Left-Wing Discussion Thread III

[Ostroeuropa]

The people do not even have community dances anymore. They go to privatized establishments where dj's are gradually replacing musicians

Good DJ's are a form of musician.

[The Widening Gyre]

No, they cannot coexist. Regular people have stopped singing together.

... They most certainly still do.

I am not going to defend against talk show radio style of attack.

The lady doth proteſt too much, methinks. Prithee, if thou haſt not a rejoinder than iche schall be forced to conclude that thy words are nought but Auſter's wend.

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

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Hi,

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[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

RIght, we're off topic. But I'm sorry that occurred with you. My own childhood was rather tame by comparison. I was lucky compared to many, don't think I don't know it.

Appreciate it. Well, that's why it is a spectrum. However, I consider myself very fortunate. It all worked out in the end.

[Aillyria]

So have you guys heard about the Deysha Hargrave case in Louisiana? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I see this as the bourgeois becoming more bold in enforcement of their hegemony. This will be common soon.

http://www.1clickdaily.com/Teacher-Arrested-After-Asking-About-Boss-Raise-4006566.html

[The Parkus Empire]

The people do not even have community dances anymore. They go to privatized establishments where dj's are gradually replacing musicians

Community dances seem more like a southern thing. Nevertheless, the more privatization, the better.

That why you Papists privatized the Church?

[The Parkus Empire]

No, they cannot coexist. Regular people have stopped singing together.

... They most certainly still do.

I am not going to defend against talk show radio style of attack.

The lady doth proteſt too much, methinks. Prithee, if thou haſt not a rejoinder than iche schall be forced to conclude that thy words are nought but Auſter's wend.

I do not think you know what "protest" means in Early Modern English

[The Parkus Empire]

The people do not even have community dances anymore. They go to privatized establishments where dj's are gradually replacing musicians

Good DJ's are a form of musician.

Adorno is rolling in his grave.

[The Widening Gyre]

... They most certainly still do.



The lady doth proteſt too much, methinks. Prithee, if thou haſt not a rejoinder than iche schall be forced to conclude that thy words are nought but Auſter's wend.

I do not think you know what "protest" means in Early Modern English

To make a solemn declaration or vow - like declaring that you're not going to defend your argument.

[The Multiversal Communist Collective]

So have you guys heard about the Deysha Hargrave case in Louisiana? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I see this as the bourgeois becoming more bold in enforcement of their hegemony. This will be common soon.

That's what happens without unionization. In my college, if any professor was treated that way, we could get the college blacklisted (and the college knows it). However, generally, it is only public school teachers who are treated like trash, not professors. Very, very sad.

I agree, under Trump, it may start becoming more common.

[The Parkus Empire]

I do not think you know what "protest" means in Early Modern English

To make a solemn declaration or vow - like declaring that you're not going to defend your argument.

I am not going to defend against unfalsifiable accusations. Nor am I going to defend the statement that people would sing and have community dances much, much more without automated music.

[Arkolon]

To make a solemn declaration or vow - like declaring that you're not going to defend your argument.

I am not going to defend against unfalsifiable accusations. Nor am I going to defend the statement that people would sing and have community dances much, much more without automated music.

The nature of community song and dance has just shifted with economic developments. It is financially necessary to mass produce music in the way it is today, and even that is changing with streaming and other music platforms. Folk dances have been supplanted by music players, radio stations and night clubs, as music becomes more generalised but also more specific, with new styles appealing to avant-garde or alternative niches. People still sing, people still dance, but differently as they have a different attitude to music. Such is the result of the industrialisation and privatisation of music, a cultural product of a capitalist system. What you are yearning for is to go back to the tribal sense of community and music, but that is impossible without reverting to the tribal sense of society and economy.

[The Parkus Empire]

I am not going to defend against unfalsifiable accusations. Nor am I going to defend the statement that people would sing and have community dances much, much more without automated music.

The nature of community song and dance has just shifted with economic developments. It is financially necessary to mass produce music in the way it is today, and even that is changing with streaming and other music platforms. Folk dances have been supplanted by music players, radio stations and night clubs, as music becomes more generalised but also more specific, with new styles appealing to avant-garde or alternative niches. People still sing, people still dance, but differently as they have a different attitude to music. Such is the result of the industrialisation and privatisation of music, a cultural product of a capitalist system. What you are yearning for is to go back to the tribal sense of community and music, but that is impossible without reverting to the tribal sense of society and economy.

Ah, no, automation of music is less than a hundred years old, and it is not "financially necessary"

[Aillyria]

So have you guys heard about the Deysha Hargrave case in Louisiana? What do you guys think about this? Personally, I see this as the bourgeois becoming more bold in enforcement of their hegemony. This will be common soon.

That's what happens without unionization. In my college, if any professor was treated that way, we could get the college blacklisted (and the college knows it). However, generally, it is only public school teachers who are treated like trash, not professors. Very, very sad.

I agree, under Trump, it may start becoming more common.

It's pretty sad, especially that Mrs. Hargrave was arrested without having even committed a crime.

