Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[The Arian nation]

offering criticism of the current governing ideologies.

But the current governing ideology is rightist atleast in the US. So do you expect a change in youtube? To be more anti right and less anti left?

[Sanctissima]

Eh, it's worth noting that the latter two have... some seriously deep-seated rejection issues.

To be fair, some of their material is decent enough, but a lot of it is heavily biased trash. I remember one video by BPS wherein he basically blames the near-extermination of North American Aboriginals on one Vinlandic settler woman, which is... yeah, ahistorical as fuck.

Then again, a lot of the YouTube Left is irredeemable garbage, like Vox, so to each their own.

Yeah, that was one of the videos I vehemently disagreed with him on, the other was his video "How Women Destroy Civilizations". I agree with most of his material otherwise tnough.

Yeah, that video was garbage as well, especially considering how historically speaking, women have tended to be quite conservative. Small-c conservative mind you, but still, painting an entire gender as being inherently liberal and prone to flights of fancy is just... beyond ridiculous.

But yeah, overall the majority of his content is fairly decent, but like Sargon, he does seem to have some pretty bizarre views on a few niche topics, especially whenever women are brought up.

[Aillyria]

offering criticism of the current governing ideologies.

But the current governing ideology is rightist atleast in the US. So do you expect a change in youtube? To be more anti right and less anti left?

The skeptics are just as anti alt-right as anti-regressive, but like Ostro said, they're focusing more on the regressives because they are the ones seizing control of the media and hijacking the academia (i.e they are the greater threat atm.)

[Cekoviu]

The people who make content on youtube aren't anti-left, actually I think the majority are liberals. The comments seem to indicate a significant number of viewers are rabidly anti-left, but bots make it seem worse than it is which is why liberal's & centrists still dominate content creation.

A lot of the popular "anti-SJW" content creators are left of center economically, but often hold rightish social or national security stances, and may pander to their audiences by trying to seem further to the right than they really are. And sometimes, they try to make themselves look like they're on the left by using now disingenuous labels like "classical liberal", or trying to seem at least moderate through dog-whistles like "egalitarian" and "race realist" for MRA and racialist respectively. I would note that everybody who uses the label egalitarian is necessarily trying to hide their affiliation with MRAs, and sometimes they legitimately don't identify as either an MRA or a feminist. Just seems much more common to use it as a dog whistle.

[Cekoviu]

But the current governing ideology is rightist atleast in the US. So do you expect a change in youtube? To be more anti right and less anti left?

The skeptics are just as anti alt-right as anti-regressive, but like Ostro said, they're focusing more on the regressives because they are the ones seizing control of the media and hijacking the academia (i.e they are the greater threat atm.)

Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are now regressive leftists. Huh. And NPR, apparently.
Anti-"regressives" flirt far too much with the alt-right for me to reasonably consider the notion that they hate it just as much as SJWs.

[Jackania yugo]

The people who make content on youtube aren't anti-left, actually I think the majority are liberals. The comments seem to indicate a significant number of viewers are rabidly anti-left, but bots make it seem worse than it is which is why liberal's & centrists still dominate content creation.

A lot of the popular "anti-SJW" content creators are left of center economically, but often hold rightish social or national security stances, and may pander to their audiences by trying to seem further to the right than they really are. And sometimes, they try to make themselves look like they're on the left by using now disingenuous labels like "classical liberal", or trying to seem at least moderate through dog-whistles like "egalitarian" and "race realist" for MRA and racialist respectively. I would note that everybody who uses the label egalitarian is necessarily trying to hide their affiliation with MRAs, and sometimes they legitimately don't identify as either an MRA or a feminist. Just seems much more common to use it as a dog whistle.

I'm an actually egalitarian. I want everyone to stop arguing and see each as equal (in a race/gender/sexuality way).

What do you people think of centrism?

[Cekoviu]

A lot of the popular "anti-SJW" content creators are left of center economically, but often hold rightish social or national security stances, and may pander to their audiences by trying to seem further to the right than they really are. And sometimes, they try to make themselves look like they're on the left by using now disingenuous labels like "classical liberal", or trying to seem at least moderate through dog-whistles like "egalitarian" and "race realist" for MRA and racialist respectively. I would note that everybody who uses the label egalitarian is necessarily trying to hide their affiliation with MRAs, and sometimes they legitimately don't identify as either an MRA or a feminist. Just seems much more common to use it as a dog whistle.

I'm an actually egalitarian. I want everyone to stop arguing and see each as equal (in a race/gender/sexuality way).

What do you people think of centrism?

Centrism is boring and doesn't get anything done. Radical centrism doesn't have those problems, but it's problematic in other ways.

[The Grene Knyght]

What do you people think of centrism?

its yucky and I don't like it

[Victoriala II]

calling yourself a centrist automatically invalidates your participation in anything that affects you

[Jackania yugo]

I'm an actually egalitarian. I want everyone to stop arguing and see each as equal (in a race/gender/sexuality way).

What do you people think of centrism?

Centrism is boring and doesn't get anything done. Radical centrism doesn't have those problems, but it's problematic in other ways.

[Cekoviu]

calling yourself a centrist automatically invalidates your participation in anything that affects you

What do you people think of centrism?

its yucky and I don't like it

Ah, I forgot that centrism is not considered a serious topic. I should've memed in my response at least a bit.

[Cekoviu]

Centrism is boring and doesn't get anything done. Radical centrism doesn't have those problems, but it's problematic in other ways.

