26 Dead including children at San Antonio Church massacre

[Telconi]

If you commit a crime worth having the gun confiscated, sure.

How many times has your car been confiscated due to it being centrally registered with the government?

My car isn't centrally registered with the government. The national government has no idea what I drive. The national government should not be allowed to register guns, leave it up to the states

No, despite Kevin De Leon and Kamala Harris' beleifs, Californians are entitled to liberty too.

[Ifreann]

Is there a political party opposed to private gun ownership?

https://www.democrats.org

But they're not opposed to private gun ownership. You must be thinking of some other party.

[Thermodolia]

My car isn't centrally registered with the government. The national government has no idea what I drive. The national government should not be allowed to register guns, leave it up to the states

It's centrally registered to your state, is it not?

Kinda. The state government doesn't issue the tags though, that's the counties job.

[United Muscovite Nations]

My car isn't centrally registered with the government. The national government has no idea what I drive. The national government should not be allowed to register guns, leave it up to the states

It's centrally registered to your state, is it not?

Your vehicle holds a licence plate which is tied to it. There is a registered owner of the vehicle, identified by its licence plate.
No, it isn't registered with the federal government, because the federal government does not issue plates to the US populace. But I didn't claim it did.

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

[Telconi]

TIL there's no such thing l, nor has there ever been a such a thing as an assault weapon ban, handgun bans, the NFA, the CA handgun roster. The SAFE act, etc. etc. etc.

You mean coming into somebody's home and forcefully depriving them of a human right isn't comparable to coming into somebody's home and forcefully depriving them of a human right? Care to explain?

And private firearm ownership - even of those types of weapons - was not outlawed. New sales and transfers of some of those types of weapons were heavily restricted but... firearm ownership of modern semiautomatic weapons was not outlawed, attempted to be outlawed, nor suggested as policy by the Democrat Party.

Really? Which is why I have to fucking destroy or disable my rifle by July 1 2018? Nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban...

That's why there was literally a handgun confiscation done in Chicago right? Once again, nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban...

Literally all of these things I named were bans, some retroactive, some not, but all bans.

[Thermodolia]

My car isn't centrally registered with the government. The national government has no idea what I drive. The national government should not be allowed to register guns, leave it up to the states

No, despite Kevin De Leon and Kamala Harris' beleifs, Californians are entitled to liberty too.

Would you rather a state or federal system? Because at least you can leave the hell that it's California

[Imperializt Russia]

It's centrally registered to your state, is it not?

Your vehicle holds a licence plate which is tied to it. There is a registered owner of the vehicle, identified by its licence plate.
No, it isn't registered with the federal government, because the federal government does not issue plates to the US populace. But I didn't claim it did.

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

What is a right? And if the ownership of firearms is such a right, why is the US the only country in the world to claim it as valid?

[Fartsniffage]

It's centrally registered to your state, is it not?

Your vehicle holds a licence plate which is tied to it. There is a registered owner of the vehicle, identified by its licence plate.
No, it isn't registered with the federal government, because the federal government does not issue plates to the US populace. But I didn't claim it did.

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

Is voting a right?

[Imperializt Russia]

And private firearm ownership - even of those types of weapons - was not outlawed. New sales and transfers of some of those types of weapons were heavily restricted but... firearm ownership of modern semiautomatic weapons was not outlawed, attempted to be outlawed, nor suggested as policy by the Democrat Party.

Really? Which is why I have to fucking destroy or disable my rifle by July 1 2018? Nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban....

Are you spouting more hypotheticals, or do you own a rifle you are required to destroy or disable?

What rifle, under what law, are you referring to?

[Telconi]

https://www.democrats.org

But they're not opposed to private gun ownership. You must be thinking of some other party.

It's literally in their platform.

[Sovaal]

And private firearm ownership - even of those types of weapons - was not outlawed. New sales and transfers of some of those types of weapons were heavily restricted but... firearm ownership of modern semiautomatic weapons was not outlawed, attempted to be outlawed, nor suggested as policy by the Democrat Party.