Eh, I think this is a trend that has nothing to do with Trump in specific. This is just the continued actualization of the capitalist ideology.

[Northern Davincia]

The nature of community song and dance has just shifted with economic developments. It is financially necessary to mass produce music in the way it is today, and even that is changing with streaming and other music platforms. Folk dances have been supplanted by music players, radio stations and night clubs, as music becomes more generalised but also more specific, with new styles appealing to avant-garde or alternative niches. People still sing, people still dance, but differently as they have a different attitude to music. Such is the result of the industrialisation and privatisation of music, a cultural product of a capitalist system. What you are yearning for is to go back to the tribal sense of community and music, but that is impossible without reverting to the tribal sense of society and economy.

Ah, no, automation of music is less than a hundred years old, and it is not "financially necessary"

Yes it is, if music were to remain profitable.

[Northern Davincia]

Community dances seem more like a southern thing. Nevertheless, the more privatization, the better.

That why you Papists privatized the Church?

>the church literally has its own state

I wish.

[Ostroeuropa]

Good DJ's are a form of musician.

Adorno is rolling in his grave.

*Shrug*
Strap some cymbals to him and lets get this party started or whatever.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

It's pretty sad, especially that Mrs. Hargrave was arrested without having even committed a crime.

It is a classic example of American anti-intellectualism.

Eh, I think this is a trend that has nothing to do with Trump in specific. This is just the continued actualization of the capitalist ideology.

Not specifically, no. However, I think that Trump's continued bad behavior has, in effect, given right-wingers permission to treat people like crap. Of course, the rapid disintegration of capitalism is the ultimate root of all these problems.

[Cekoviu]

It looks like you might be using the wrong version. Go to https://8values.github.io

Hi,

No, I used the right version. For some reason the browser didn't display it. However, when I refreshed the browser, all the results showed up. This semester, I am going to recommend that all the students who will be using NationStates for their term project take that 8values test.

You have sociology students use NationStates?

[Ostroeuropa]

So Oprah is being talked about as the 2020 democratic candidate and taken seriously by pundits.

FYI, her face cream uses circumcised foreskins as an active ingredient. So she's now literally the face of the total lack of self-awareness our media has regarding misandry and mens issues. I want you to try and consider a candidate who used blood drawn from baby girls clitorises (As in the less harmful but still bad forms of FGM, this one is milder than circumcision, the prick to draw a drop of blood, rather than removal of tissue.) to rejuvenate their complexion being taken seriously by the media. Imagine them not even bringing it up as a weird thing to do.

Can you imagine the utter hysterics the media would be in if Trumps face cream was that? But Oprah does it and not even a mention.

This doubles up the lack of self-awareness among "Democrat" pundits in the media, seeing as they seem desperate to avoid the obvious suggestion, Bernie Sanders or another Justice Democrat.

But the specific thing here is, I think they ARE self-aware of the economic stuff they are trying to ignore and demonize. The sexism stuff? I genuinely think it's beyond their abilities to notice. While the shilling for various corporate democrats seems duplicitous and conscious, the misandry i'd wager is just who they are as people, and not a conscious decision to ignore it.

[Northern Davincia]

So Oprah is being talked about as the 2020 democratic candidate and taken seriously by pundits.

FYI, her face cream uses circumcised foreskins as an active ingredient. So she's now literally the face of the total lack of self-awareness our media has regarding misandry and mens issues. I want you to try and consider a candidate who used blood drawn from baby girls clitorises (As in the less harmful but still bad forms of FGM, this one is milder than circumcision, the prick to draw a drop of blood, rather than removal of tissue.) to rejuvenate their complexion being taken seriously by the media. Imagine them not even bringing it up as a weird thing to do.

Can you imagine the utter hysterics the media would be in if Trumps face cream was that? But Oprah does it and not even a mention.

This doubles up the lack of self-awareness among "Democrat" pundits in the media, seeing as they seem desperate to avoid the obvious suggestion, Bernie Sanders or another Justice Democrat.

But the specific thing here is, I think they ARE self-aware of the economic stuff they are trying to ignore and demonize. The sexism stuff? I genuinely think it's beyond their abilities to notice. While the shilling for various corporate democrats seems duplicitous and conscious, the misandry i'd wager is just who they are as people, and not a conscious decision to ignore it.

That's the first time I've heard of such claims. Now, Oprah would be an awful candidate and the media should be ashamed for supporting her, but the rest is hard to believe.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

You have sociology students use NationStates?

Yes, starting this semester, it will be the second option for the semester exam (term project): NationStates Semester Exam

[The Parkus Empire]

Ah, no, automation of music is less than a hundred years old, and it is not "financially necessary"

Yes it is, if music were to remain profitable.

Singing together is not for profit

[Salus Maior]

That why you Papists privatized the Church?

>the church literally has its own state

I wish.

Sounds like you want Prosperity Gospel.

[Northern Davincia]

Yes it is, if music were to remain profitable.

Singing together is not for profit

Well it should be.

>the church literally has its own state

I wish.

Sounds like you want Prosperity Gospel.

Just make everything into church property. :^)