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What type of leftist are you?

Left-leaning Centrist
105
13%
Left/Social Liberal
74
9%
Social Democrat
115
14%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Marxist Communist
139
17%
Social Anarchist
50
6%
Individualist Anarchist
38
5%
Revolutionary Syndicalist
39
5%
Communalist
27
3%
Other (Please Post)
71
9%
 
Total votes : 797

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:04 am

Trotskylvania wrote:Democracy is a decision-making tool, not a principle.

Pretty much.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:04 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Anarchy and nationalism seem to be the thing all the cool kids are into nowadays. As if they haven't already been proven to be as shit as Communism or Theocracy already.

I'm all of the above.

I'm none of the above, except cool kid.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:11 am

Bhikkustan wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
How about theocratic communism?

Yes pls.


>mfw when the red pill just contains more opium
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:16 am

Albrenia wrote:Tony Abbott isn't quite 'gone', although he did lose the top job (he looks to be trying to make moves to come back though)

Australian Politics in a Nutshell

2007: Kevin Rudd storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Labor Party lead him to be replaced by Julia Gillard.
2010: Despite an initial poll boost Juila Gillard finds herself at the helm of a still divided Labor Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The election results in Labor losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2013: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for Labor, Kevin Rudd is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. The Liberals win decisively.

2013: Tony Abbott storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Liberal Party lead him to be replaced by Malcolm Turnbull.
2016: Despite an initial poll boost Malcolm Turnbull finds himself at the helm of a still divided Liberal Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The elections results in the Liberals losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2019: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for the Liberals, Tony Abbott is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. Labor wins decisively.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:18 am

MERIZoC wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm all of the above.

I'm none of the above, except cool kid.

I'm practically a Soundcloud rapper dude.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:20 am

Bhikkustan wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
How about theocratic communism?

Yes pls.

"The only people I want to be stoned are adulterers."
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:48 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Tony Abbott isn't quite 'gone', although he did lose the top job (he looks to be trying to make moves to come back though)

Australian Politics in a Nutshell

2007: Kevin Rudd storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Labor Party lead him to be replaced by Julia Gillard.
2010: Despite an initial poll boost Juila Gillard finds herself at the helm of a still divided Labor Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The election results in Labor losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2013: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for Labor, Kevin Rudd is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. The Liberals win decisively.

2013: Tony Abbott storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Liberal Party lead him to be replaced by Malcolm Turnbull.
2016: Despite an initial poll boost Malcolm Turnbull finds himself at the helm of a still divided Liberal Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The elections results in the Liberals losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2019: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for the Liberals, Tony Abbott is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. Labor wins decisively.


I would fucking love if Tony Abbott was to return and then lose decisively. Thank you for this pleasant fortune telling.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:49 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Anarchy and nationalism seem to be the thing all the cool kids are into nowadays. As if they haven't already been proven to be as shit as Communism or Theocracy already.

I'm all of the above.


Wait, you're a Theocrat AND a Communist?

How is that even possible?

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:50 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Tony Abbott isn't quite 'gone', although he did lose the top job (he looks to be trying to make moves to come back though)

Australian Politics in a Nutshell

2007: Kevin Rudd storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Labor Party lead him to be replaced by Julia Gillard.
2010: Despite an initial poll boost Juila Gillard finds herself at the helm of a still divided Labor Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The election results in Labor losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2013: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for Labor, Kevin Rudd is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. The Liberals win decisively.

2013: Tony Abbott storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Liberal Party lead him to be replaced by Malcolm Turnbull.
2016: Despite an initial poll boost Malcolm Turnbull finds himself at the helm of a still divided Liberal Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The elections results in the Liberals losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2019: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for the Liberals, Tony Abbott is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. Labor wins decisively.


>tfw I don't know what the fuck is going on with Australian politics
I should really watch parliament more

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:02 am

Albrenia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Australian Politics in a Nutshell

2007: Kevin Rudd storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Labor Party lead him to be replaced by Julia Gillard.
2010: Despite an initial poll boost Juila Gillard finds herself at the helm of a still divided Labor Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The election results in Labor losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2013: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for Labor, Kevin Rudd is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. The Liberals win decisively.

