Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[The Arian nation]

Social Theocracy for me:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gos ... /id=972503

Wut?

This is his answer to "what type of leftist are you".

[Cekoviu]

Wut?

This is his answer to "what type of leftist are you".

Ah.

[The Arian nation]

Social Theocracy for me:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gos ... /id=972503

What religion though?

Edit: nevermind

[Aillyria]

CNN, MSNBC, and media outlets of their ilk are regressive or at least sympathetic. Tbh, feminism has created this backlash on their own through their sexism and sympathizing for groups who'd love to kill us all (Islamists), forcing people who'd otherwise oppose eachother to move closer.

nice meem friendo :^)

So now being egalitarian is being an MRA? That's quite telling of the feminist mindset right there! You don't want women to have superior rights to men? You're a misogynist!!!

Look, the regressives are the reason why no one wants to identify with the left, why many of the non-SJW leftists and socialists are desociating themselves from the "leftist" label (like I've done myself). They've turned the left into a joke, a very scary, very totalitarian joke.

If you want to willingly misinterpret my posts so you can start fights, go ahead, but i'm not falling for your bait, and I'm not interested in wasting my time arguing more about how ebil feminists are.

Because you can't prove that it isn't evil. Intersectionalism and Feminism's relevance to honest leftist-socialist activism has been the dominant subject for easily the last 10 or so pages, and not a single time has any of its proponents made any convincing arguments of their ideology's utility to our struggle against the bourgeois and inequality of opportunities. You know why? Because it can't be done, you can't defend an undefendable ideology based on half truths at best, and obsessed with abstraction and overemotiveness.

[Cekoviu]

nice meem friendo :^)

If you want to willingly misinterpret my posts so you can start fights, go ahead, but i'm not falling for your bait, and I'm not interested in wasting my time arguing more about how ebil feminists are.

Because you can't prove that it isn't evil. Intersectionalism and Feminism's relevance to honest leftist-socialist activism has been the dominant subject for easily the last 10 or so pages, and not a single time has any of its proponents made any convincing arguments of their ideology's utility to our struggle against the bourgeois and inequality of opportunities. You know why? Because it can't be done, you can't defend an undefendable ideology based on half truths at best, and obsessed with abstraction and overemotiveness.

Because I don't think feminism has anything to do with socialism. They can work together, but I've never argued that feminism is required for "dismantling the bourgeoisie" (which I don't want to do anyway as a social democrat). Take your anger about this out on DCF.
And you also can't prove that socialism isn't evil, Islam isn't evil, and men aren't evil. Checkmate, atheists! :^)

[Jackania yugo]

so...err...what are the problems with the world and how do we fix them?

[Cekoviu]

so...err...what are the problems with the world and how do we fix them?

Oh boy

[The Arian nation]

so...err...what are the problems with the world and how do we fix them?

I don't even know were to start. How about....selfishness?

[Aillyria]

Because you can't prove that it isn't evil. Intersectionalism and Feminism's relevance to honest leftist-socialist activism has been the dominant subject for easily the last 10 or so pages, and not a single time has any of its proponents made any convincing arguments of their ideology's utility to our struggle against the bourgeois and inequality of opportunities. You know why? Because it can't be done, you can't defend an undefendable ideology based on half truths at best, and obsessed with abstraction and overemotiveness.

1.)Because I don't think feminism has anything to do with socialism. (2.)They can work together, but I've never argued that feminism is required for "dismantling the bourgeoisie" (3.)which I don't want to do anyway as a social democrat).(4.) Take your anger about this out on DCF.
(5.)And you also can't prove that socialism isn't evil, Islam isn't evil, and men aren't evil. Checkmate, atheists! :^)

1.) I agree.
2.) Socialism and feminism don't have anything in common to facilitate an alliance, tbh.
3.) I'm aware of your political leanings.
4.) For the last time, I'm not angry. Disagreement =/= anger. I'm passionate about socialism and betterment of society, so I am strong with my wording a bit, but I'm not angry.
5.) What? I'm not an atheist.....

[Dumb Ideologies]

so...err...what are the problems with the world and how do we fix them?

Laissez-faire capitalism, internationalism, our growing inability to debate with each other civily in a new age of extremes, and the fact that ice cream still makes us fat.

We fix them through a well-reasoned national program of reform, a commitment to freedom of speech, and eventually giving in and buying bigger trousers.

[Jackania yugo]

Why does centrism not work (please give a proper response).

[The Grene Knyght]

Why does centrism not work (please give a proper response).