Really? Which is why I have to fucking destroy or disable my rifle by July 1 2018? Nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban...

That's why there was literally a handgun confiscation done in Chicago right? Once again, nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban...

Literally all of these things I named were bans, some retroactive, some not, but all bans.

All while rifles of the same system but without any features are A-Ok.

[Imperializt Russia]

But they're not opposed to private gun ownership. You must be thinking of some other party.

It's literally in their platform.

Then cite it.

[Thermodolia]

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

Is voting a right?

It should be

[Thermodolia]

Really? Which is why I have to fucking destroy or disable my rifle by July 1 2018? Nothing to see here, except a fucking gun ban....

Are you spouting more hypotheticals, or do you own a rifle you are required to destroy or disable?

What rifle, under what law, are you referring to?

Not a hypothetical dude. It's a very real Californian law that's most likely unconstitutional

[United Muscovite Nations]

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

Is voting a right?

For someone over the age of 18, yes.

[Telconi]

No, despite Kevin De Leon and Kamala Harris' beleifs, Californians are entitled to liberty too.

Would you rather a state or federal system? Because at least you can leave the hell that it's California

I'd rather neither, because "at least you can leave California" is about on the same level as "If you black folks wanna go to decent schools, just leave Arkansas"

[Thermodolia]

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

What is a right? And if the ownership of firearms is such a right, why is the US the only country in the world to claim it as valid?

Because we are the best.

[Imperializt Russia]

Is voting a right?

It should be

I'm guessing you both believe there is, or should be, a right to live one's life without interference from the state.

So what are your thoughts on the Administration's desire to interfere in the lives of women by restricting their reproduction rights, and in those of LGBT persons by interfering in anti-discrimination measures, and what are either of you doing about it?

[United Muscovite Nations]

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

What is a right? And if the ownership of firearms is such a right, why is the US the only country in the world to claim it as valid?

Because it’s in our constitution.

[Thermodolia]

Would you rather a state or federal system? Because at least you can leave the hell that it's California

I'd rather neither, because "at least you can leave California" is about on the same level as "If you black folks wanna go to decent schools, just leave Arkansas"

Oh I know I don't like either of them.

[Telconi]

It's literally in their platform.

Then cite it.

...and keep weapons of war—such as assault weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines (LCAM's)—off our streets...

Pulled directly from the party platform on their website.

[Telconi]

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

What is a right? And if the ownership of firearms is such a right, why is the US the only country in the world to claim it as valid?

IDK, can't explain why apparently everyone else is monsters.

[Ifreann]

It's centrally registered to your state, is it not?

Your vehicle holds a licence plate which is tied to it. There is a registered owner of the vehicle, identified by its licence plate.
No, it isn't registered with the federal government, because the federal government does not issue plates to the US populace. But I didn't claim it did.

The government can regulate cars because owning a car isn’t a right, nor is driving.

And the government can't regulate speech because...wait...they can...huh

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But they're not opposed to private gun ownership. You must be thinking of some other party.

It's literally in their platform.

Lies make Baby Jesus cry.

With 33,000 Americans dying every year, Democrats believe that we must finally take sensible action to address gun violence. While responsible gun ownership is part of the fabric of many communities, too many families in America have suffered from gun violence. We can respect the rights of responsible gun owners while keeping our communities safe.

[Fartsniffage]

Is voting a right?

For someone over the age of 18, yes.

Don't you have to register and be put on a list to be able to vote?

[Imperializt Russia]

What is a right? And if the ownership of firearms is such a right, why is the US the only country in the world to claim it as valid?

Because it’s in our constitution.

You didn't really answer either question. What if the government did manage to repeal the 2nd Amendment? Then it would cease to be a right, are you going to stick with the line of "well, it's not in the constitution, I guess it doesn't matter anymore"?

And even in such an eventuality, this is not a prohibition on the ownership of firearms. See almost every country on the world, which does not enshrine a right to keep and bear arms, yet permits the ownership of firearms, often a wide variety of the things.