2013: Tony Abbott storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Liberal Party lead him to be replaced by Malcolm Turnbull.
2016: Despite an initial poll boost Malcolm Turnbull finds himself at the helm of a still divided Liberal Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The elections results in the Liberals losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2019: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for the Liberals, Tony Abbott is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. Labor wins decisively.


I would fucking love if Tony Abbott was to return and then lose decisively. Thank you for this pleasant fortune telling.

Heed my prophecy.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:03 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Australian Politics in a Nutshell

2007: Kevin Rudd storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Labor Party lead him to be replaced by Julia Gillard.
2010: Despite an initial poll boost Juila Gillard finds herself at the helm of a still divided Labor Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The election results in Labor losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2013: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for Labor, Kevin Rudd is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. The Liberals win decisively.

2013: Tony Abbott storms into power, after performing strongly in the first part of his term, an effective opposition and infighting in the Liberal Party lead him to be replaced by Malcolm Turnbull.
2016: Despite an initial poll boost Malcolm Turnbull finds himself at the helm of a still divided Liberal Party and with a further emboldened opposition. The elections results in the Liberals losing seats and barely clinging on to power.
2019: Continually losing in the polls and with an electoral disaster brewing for the Liberals, Tony Abbott is brought back to stem the flood and bolster the party's chances, particularly in Queensland. Labor wins decisively.


>tfw I don't know what the fuck is going on with Australian politics
I should really watch parliament more

It's just 2007-2013 with the jerseys switched over.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:03 am

Albrenia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm all of the above.


Wait, you're a Theocrat AND a Communist?

How is that even possible?

Ask that Bhikku guy, he manages it apparently.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:06 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Wait, you're a Theocrat AND a Communist?

How is that even possible?

Ask that Bhikku guy, he manages it apparently.


Well, it's novel, I'll give you that.

Stuffing four failed government systems together and seeing if it works.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:07 am

Albrenia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Ask that Bhikku guy, he manages it apparently.


Well, it's novel, I'll give you that.

Stuffing four failed government systems together and seeing if it works.

I'll be honest, I'm not a theocrat. I only use three of the four.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:07 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Well, it's novel, I'll give you that.

Stuffing four failed government systems together and seeing if it works.

I'll be honest, I'm not a theocrat. I only use three of the four.


Less novel, but still novel.

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Postby Alsheb » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:40 am

Bhikkustan wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
How about theocratic communism?

Yes pls.

:hug:
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Postby Alsheb » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:42 am

Albrenia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm all of the above.


Wait, you're a Theocrat AND a Communist?

How is that even possible?


I don't think he is. Bhikkustan and me are though.
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Freedom is nothing but a vain phantom when one class of men can starve another with impunity. Equality is nothing but a vain phantom when the rich, through monopoly, exercise the right of life or death over their like.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:46 am

This thread has been nationalized. Every post must be made with one shitpost ration.
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Postby Albrenia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:22 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:This thread has been nationalized. Every post must be made with one shitpost ration.


I suppose that mean's I'll be publicly executed for treason... again.

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Postby Mattopilos II » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:45 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Bhikkustan wrote:Yes pls.


>mfw when the red pill just contains more opium


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Postby Herador » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:47 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:This thread has been nationalized. Every post must be made with one shitpost ration.

I'll wait in line for my shitposts like a good Comrade.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:46 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:I'm none of the above, except cool kid.

I'm practically a Soundcloud rapper dude.


Get out.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:50 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm practically a Soundcloud rapper dude.


Get out.

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Postby War Gears » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:56 am

Alsheb wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Wait, you're a Theocrat AND a Communist?

How is that even possible?


I don't think he is. Bhikkustan and me are though.


How is theocracy reconciled with dialectical materialism and statelessness?
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:59 am

War Gears wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
I don't think he is. Bhikkustan and me are though.


How is theocracy reconciled with dialectical materialism and statelessness?

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