It's yucky
Better?

[Exsorcial]

In response to the poll, I follow the principles of KimIlSungism also known as Juche.

[Cekoviu]

In response to the poll, I follow the principles of KimIlSungism also known as Juche.

excuse me sir but this is the LEFTIST discussion threat now pls leave

[Jackania yugo]

It's yucky
Better?

Please be serious. I think it might help us stop the constant left-right seesaw of chaos.

[The Arian nation]

In response to the poll, I follow the principles of KimIlSungism also known as Juche.

excuse me sir but this is the LEFTIST discussion threat now pls leave

Unfortunately juche is atleast economicly left.

[Cekoviu]

It's yucky
Better?

Please be serious. I think it might help us stop the constant left-right seesaw of chaos.

No, it'll just make everybody hate the government. Look at Canada: the leftists hate Trudeau, the rightists hate Trudeau, and the only people who actually like him are the weird subset of centrists who want an imperialist but isolationist, capitalist but socialist, and new-fangled but old-fashioned leader.

[Cekoviu]

excuse me sir but this is the LEFTIST discussion threat now pls leave

Unfortunately juche is atleast economicly left.

Psh, who cares about economics?

[Aillyria]

The skeptics are just as anti alt-right as anti-regressive, but like Ostro said, they're focusing more on the regressives because they are the ones seizing control of the media and hijacking the academia (i.e they are the greater threat atm.)

Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are now regressive leftists. Huh. And NPR, apparently.
Anti-"regressives" flirt far too much with the alt-right for me to reasonably consider the notion that they hate it just as much as SJWs.

CNN, MSNBC, and media outlets of their ilk are regressive or at least sympathetic. Tbh, feminism has created this backlash on their own through their sexism and sympathizing for groups who'd love to kill us all (Islamists), forcing people who'd otherwise oppose eachother to move closer.

The people who make content on youtube aren't anti-left, actually I think the majority are liberals. The comments seem to indicate a significant number of viewers are rabidly anti-left, but bots make it seem worse than it is which is why liberal's & centrists still dominate content creation.

A lot of the popular "anti-SJW" content creators are left of center economically, but often hold rightish social or national security stances, and may pander to their audiences by trying to seem further to the right than they really are. And sometimes, they try to make themselves look like they're on the left by using now disingenuous labels like "classical liberal", or trying to seem at least moderate through dog-whistles like "egalitarian" and "race realist" for MRA and racialist respectively. I would note that everybody who uses the label egalitarian is necessarily trying to hide their affiliation with MRAs, and sometimes they legitimately don't identify as either an MRA or a feminist. Just seems much more common to use it as a dog whistle.

So now being egalitarian is being an MRA? That's quite telling of the feminist mindset right there! You don't want women to have superior rights to men? You're a misogynist!!!

Look, the regressives are the reason why no one wants to identify with the left, why many of the non-SJW leftists and socialists are desociating themselves from the "leftist" label (like I've done myself). They've turned the left into a joke, a very scary, very totalitarian joke.

[Jackania yugo]

Please be serious. I think it might help us stop the constant left-right seesaw of chaos.

No, it'll just make everybody hate the government. Look at Canada: the leftists hate Trudeau, the rightists hate Trudeau, and the only people who actually like him are the weird subset of centrists who want an imperialist but isolationist, capitalist but socialist, and new-fangled but old-fashioned leader.

I thought Trudeau was an SJW shill?

So, what do you think is the best type of government?

[The Arian nation]

Unfortunately juche is atleast economicly left.

Psh, who cares about economics?

I'm sorry this is irelevant but you just accidentally qouted the supreme leader of Iran

[Cekoviu]

Rush Limbaugh and Fox News are now regressive leftists. Huh. And NPR, apparently.
Anti-"regressives" flirt far too much with the alt-right for me to reasonably consider the notion that they hate it just as much as SJWs.

CNN, MSNBC, and media outlets of their ilk are regressive or at least sympathetic. Tbh, feminism has created this backlash on their own through their sexism and sympathizing for groups who'd love to kill us all (Islamists), forcing people who'd otherwise oppose eachother to move closer.

nice meem friendo :^)

So now being egalitarian is being an MRA? That's quite telling of the feminist mindset right there! You don't want women to have superior rights to men? You're a misogynist!!!

Look, the regressives are the reason why no one wants to identify with the left, why many of the non-SJW leftists and socialists are desociating themselves from the "leftist" label (like I've done myself). They've turned the left into a joke, a very scary, very totalitarian joke.

If you want to willingly misinterpret my posts so you can start fights, go ahead, but i'm not falling for your bait, and I'm not interested in wasting my time arguing more about how ebil feminists are.

[Cekoviu]

No, it'll just make everybody hate the government. Look at Canada: the leftists hate Trudeau, the rightists hate Trudeau, and the only people who actually like him are the weird subset of centrists who want an imperialist but isolationist, capitalist but socialist, and new-fangled but old-fashioned leader.

I thought Trudeau was an SJW shill?

If all you watch is people like Sargon, then that's the kind of mindset you're going to have. He's socially progressive and nominally pro-immigration, which obviously makes him an evil SJW, but that doesn't disqualify him from being a centrist. Same with center-right Angela Merkel.

So, what do you think is the best type of government?

Sweden.

[Gospel Power]

Social Theocracy for me:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gos ... /id=972503

[Cekoviu]

Social Theocracy for me:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gos ... /id=972503

Wut?