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What type of leftist are you?

Left-leaning Centrist
105
13%
Left/Social Liberal
74
9%
Social Democrat
115
14%
Democratic Socialist
139
17%
Marxist Communist
139
17%
Social Anarchist
50
6%
Individualist Anarchist
38
5%
Revolutionary Syndicalist
39
5%
Communalist
27
3%
Other (Please Post)
71
9%
 
Total votes : 797

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Crysuko
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Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:37 pm

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
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But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

Olympic longjumpers wish they could make leaps this big
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Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Democratic Communist Federation
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Posts: 3606
Founded: Jul 14, 2017
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:47 pm

War Gears wrote:But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.


Would, therefore, you define yourself as a fascist or neofascist?

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El Hamidah
Diplomat
 
Posts: 536
Founded: Nov 26, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby El Hamidah » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:11 pm

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
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But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.

No, because even if he did he'd remain a totalitarian with no respect for anyone outside of his elitist Catholic worldview.
put my grasses on, everything went wrong

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War Gears
Minister
 
Posts: 2473
Founded: Jul 02, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby War Gears » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:14 pm

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
War Gears wrote:But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.


Would, therefore, you define yourself as a fascist or neofascist?


No, how does that even follow from what I said.
Parasparopagraho Jīvānām.

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Kubra
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Posts: 11037
Founded: Apr 15, 2006
Libertarian Police State

Postby Kubra » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:33 am

alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig
“Atomic war is inevitable. It will destroy half of humanity: it is going to destroy immense human riches. It is very possible. The atomic war is going to provoke a true inferno on Earth. But it will not impede Communism.”
-Comrade Posadas

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Democratic Communist Federation
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Posts: 3606
Founded: Jul 14, 2017
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Democratic Communist Federation » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:12 am

War Gears wrote:No, how does that even follow from what I said.


It seemed like a logical conclusion from what you wrote, but I am pleased you are not.

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Bakery Hill
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Posts: 11973
Founded: Jul 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:17 am

Kubra wrote:alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig

If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.
Founder of the Committee for Proletarian Morality - Winner of Best Communist Award 2018 - Godfather of NSG Syndicalism

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Dumb Ideologies
Post Czar
 
Posts: 38592
Founded: Sep 30, 2007
Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:20 am

Bakery Hill wrote:
Kubra wrote:alright guys settle down before we end up collectively admitting that we want each other dead
don't ask don't tell ya dig

If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.


I thought that was more "get ass, don't tell Hillary"
¸¤*˜*¤¸Tʜ Sʀssʀɪs Sɴ Cʟʙ ғ Dʙ Iʟɢɪs¸¤*˜*¤¸
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The thirty-something pride-hating tsundere trans cryptofascist nobody warned you about
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Bakery Hill
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Posts: 11973
Founded: Jul 03, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:47 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:If it worked for Clinton it'll work for us.


I thought that was more "get ass, don't tell Hillary"

Close enough's good enough really.
Founder of the Committee for Proletarian Morality - Winner of Best Communist Award 2018 - Godfather of NSG Syndicalism

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Cekoviu
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6403
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Cekoviu » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:47 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism

Franco wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was.
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Northern Davincia
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Posts: 11490
Founded: Jun 10, 2014
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:50 am

Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.


I have never tipped over a trash can.

Then I take it your pastime is breaking windows?
Cekoviu wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Franco wasn't all that bad.

Yes he was.

Machiavellian though he was, he wasn't 'bad'.
Right-Libertarian, Minarchist, Laissez-faire Capitalist, Catholic

Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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Crysuko
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Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:57 am

Northern Davincia wrote:
Democratic Communist Federation wrote:
I have never tipped over a trash can.

Then I take it your pastime is breaking windows?
Cekoviu wrote:Yes he was.

Machiavellian though he was, he wasn't 'bad'.

A: ad hominem, not an argument
B: he ordered atrocities to happen and brutally crushed anyone who opposed him, yes he fecking was.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Questers
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Posts: 13867
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Questers » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:57 am

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:
Image


But if he had been killing capitalists, you'd have been singing his praises.
Yes, it's called "class war", emphasis on the war.
Restore the Crown

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Proctopeo
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7897
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:22 am

Crysuko wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Franco wasn't all that bad.

