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What type of leftist are you?

Left-leaning Centrist
105
13%
Left/Social Liberal
74
9%
Social Democrat
115
14%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Marxist Communist
139
17%
Social Anarchist
50
6%
Individualist Anarchist
38
5%
Revolutionary Syndicalist
39
5%
Communalist
27
3%
Other (Please Post)
71
9%
 
Total votes : 797

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:15 pm

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Democratic Communist Federation wrote:Honestly, it appears to me that terms like feminist, SJW, and regressive left are pretty much devoid of meaning in most postings. They are really just shorthand ways for abbreviating everything I don't like.

If people who hate SJWs would replace the word "SJW" with what they think SJWs stand up for, then a lot of arguments would be avoided.

It stands for someone who is a social justice fanatic
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:18 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Sunstruck wrote:If people who hate SJWs would replace the word "SJW" with what they think SJWs stand up for, then a lot of arguments would be avoided.

It stands for someone who is a social justice fanatic

Obviously.
But that's extremely generalized and it's used to describe a rather large group of people that may not have much in common. The term "social justice fanatic" itself is no better.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:20 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Jackania yugo wrote:so...err...what are the problems with the world and how do we fix them?


Laissez-faire capitalism, internationalism, our growing inability to debate with each other civily in a new age of extremes, and the fact that ice cream still makes us fat.

We fix them through a well-reasoned national program of reform, a commitment to freedom of speech, and eventually giving in and buying bigger trousers.

Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.
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Postby Painisia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:21 pm

What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?
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Postby Kubra » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:21 pm

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?
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Postby The Arian nation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:21 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Laissez-faire capitalism, internationalism, our growing inability to debate with each other civily in a new age of extremes, and the fact that ice cream still makes us fat.

We fix them through a well-reasoned national program of reform, a commitment to freedom of speech, and eventually giving in and buying bigger trousers.

Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.

Why on earth would it be the solution?
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:22 pm

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

I consider myself to be on the left...
It's normal? It should be legal everywhere. Unless it's rape or was released/taken without permission.
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Laissez-faire capitalism, internationalism, our growing inability to debate with each other civily in a new age of extremes, and the fact that ice cream still makes us fat.

We fix them through a well-reasoned national program of reform, a commitment to freedom of speech, and eventually giving in and buying bigger trousers.

Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.

Why?
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Postby Aellex » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:24 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.

Replace "laissez-faire capitalism" with "indiscriminate bombing of population centers" and I would agree with you.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:25 pm

The arian nation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.

Why on earth would it be the solution?

The freer the markets, the freer the people.
Sunstruck wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Laissez-faire capitalism is the solution, not the problem.

Why?

Because state intervention is a straight path to corruption, inefficiency, and tyranny.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:26 pm

Sunstruck wrote:
Aillyria wrote:I'm a bit older than the majority of the forum, so I'm not all that up to speed on new memes.


If that were true I'd be calling people like Richard Spencer an SJW or regressive too. I despise both the alt-right and regressive left.

"Checkmate, atheists!" is a meme where someone talking about something completely irrelevant to religion ends it with "checkmate, atheists!" as a joke. As an atheist I find it funny, some don't.

The idea of that made me chuckle, that's pretty funny.

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

I hate it, should be illegal.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:27 pm

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

Obviously it should be legal.
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Postby The Arian nation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:28 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The arian nation wrote:Why on earth would it be the solution?

The freer the markets, the freer the people.
Sunstruck wrote:Why?

Because state intervention is a straight path to corruption, inefficiency, and tyranny.

I want to keep an open mind who knows i may even turn capitalist so can you please explain further
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
The arian nation wrote:Why on earth would it be the solution?

The freer the markets, the freer the people.
Sunstruck wrote:Why?

Because state intervention is a straight path to corruption, inefficiency, and tyranny.

Could say the same about private corporations.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:36 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:3. Don't see why you're trying to pander to my apparent anti-bourgeoisie thoughts, then.
4. >last time
Don't remember you ever saying that before, but eh. Bad word choice either way.
5. Man, you really need to get up to date with meme culture.

I'm a bit older than the majority of the forum, so I'm not all that up to speed on new memes.

Cekoviu wrote:Feminist at least has some meaning, but otherwise true.

If that were true I'd be calling people like Richard Spencer an SJW or regressive too. I despise both the alt-right and regressive left.

Okay, let me revise that: they lack meaning except to refer to people one doesn't like that have social views to the left of them.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:37 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Sunstruck wrote:"Checkmate, atheists!" is a meme where someone talking about something completely irrelevant to religion ends it with "checkmate, atheists!" as a joke. As an atheist I find it funny, some don't.

The idea of that made me chuckle, that's pretty funny.

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

I hate it, should be illegal.


There's some evidence access to pornography lowers incidence of rapes.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:38 pm

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

should be produced exclusively by the government to prevent degenerate porn like furries
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:39 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

should be produced exclusively by the government to prevent degenerate porn like furries

:meh: :roll:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Aillyria wrote:The idea of that made me chuckle, that's pretty funny.


I hate it, should be illegal.


There's some evidence access to pornography lowers incidence of rapes.

Sounds believable, what's the evidence? (not being sarcastic)
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Postby The Arian nation » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:39 pm

Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

The freer the better
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:40 pm

Sunstruck wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:should be produced exclusively by the government to prevent degenerate porn like furries

:meh: :roll:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
There's some evidence access to pornography lowers incidence of rapes.

Sounds believable, what's the evidence? (not being sarcastic)


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/al ... al-assault

Personally i'm skeptical, since it also coincides with the introduction of abortion.
Unwanted children are more likely to experience violent childhoods, and violent childhoods are the thing most rapists (80%, both male and female) have in common, the second being parents who ignore them when they aren't beating them.

(Incidentally, this is an example of feminism barking up the wrong tree and preventing effective solutions in order to yet again waffle about how its masculinity doing it, based on assertions sourced in prejudice rather than analysis of reality. To prevent rape, we should do more to tackle violence against children, but the primary perpetrators there are women, so that doesn't give them their fix.)

But I still wouldn't reverse the availability of porn, just in case.
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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:41 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Sunstruck wrote: :meh: :roll:

Sounds believable, what's the evidence? (not being sarcastic)


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/al ... al-assault

Thanks
I'll read that when I'm not using a school laptop
edit: what the hell does porn have to do with abortion? I'm more skeptical about that article now.
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Postby Aillyria » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:42 pm

Pilarcraft wrote:
Painisia wrote:What are people on the Left`s stance on pornography?

Obviously it should be legal.

Absolutely not.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:43 pm

The arian nation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The freer the markets, the freer the people.

Because state intervention is a straight path to corruption, inefficiency, and tyranny.

I want to keep an open mind who knows i may even turn capitalist so can you please explain further

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Postby Sunstruck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:43 pm

Aillyria wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:Obviously it should be legal.

Absolutely not.

Are you only saying this because of your religious beliefs?
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:43 pm

The arian nation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:The freer the markets, the freer the people.

Because state intervention is a straight path to corruption, inefficiency, and tyranny.

I want to keep an open mind who knows i may even turn capitalist so can you please explain further

I used to be a leftist, and I have no intention of turning back. The government simply has no right to control what it does not own, or in this case, the market.
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