Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Being morally opposed to nationalism is fairly anti-Marxist.

And you say that as a non-Marxist and a non-communist talking to a guy who has been a Marxist and a communist since 1968?

Follow your own bliss, but please lay off the trolling.

[Northern Davincia]

Being morally opposed to nationalism is fairly anti-Marxist.

And you say that as a non-Marxist and a non-communist talking to a guy who has been a Marxist and a communist since 1968?

Follow your own bliss, but please lay off the trolling.

It's fallacious to state that no one can criticize your views simply by virtue of not believing in said views, not to mention...

[Democratic Communist Federation]

It's fallacious to state that no one can criticize your views simply by virtue of not believing in said views, not to mention...

No, my point was that he was trolling. As I said, he should follow his own bliss.

[New Emeline]

To be a communist internationalist, one cannot show favorites. Either all nations have to go, or the present dysfunctional, contradictory capitalist system will continue.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Isn't that statement in and of itself an absolute?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Isn't that statement in and of itself an absolute?

*Those who deal in absolutes are generally sith.*

[New Emeline]

Isn't that statement in and of itself an absolute?

*Those who deal in absolutes are generally sith.*

Now that I can get behind

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

And what kind of person deals in ad hominem attacks?

[Cekoviu]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

Isn't that statement in and of itself an absolute?

That just means the person who said it is a Sith.

[Proctopeo]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

And what kind of person deals in ad hominem attacks?

What kind of person deals in non-sequiturs? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

What kind of person deals in non-sequiturs? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

Is that really what you got out of my question?

[Proctopeo]

What kind of person deals in non-sequiturs? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

Is that really what you got out of my question?

Yes. Yes it is.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

And what kind of person deals in ad hominem attacks?

It's a colourful way of saying that you're too black and white in your thinking, not an ad hominem attack.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

It's a colourful way of saying that you're too black and white in your thinking, not an ad hominem attack.

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

It's a colourful way of saying that you're too black and white in your thinking, not an ad hominem attack.

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

"Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?" It's a meme! "Only a sith deals in absolutes," is a meme. I'm not actually saying that you are a sith lord.

"My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her." Right, but I think your attitude of "all nations gotta go equally, or Capitalism will still haunt the world." Is unattainable, oversimplistic, and exstremist.

"Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics." "You call yourself a Socialist because you dislike private property? Bah, have you even read Rosa Lukemburg's seven theories of social liberation? What are you, an anti-intellectual left-wing populist?" Let the gatekeeping commence!

[The Parkus Empire]

It's a colourful way of saying that you're too black and white in your thinking, not an ad hominem attack.

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

[New Emeline]

It's a colourful way of saying that you're too black and white in your thinking, not an ad hominem attack.

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

"Sith lord", not "sick in the head"

[Cekoviu]

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

Socialism is open only to the bourgeoisie and academics, it is not a movement of the proletariat.

[MERIZoC]

It's also wrong. Most communist internationalists are anti-imperialist, which means embracing liberatory nationalism.

Wrong is a moral judgment, not an empirical statement. My moral code does not include nationalism, libertatory or otherwise. You are free to disagree, but it won't change my moral convictions.

Then your ideology is a dead end. From Cuba to Kurdistan, the most successful socialist movements have been those who have, at least in part, embraced anti-imperialism and emancipatory nationalism.

[Victoriala II]

if it frees you, it is.

[The Parkus Empire]

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

Socialism is open only to the bourgeoisie and academics, it is not a movement of the proletariat.

That explains why I feel left out and am stuck with a an intellectually impoverished political philosophy

[MERIZoC]

Sick in the head means I engage in black-and-white thinking?

No. My opposition to nationalism comes from Rosa Luxemburg, perhaps the most fervent opponent of nationalism among the early communists. I am a Luxemburgist and, in many respects, I think like her.

Many people in this thread claim to be communists or socialists. Yet, they don't even know the basics.

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

How are these exclusive in any way? If Indian peasants can read Marx, Lenin, and Mao, there's no reason anyone else can't.

[The Parkus Empire]

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

How are these exclusive in any way? If Indian peasants can read Marx, Lenin, and Mao, there's no reason anyone else can't.

What is the literacy rate of literal peasants?

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

I was just attacked in this thread for not being a real Marxist (because I opposed nationalism). Aren't you blaming the victim? It is not my responsibility to read the classics to members of this thread.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

"Sith lord", not "sick in the head"

Ah, I see. I do not follow the Star Wars franchise.

[The Parkus Empire]

Do you have to read a lot of theory to be a socialist, or is it open to the humble prole?

I was just attacked in this thread for not being a real Marxist (because I opposed nationalism). Aren't you blaming the victim? It is not my responsibility to read the classics to members of this thread.

I never suggested such