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by Philjia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:05 pm
Nemesis the Warlock wrote:I am the Nemesis, I am the Warlock, I am the shape of things to come, the Lord of the Flies, holder of the Sword Sinister, the Death Bringer, I am the one who waits on the edge of your dreams, I am all these things and many more
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:05 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Aillyria wrote:Says the person whose ideology lead to the coining of the term "champagne socialist" due to their underhandedness. Democratic Socialism is nothing more than a sham, nothing more than people using socialist theory to draw in the votes but too chickenshit to stir the pot or if it came to it stick a bayonet in the gut of a bourgeois pig.
We aren't "chickenshit". We just aren't murderous asshats.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
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Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by West Leas Oros » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:05 pm
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Aillyria wrote:Why not just justice? What makes "social" justice different?
Perhaps because I am a sociologist, and I teach two or three sections of Social Problems each semester. The issue of social justice always weighs heavily on my mind.Besides, I'm not twisting anything, you literally said the world would be better if white people were enslaved and that feminist supremacy was justified because "karma".
You accused me of asking for a vendetta. Despite the fact that I already clarified, this morning, that I was referring to Roy Bhaskar's concept of karma, you began to accuse me of asking for a vendetta once again.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:07 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:11 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Aillyria wrote:Says the person whose ideology lead to the coining of the term "champagne socialist" due to their underhandedness. Democratic Socialism is nothing more than a sham, nothing more than people using socialist theory to draw in the votes but too chickenshit to stir the pot or if it came to it stick a bayonet in the gut of a bourgeois pig.
We aren't "chickenshit". We just aren't murderous asshats.
by Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:13 pm
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by Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:14 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:You are a disgrace to revolutionary socialism. You're a disgrace to Jacobinism as well
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by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:17 pm
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:18 pm
West Leas Oros wrote:Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Perhaps because I am a sociologist, and I teach two or three sections of Social Problems each semester. The issue of social justice always weighs heavily on my mind.
You accused me of asking for a vendetta. Despite the fact that I already clarified, this morning, that I was referring to Roy Bhaskar's concept of karma, you began to accuse me of asking for a vendetta once again.
Why are you debating this? Aillyria is a fierce tankie who could justify the Khmer Rouge using a combination of strawman logic and personal rhetoric.
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:20 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Next you'll be saying we should use discussion instead of violence to effect change
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by Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:23 pm
Aillyria wrote:West Leas Oros wrote:We aren't "chickenshit". We just aren't murderous asshats.
A capitalist system with capitalist laws, ruled by the bourgeoisie cannot be reformed into a socialist system. Revolution, violence, as in killing the bourgeoisie, is the singular, as only way to destroy capitalism and wipe the slate clean for socialism. Democratic socialism is a nice idea, but not realistic, parliamentarian reform won't create socialism.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:23 pm
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:23 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Philjia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:24 pm
Aillyria wrote:
Wow....tankie? Really? I'm not even a Stalinist......
We'll never have socialism with such pacifism. Sorry to tell you, but societies don't change their fundamental paradigms without people dieing. Social revolution requires bloodshed, sorry, that's the plain truth.
Nemesis the Warlock wrote:I am the Nemesis, I am the Warlock, I am the shape of things to come, the Lord of the Flies, holder of the Sword Sinister, the Death Bringer, I am the one who waits on the edge of your dreams, I am all these things and many more
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:28 pm
Philjia wrote:Aillyria wrote:Wow....tankie? Really? I'm not even a Stalinist......
We'll never have socialism with such pacifism. Sorry to tell you, but societies don't change their fundamental paradigms without people dieing. Social revolution requires bloodshed, sorry, that's the plain truth.
What makes revolution so desirable? Why risk the integrity of the state you'll need to implement your policies?
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:30 pm
Aillyria wrote:We'll never have socialism with such pacifism. Sorry to tell you, but societies don't change their fundamental paradigms without people dieing. Social revolution requires bloodshed, sorry, that's the plain truth.
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by Cekoviu » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:34 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:Aillyria wrote:A capitalist system with capitalist laws, ruled by the bourgeoisie cannot be reformed into a socialist system. Revolution, violence, as in killing the bourgeoisie, is the singular, as only way to destroy capitalism and wipe the slate clean for socialism. Democratic socialism is a nice idea, but not realistic, parliamentarian reform won't create socialism.
I think I'll stick with the people who won't murder me.
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:40 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by West Leas Oros » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:42 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:43 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:45 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by West Leas Oros » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:45 pm
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Oros, no. Please. You were the chosen one. You were meant to debunk the tankies, not join them. Bring balance to the left, not leave it in darkness.
WLO Public News: Protest turns violent as Orosian Anarchists burn building. 2 found dead, 8 injured. Investigation continues.
by Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:52 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:If RWDT were Romans, who would they be?
......
Aillyria would be Claudius. Temper + unwillingness to suffer fools + supporter of the P E O P L E + traditional legalist
West Oros wrote:GOD DAMMIT! I thought you wouldn't be here.
Well you aren't a real socialist. Just a sociopath disguised as one.
Not to mention that this thread split off from LWDT, so I assumed you would think this thread was a "revisionist hellhole".
by Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:01 pm
Aillyria wrote:Nothing to hate really, it is what it is. I'll take the day I can disembowel the satanic bourgeois as a sign of progress and advent of the death of their rule.
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