26 Dead including children at San Antonio Church massacre

[Ifreann]

How many since the 80s?

This might help

http://time.com/4368615/orlando-mass-shootings-chart/

So that's 80, only counting up to June 2016.

Compared to 1. Ever.

[Irona]

There's a pretty major difference between terrorist attacks and a nut job going on a murderous rampage. Gun control in most country's prevents nut jobs, rather than terrorists. The US is the only major country where nutters regularly commit mass murder.

There really isn't a major difference though. [/quote]
Most country's have an issue with terrorism while avoiding the problem of crazy's committing mass murder. The US has to deal with both. Why is that?

[Kennlind]

The shooter was a radical atheist targeting Christians with an illegally owned gun. It appears I was correct in it being an attack on the Christian faith. Sad times we live in.

Source? I haven't read he's an atheist.

The shooter was a radical atheist targeting Christians with an illegally owned gun. It appears I was correct in it being an attack on the Christian faith. Sad times we live in.

Who has whispered these secrets in your ears? Was it God?

Source
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[Gig em Aggies]

Just pulled this off of DM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5054531/Shooter-targeted-church-ex-s-laws-worshiped.html

It appears a possible motive involved his second wife in which the story says she worshipped their.

Devin Patrick Kelley (right) appears to have a connection to the church (right inset) he targeted in Sutherland Springs, Texas. Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackett said Monday that his ex in-laws attended the First Baptist Church. It was previously reported that Kelley's wife Danielle's (center) family (including mom Michelle, left) were parishioners. Tackett's statement that it was his ex's in-laws who attended the church indicate that he and his wife may have had a falling out. Danielle used to work as a teacher at the church, her mother is friends with the pastor's wife on social media. Records show they were married in April 2014, when Kelley was 23 and his bride was 19. He was also married at least once before, to a Tessa K Kelley. The couple divorced in 2012, the same year he was court-martialed for domestic violence. Kelley used to teach Bible studies, but family and friends say he became an atheist at some point. A former classmate told ABC News that Kelley hated religious people and that his social media posts on Sunday showed he was 'in a bad place'

[Washington Resistance Army]

Most country's have an issue with terrorism while avoiding the problem of crazy's committing mass murder. The US has to deal with both. Why is that?

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

[Thermodolia]

Even if gun control was mandated, it would be unenforceable in the United States.

I'm sure it won't.

I think there's 10 guns for every person in the US. That's impossible to control let alone confiscate

[Irona]

Source? I haven't read he's an atheist.

Who has whispered these secrets in your ears? Was it God?

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There's a difference between 'He was an atheist' and he was a 'radical (wtf does that mean) Atheist who targeted Christian's deliberately'

[Xelsis]

This might help

http://time.com/4368615/orlando-mass-shootings-chart/

So that's 80, only counting up to June 2016.

Compared to 1. Ever.

So with the U.S. having a population over sixty times that of Norway, roughly comparable, then, about 25% less in Norway.

And with two mass shootings in Finland, these, the U.S. ends up with about thirty percent less.

Once again, the U.S. is a big country. One mass shooting in Norway to sixty in the U.S. is the same rate. Two mass shootings in Finland to a hundred in the U.S. means Finland's got the higher ratio.

[Ifreann]

Source? I haven't read he's an atheist.

Who has whispered these secrets in your ears? Was it God?

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Tabloids.

You'd have been better off saying God told you.

[Irona]

Most country's have an issue with terrorism while avoiding the problem of crazy's committing mass murder. The US has to deal with both. Why is that?

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

[Thermodolia]

Source? I haven't read he's an atheist.

Who has whispered these secrets in your ears? Was it God?

Source
Source
Source

Oh look shity sources to match a shity claim

[Val Halla]

Just pulled this off of DM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5054531/Shooter-targeted-church-ex-s-laws-worshiped.html

It appears a possible motive involved his second wife in which the story says she worshipped their.

Devin Patrick Kelley (right) appears to have a connection to the church (right inset) he targeted in Sutherland Springs, Texas. Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackett said Monday that his ex in-laws attended the First Baptist Church. It was previously reported that Kelley's wife Danielle's (center) family (including mom Michelle, left) were parishioners. Tackett's statement that it was his ex's in-laws who attended the church indicate that he and his wife may have had a falling out. Danielle used to work as a teacher at the church, her mother is friends with the pastor's wife on social media. Records show they were married in April 2014, when Kelley was 23 and his bride was 19. He was also married at least once before, to a Tessa K Kelley. The couple divorced in 2012, the same year he was court-martialed for domestic violence. Kelley used to teach Bible studies, but family and friends say he became an atheist at some point. A former classmate told ABC News that Kelley hated religious people and that his social media posts on Sunday showed he was 'in a bad place'

If the daily mail published it, I wouldn't even pinch the salt

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

By all means if you have some idea how to reign in the literal hundreds of millions of guns when even simple things universal background checks get hit with staggering noncompliance let's hear it.

[Xelsis]

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

The people doing the shootings are the problem, and functional bans on guns in cities like Chicago didn't do a thing. Meanwhile, everyone's got a gun in Wyoming, and they're doing pretty well for themselves.

[Germanic Templars]

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

How is a gun the problem? It is like any other tool or equipment you use.

[Fartsniffage]

Trump has confirmed that this is a mental health issue and not a gun problem. So everything is okay then.

In other news...

[Thermodolia]

Because our country has more guns than people, possibly nearing 2 per person if some recentish numbers are to be believed. Gun control is totally unenforceable here.

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

[Thermodolia]

Trump has confirmed that this is a mental health issue and not a gun problem. So everything is okay then.

In other news...

Oh look it's the Reagan deinstitutionalization all over again

[Fartsniffage]

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

The people doing the shootings are the problem, and functional bans on guns in cities like Chicago didn't do a thing. Meanwhile, everyone's got a gun in Wyoming, and they're doing pretty well for themselves.

Yep, Wyoming is only the 5th worst state for gun deaths per capita. Everything is going swimmingly there.

[Germanic Templars]

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

I'll make it easy, I own 2 1/2 (the half is a jointly owned weapon) and plan on adding maybe 3 more.

[Fartsniffage]

Guns are the problem but we just can't do anything?

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

Not if you allow people to use computers to do it....

[Thermodolia]

The people doing the shootings are the problem, and functional bans on guns in cities like Chicago didn't do a thing. Meanwhile, everyone's got a gun in Wyoming, and they're doing pretty well for themselves.

Yep, Wyoming is only the 5th worst state for gun deaths per capita. Everything is going swimmingly there.

Maybe it's not the guns but the people.

Ban people when?

[Petrasylvania]

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

Not if you allow people to use computers to do it....

And the NICS was given more employees. But some people like it understaffed.

[Thermodolia]

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

I'll make it easy, I own 2 1/2 (the half is a jointly owned weapon) and plan on adding maybe 3 more.

Well I own three and I'm planning on getting 7 more.

[Thermodolia]

Well it's down right impossible to track 660 million guns.

Not if you allow people to use computers to do it....

Computers? Those new fangled things?! This is the government not some science lab!!