They seem more eager to tip over trash cans.

he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.
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Crockerland wrote:Yes, we are aware, the Israelis protect their civilians with weapons while the Palestinians protect their weapons with civilians.

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Crysuko
Senator
 
Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:25 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

do explain
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Proctopeo
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7897
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:29 am

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

do explain

Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.
Center-right libertarian LockeabooEconomic: 5.25
Meme addict :^)Social: -3.74
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RIP Balk
Crockerland wrote:Yes, we are aware, the Israelis protect their civilians with weapons while the Palestinians protect their weapons with civilians.

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The New Sea Territory
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16992
Founded: Dec 13, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:29 am

War Gears wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:On this day in 1973, Basque separatists from the ETA assassinated Franco's successor by blowing up his car on the way to mass, sending him 20 meters into the air.

Eusko Gudariak


I never knew Juan Carlos I died in a car bomb.


Not Juan Carlos, Luis Carrero Blanco, the prime minister.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Crysuko
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Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:30 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:do explain

Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
[b]Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea[/b]. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.

elaborate, this is what i'm asking about
Last edited by Crysuko on Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Community Values
Minister
 
Posts: 2880
Founded: Nov 14, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Community Values » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:31 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:he ordered the deaths of over 100,000 CNT members, he absolutly was that bad

Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS
"Corrupted by wealth and power, your government is like a restaurant with only one dish. They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side. But no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen."
-Huey Long

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The New Sea Territory
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16992
Founded: Dec 13, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:35 am

War Gears wrote:
Crysuko wrote:Good on 'em, willing to bet that went towards helping spain rise out of fascism


The political stagnation of the Falangist Party probably played a much bigger role than providing them a martyr.


Blanco was clearly supported by Franco to succeed him. The next pick after Blanco's death was unable to balance various factions of the party, while resistance to the Franco regime became more concrete and organized (for example, the ETA).

Blanco might have been capable of preserving the regime. The ETA's actions surely accelerated the regime's end.
| Ⓐ | Anarchist Communist | Heideggerian Marxist | Vegetarian | Bisexual | Stirnerite | Slavic/Germanic Pagan | ᛟ |
Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

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Proctopeo
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Posts: 7897
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:35 am

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Spain, like America, enters a civil war between the Kingdom, the Carlist pretenders, and the CNT-FAI.
[b]Letting the anarcho-syndicalists gain any ground is a bad idea[/b]. Especially so in a world where syndicalism is prevalent, but it still applies in ours where it was smothered in its cradle.

elaborate, this is what i'm asking about

Have you seen the Union of Britain?

Community Values wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Kaiserreich showed us why we shouldn't give CNT-FAI any ground.

Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS

My boy Carl will win this fight!
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Crockerland wrote:Yes, we are aware, the Israelis protect their civilians with weapons while the Palestinians protect their weapons with civilians.

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Crysuko
Senator
 
Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:37 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Crysuko wrote:elaborate, this is what i'm asking about

Have you seen the Union of Britain?

Community Values wrote:Carlist reactionaries and Spanish bourgeoisie will hold no ground against the Revolucion
BREAK
THE
CHAINS

My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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Questers
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13867
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Questers » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:40 am

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Have you seen the Union of Britain?


My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7VAxt7Dhs8&t=1s
Restore the Crown

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Proctopeo
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 7897
Founded: Sep 26, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Proctopeo » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:43 am

Crysuko wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Have you seen the Union of Britain?


My boy Carl will win this fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ

In Kaiserreich, syndicalists have the tendency to show up when things are bad and make things even worse.
Center-right libertarian LockeabooEconomic: 5.25
Meme addict :^)Social: -3.74
Manga is literatureWill probably retake once every month or so, last updated 3/8/2019
RIP Balk
Crockerland wrote:Yes, we are aware, the Israelis protect their civilians with weapons while the Palestinians protect their weapons with civilians.

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Crysuko
Senator
 
Posts: 4614
Founded: Feb 26, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Crysuko » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:46 am

Proctopeo wrote:

In Kaiserreich, syndicalists have the tendency to show up when things are bad and make things even worse.

worse how.
Quotes:
Xilonite wrote: cookies are heresy.

Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

Yugoslav Memes wrote:
Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

one week ban for flaming xd

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Much better than the kulak smoothies. Their texture was suspiciously grainy.

¡A Las Barricades!

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