TBH there's few ideologies that don't 'work.' Most ideologies are, have, or could work, in that they can achieve their aims, its just that I don't agree with the aims of centrism (or many other ideologies for that matter)

[Gospel Power]

Social Theocracy for me:

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gos ... /id=972503

Wut?

Yes, not only capitalists believe in God

[The Grene Knyght]

Wut?

Yes, not only capitalists believe in God

believe it or not youre not the first theocratic socialist here.

[Gospel Power]

Yes, not only capitalists believe in God

believe it or not youre not the first theocratic socialist here.

it feels great to be special

[Aillyria]

Yes, not only capitalists believe in God

believe it or not youre not the first theocratic socialist here.

o/

[Gospel Power]

believe it or not youre not the first theocratic socialist here.

o/

Oh, you too!, that is great!

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Honestly, it appears to me that terms like feminist, SJW, and regressive left are pretty much devoid of meaning in most postings. They are really just shorthand ways for abbreviating everything I don't like.

[Cekoviu]

1.)Because I don't think feminism has anything to do with socialism. (2.)They can work together, but I've never argued that feminism is required for "dismantling the bourgeoisie" (3.)which I don't want to do anyway as a social democrat).(4.) Take your anger about this out on DCF.
(5.)And you also can't prove that socialism isn't evil, Islam isn't evil, and men aren't evil. Checkmate, atheists! :^)

1.) I agree.
2.) Socialism and feminism don't have anything in common to facilitate an alliance, tbh.
3.) I'm aware of your political leanings.
4.) For the last time, I'm not angry. Disagreement =/= anger. I'm passionate about socialism and betterment of society, so I am strong with my wording a bit, but I'm not angry.
5.) What? I'm not an atheist.....

3. Don't see why you're trying to pander to my apparent anti-bourgeoisie thoughts, then.
4. >last time
Don't remember you ever saying that before, but eh. Bad word choice either way.
5. Man, you really need to get up to date with meme culture.

[Cekoviu]

Honestly, it appears to me that terms like feminist, SJW, and regressive left are pretty much devoid of meaning in most postings. They are really just shorthand ways for abbreviating everything I don't like.

Feminist at least has some meaning, but otherwise true.

[Sunstruck]

Honestly, it appears to me that terms like feminist, SJW, and regressive left are pretty much devoid of meaning in most postings. They are really just shorthand ways for abbreviating everything I don't like.

If people who hate SJWs would replace the word "SJW" with what they think SJWs stand up for, then a lot of arguments would be avoided.

[Aillyria]

1.) I agree.
2.) Socialism and feminism don't have anything in common to facilitate an alliance, tbh.
3.) I'm aware of your political leanings.
4.) For the last time, I'm not angry. Disagreement =/= anger. I'm passionate about socialism and betterment of society, so I am strong with my wording a bit, but I'm not angry.
5.) What? I'm not an atheist.....

3. Don't see why you're trying to pander to my apparent anti-bourgeoisie thoughts, then.
4. >last time
Don't remember you ever saying that before, but eh. Bad word choice either way.
5. Man, you really need to get up to date with meme culture.

I'm a bit older than the majority of the forum, so I'm not all that up to speed on new memes.

Honestly, it appears to me that terms like feminist, SJW, and regressive left are pretty much devoid of meaning in most postings. They are really just shorthand ways for abbreviating everything I don't like.

Feminist at least has some meaning, but otherwise true.

If that were true I'd be calling people like Richard Spencer an SJW or regressive too. I despise both the alt-right and regressive left.

[Sunstruck]

Alt-right and regressive-left are labels often used to describe people that are not either.
This world has become so partisan that it's impossible to talk about anything without being labeled as a commie SJW "feminazi" by my peers. And they think they won the argument by calling me that.
I don't get it.

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

I'm a bit older than the majority of the forum, so I'm not all that up to speed on new memes.

No one is as old as this old man.

[Sunstruck]

3. Don't see why you're trying to pander to my apparent anti-bourgeoisie thoughts, then.
4. >last time
Don't remember you ever saying that before, but eh. Bad word choice either way.
5. Man, you really need to get up to date with meme culture.

I'm a bit older than the majority of the forum, so I'm not all that up to speed on new memes.

Feminist at least has some meaning, but otherwise true.

If that were true I'd be calling people like Richard Spencer an SJW or regressive too. I despise both the alt-right and regressive left.

"Checkmate, atheists!" is a meme where someone talking about something completely irrelevant to religion ends it with "checkmate, atheists!" as a joke. As an atheist I find it funny, some don't.