Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[Puldania]

*Ohai Marx

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[New Emeline]

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But there's a pause between the Hai and the Mark

[Albrenia]

I'm still fine with people chewing up nazi scum in a video game about WW2, since Nazi Germany was one of the most vile forces to stain the earth in recent history.

I'm fine with it because I find it humorous; it doesn't change the fact it took 80% of the world six years to push the Reich under and they still didn't achieve a positive K/D.

They certainly were a force to be reckoned with. Impressive power, if utterly evil.

[Liriena]

I'm still fine with people chewing up nazi scum in a video game about WW2, since Nazi Germany was one of the most vile forces to stain the earth in recent history.

I'm fine with it because I find it humorous; it doesn't change the fact it took 80% of the world six years to push the Reich under and they still didn't achieve a positive K/D.

Awww, imagine this level of deperation in trying to find a way to reivindicate your failed death cult as it continues to get dunked on in every new media.

[Proctopeo]

I'm fine with it because I find it humorous; it doesn't change the fact it took 80% of the world six years to push the Reich under and they still didn't achieve a positive K/D.

Awww, imagine this level of deperation in trying to find a way to reivindicate your failed death cult as it continues to get dunked on in every new media.

Tbf people are running out of ways to do that; this same thing is why first-person shooters moved away from World War II into more modern armed conflicts. You can't do the same thing forever without it getting dull.
I'm all for gunning down Soviets, haven't done enough of that.

[Trotskylvania]

But it would not really be a lost past status quo that'd be "regressed" to, would it?

The fuck are you talking about.
A system of racism and sexism being normalized as an ideology of the state is a lost past. It should have stayed lost.

The "Offensive" shit is absolutely rooted in Feminism and Progressives and most of them being unable to handle criticism of their utter nonsense, their desire for authoritarian control, and their impulsive decision to immediately side with any brown person who has a grievance without bothering to check if "Thats offensive!" is merely a theocrat trying to demonize someone for pointing out their religion causes social problems.

Sex/Race determinign whether or not they get a say in what political matters a democracy should discuss?
Likewise, was a lost past.
Feminism normalized it again. Only women can decide if a topic is acceptable, through the feminist movement and its grip on institutions. (There's that Matriarchy again.)

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

[Mattopilos II]

The fuck are you talking about.
A system of racism and sexism being normalized as an ideology of the state is a lost past. It should have stayed lost.

The "Offensive" shit is absolutely rooted in Feminism and Progressives and most of them being unable to handle criticism of their utter nonsense, their desire for authoritarian control, and their impulsive decision to immediately side with any brown person who has a grievance without bothering to check if "Thats offensive!" is merely a theocrat trying to demonize someone for pointing out their religion causes social problems.

Sex/Race determinign whether or not they get a say in what political matters a democracy should discuss?
Likewise, was a lost past.
Feminism normalized it again. Only women can decide if a topic is acceptable, through the feminist movement and its grip on institutions. (There's that Matriarchy again.)

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Can I add an extra note of one needn't write a fucking novel for every response? It is just... gish galloping.

[Aillyria]

The fuck are you talking about.
A system of racism and sexism being normalized as an ideology of the state is a lost past. It should have stayed lost.

The "Offensive" shit is absolutely rooted in Feminism and Progressives and most of them being unable to handle criticism of their utter nonsense, their desire for authoritarian control, and their impulsive decision to immediately side with any brown person who has a grievance without bothering to check if "Thats offensive!" is merely a theocrat trying to demonize someone for pointing out their religion causes social problems.

Sex/Race determinign whether or not they get a say in what political matters a democracy should discuss?
Likewise, was a lost past.
Feminism normalized it again. Only women can decide if a topic is acceptable, through the feminist movement and its grip on institutions. (There's that Matriarchy again.)

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Yes, read a sociology journal written by the overwhelmingly feminist academia........

I really don't see how people can't see feminism for what it is; a female supremacy movement. Not even all women though, just "progressive" ones.

[Trotskylvania]

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Yes, read a sociology journal written by the overwhelmingly feminist academia........

I really don't see how people can't see feminism for what it is; a female supremacy movement. Not even all women though, just "progressive" ones.

Academia is far from perfect, but it's better than this Eternal Jew level conspiracy theory nonsense.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yes, read a sociology journal written by the overwhelmingly feminist academia........

I really don't see how people can't see feminism for what it is; a female supremacy movement. Not even all women though, just "progressive" ones.

Academia is far from perfect, but it's better than this Eternal Jew level conspiracy theory nonsense.

Feminism is one of the current sociological orthodoxies, so those arguing against it will encounter systemic bias in trying to get their opinions listened to or published in the main journals. When your peers are mostly pro-feminist, peer review will tend to screen in things with a feminist angle, and screen out things with an alternative angle on gender politics.

Research on men's issues is mostly done by groups with an open ideological slant, because the undeclared ideological slant of femalestream sociology excludes it. This is in turn now being used to prove it's just "misogynist moaning GODWIN GODWIN", circularly using esteem for academia and what is currently popular there as proof of itself.

And let's be real - feminism currently brings us patriarchy theory, "yes all men", "all potential rapists", unqualified statements about "male privilege", and joys such as the Duluth model which actively attempt to argue that offences which aren't man against woman don't really count and aren't real.

Until they do a hell of a lot of clearing up their own theoretical and activist houses, feminists are in absolutely no position to make accusations that MRAs are conspiracy theorists or guilty of dehumanizing opponents.

[Mattopilos II]

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Yes, read a sociology journal written by the overwhelmingly feminist academia........

I really don't see how people can't see feminism for what it is; a female supremacy movement. Not even all women though, just "progressive" ones.

