
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Postby Kubra » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:42 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:Reason as paramount started in post-schism western theology, but it was not until the European Renaissance that reason became an endeavor autonomous from theology, which sparked the "Age of Reason" which culminated in a turn of reason against theology (the Enlightenment).


This undermines the Platonic roots of the theological debate about reason, which proceeds the theological conversation all together.

I think numerous Platonic dialogues make very clear his distinction between "myth" and "reason" (muthos and logos, respectively). Socrates privileges logos over muthos in positioning philosophy against rhetoric (Gorgias), common conceptions of love (Symposium), poetry (Republic), etc....something anti-Homeric and anti-Hesiodic by nature. Socrates even says he 'loves' Homer and looks forward to talking with him in the afterlife, but after reading enough of his arguments I can't help but feel he was sarcastic, because he talks about the ideal city banishing the majority of Homeric mythology because they don't line up with logos, by which he means they depict the gods as imperfect.

Capital-R Reason might not have been explicitly stated pre-schism, but it's presence as one of the defining abstractions of western thought, even to this day in various incarnations, cannot be understated. It's origins are far older than you seem to be talking about.
careful now, there's debate on the socrates vs. 'socrates' debate

y'know, figuring out which is legit something socrates would say and what was just Plato using him as his dialogue character
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:45 am

The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak

Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism
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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:11 pm

Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism


Antifa cannot afford to wait.
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Postby War Gears » Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:24 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak


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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:47 pm

Crysuko wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak

Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism

Franco wasn't all that bad.
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism


Antifa cannot afford to wait.

They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism

Franco wasn't all that bad.
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Antifa cannot afford to wait.

They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.

he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:51 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Franco wasn't all that bad.

They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.

he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Your point being...?
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:59 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Your point being...?

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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:25 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.


I have never tipped over a trash can.
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Postby War Gears » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:31 pm

Crysuko wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak

Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism


The political stagnation of the Falangist Party probably played a much bigger role than providing them a martyr.
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Postby War Gears » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:32 pm

Crysuko wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Your point being...?

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But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.
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