I.e. you read some things and cherry picked them to fit your view that they want all men dead/underneath the womenfolk?

[Aillyria]

Yes, read a sociology journal written by the overwhelmingly feminist academia........

I really don't see how people can't see feminism for what it is; a female supremacy movement. Not even all women though, just "progressive" ones.

I.e. you read some things and cherry picked them to fit your view that they want all men dead/underneath the womenfolk?

It's actually terribly difficult to find anything actually good about modern feminism, tbh.....I literally can't think of a single aspect that's positive. I mean, it does produce great lolcows to match those red pill idiots.

[Bakery Hill]

LWDT IV: Everything you own in a kolkhozy to the left!

I still think "Oh Hai, Marx" is going to be hard to top.

Can someone explain why it's funny? I'm a normie.

[Mujahidah]

I still think "Oh Hai, Marx" is going to be hard to top.

Can someone explain why it's funny? I'm a normie.

Tommy Wiseau's oscar-worthy performance in The Room

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I still think "Oh Hai, Marx" is going to be hard to top.

Can someone explain why it's funny? I'm a normie.

It's a "The Room" reference.

[Ostroeuropa]

The fuck are you talking about.
A system of racism and sexism being normalized as an ideology of the state is a lost past. It should have stayed lost.

The "Offensive" shit is absolutely rooted in Feminism and Progressives and most of them being unable to handle criticism of their utter nonsense, their desire for authoritarian control, and their impulsive decision to immediately side with any brown person who has a grievance without bothering to check if "Thats offensive!" is merely a theocrat trying to demonize someone for pointing out their religion causes social problems.

Sex/Race determinign whether or not they get a say in what political matters a democracy should discuss?
Likewise, was a lost past.
Feminism normalized it again. Only women can decide if a topic is acceptable, through the feminist movement and its grip on institutions. (There's that Matriarchy again.)

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Aww. It's the conspiracy meme again.
"To call feminism a conspiracy implies a competence and clarity of purpose I don't wish to attribute to anyone involved."
Once again we see a feminist not willing or able to consider that maybe they are just wrong, and it's an indication of a worldviews veracity if they've never bothered to consider that, and a grim indication of the type of people it attracts that this widespread flaw in thinking is so common a meme among feminists.

They're not engaged with because social science is the least empirical and most ideologically biased cesspit in Academia, and this is empirically proven.

You've not provided any evidence that any of the shit that's been pointed out against feminism "Has no basis", just repeatedly asserted dogma and that's how feminist academics act too.
"There's no basis for the big bang theory!"
(Shows you the basis)
"There's no basis for the big bang theory!"
(Shows you more)
"The universe is a constant state! Academia says so and here's our rationalizations for why that's the case!"

[Mujahidah]

They're not engaged with because social science is the least empirical and most ideologically biased cesspit in Academia, and this is empirically proven.

Come on. I have my own misgivings about at least some of 'feminism' (which I would say is a broader label than you admit), but you cannot empirically believe something that is inherently an opinion. Quit being so disingenuous.

[Ostroeuropa]

They're not engaged with because social science is the least empirical and most ideologically biased cesspit in Academia, and this is empirically proven.

Come on. I have my own misgivings about at least some of 'feminism' (which I would say is a broader label than you admit), but you cannot empirically believe something that is inherently an opinion. Quit being so disingenuous.

No mate, it's proven by a study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5502066/

best financed, but also most biased and least objective of all disciplines within the humanities and social sciences.

It was characterized by a complex mix of different epistemological and philosophical standpoints, issues of objectivity, subjectivity, and bias, and whether science should be disinterested or have an activist agenda (Brown 2001; Gross and Levitt 1994; Nelkin 1996). Much of these deviations from mainstream science are subsumed under the label “feminist epistemology”

I.E, the same criticism i'm giving.
"You don't actually engage with reality, just a bunch of ideological frameworks, and those frameworks aren't actually related to empirical evidence."

[Mujahidah]

Come on. I have my own misgivings about at least some of 'feminism' (which I would say is a broader label than you admit), but you cannot empirically believe something that is inherently an opinion. Quit being so disingenuous.

No mate, it's proven by a study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5502066/

best financed, but also most biased and least objective of all disciplines within the humanities and social sciences.

1 study, 36 datapoints. Hardly empirical proof. That wouldn't stand up as the definitive answer in any field.

[Taihei Tengoku]

more empirical than yours

[Jackania yugo]

Why do you people hate centrism?

[Liriena]

Why do you people hate centrism?

Well, this is a left-wing thread, meaning that at least the majority of the people here see left-wing politics as more conducive to a better society than right-wing or centrist politics.

[Liriena]

Take the tinfoil hat off, get off the internet, and read a fucking sociology journal.

Your conspiracy theories are not being supressed. They're not being engaged with by the academia because there's literally no basis for them. You just go keyboard warrior anytime someone says a whiff of anything female related. I'm sure this is all because you're perfectly rational, and not at all projecting. Get real.

Aww. It's the conspiracy meme again.
"To call feminism a conspiracy implies a competence and clarity of purpose I don't wish to attribute to anyone involved."
Once again we see a feminist not willing or able to consider that maybe they are just wrong, and it's an indication of a worldviews veracity if they've never bothered to consider that, and a grim indication of the type of people it attracts that this widespread flaw in thinking is so common a meme among feminists.

Does that mean you yourself do at least sometimes consider that you could be just plain wrong? 'cause it doesn't look like it.

[Jackania yugo]

So...opinions on the Italian elections?

[Liriena]

So...opinions on the Italian elections?

Italy needs its own Corbyn.

Here's hoping the M5S won't give the right-wing coalition a path to establishing a government.