26 Dead including children at San Antonio Church massacre

[Arlenton]

Same reason I don't call for the re-institution of slavery when a black man commits a crime.

Literal crimes against humanity are bad. Just because your sick mind thinks "Oh boy, some people died, I can totally push my monstrous agenda now!" Doesn't mean were all that terrible

You are acting like saying prayers for victims and their families is better than changing laws. If anyone makes it political its the Republicans who accuse every gun control law as using shootings as political gain

In this case it is. 100x better.

[Telconi]

Same reason I don't call for the re-institution of slavery when a black man commits a crime.

Literal crimes against humanity are bad. Just because your sick mind thinks "Oh boy, some people died, I can totally push my monstrous agenda now!" Doesn't mean were all that terrible

You are acting like saying prayers for victims and their families is better than changing laws. If anyone makes it political its the Republicans who accuse every gun control law as using shootings as political gain

Pointing out that people make it political is now making it political? That's stupid.

Secondly, It is better, while my 'thoughts and prayers' may not really help, what you propose would instead harm them. So yeah, my inaction is better than you tyrannizing the survivors.

[Republic of Keshiland]

You are acting like saying prayers for victims and their families is better than changing laws. If anyone makes it political its the Republicans who accuse every gun control law as using shootings as political gain

Pointing out that people make it political is now making it political. That's stupid.

Secondly, It is better, while my 'thoughts and prayers' may not really help, what you propose would instead harm them. So yeah, my inaction is better than you tyrannizing the survivors.

You know what would be really easy to pass. Have a list of trigger words or phrases that if they come up warrant a searching of all electronic devices and history before being cleared to buy a gun.

Its not making it political to say guns are gotten by people who have done X how acn Y prevent that from happening again.

[Albrenia]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Also, please shut up about the victims' voting habits. I don't care if they voted to legalise miniguns, they don't deserve to be shot.

[Herador]

Pointing out that people make it political is now making it political. That's stupid.

Secondly, It is better, while my 'thoughts and prayers' may not really help, what you propose would instead harm them. So yeah, my inaction is better than you tyrannizing the survivors.

You know what would be really easy to pass. Have a list of trigger words or phrases that if they come up warrant a searching of all electronic devices and history before being cleared to buy a gun.

Its not making it political to say guns are gotten by people who have done X how acn Y prevent that from happening again.

The Bill of Rights isn't a checklist.

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

[Telconi]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Also, please shut up about the victims' voting habits. I don't care if they voted to legalise miniguns, they don't deserve to be shot.

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

[Albrenia]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Also, please shut up about the victims' voting habits. I don't care if they voted to legalise miniguns, they don't deserve to be shot.

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Nope.

[Telconi]

You know what would be really easy to pass. Have a list of trigger words or phrases that if they come up warrant a searching of all electronic devices and history before being cleared to buy a gun.

Its not making it political to say guns are gotten by people who have done X how acn Y prevent that from happening again.

The Bill of Rights isn't a checklist.

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

Basically, this crime is the sort of thing those background checks, when working as intended are meant to stop.

[The Lone Alliance]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Also, please shut up about the victims' voting habits. I don't care if they voted to legalise miniguns, they don't deserve to be shot.

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Best to ignore it and wait for the inevitable DOS once Moderation gets fed up with the bad faith posting. There's far more reasonable gun control people on this site to debate if need be.

[Arlenton]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Also, please shut up about the victims' voting habits. I don't care if they voted to legalise miniguns, they don't deserve to be shot.

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Nothing Keshiland posts seems reasonable.

On the other hand, if someone proposed expanded background checks without waiting times along with legalization of military weapons as a compromise then I'm all ears.

[Telconi]

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Best to ignore it and wait for the inevitable DOS once Moderation gets fed up with the bad faith posting.

Yeah, let my temper get the better of me.

[Camicon]

Reasonable gun control isn't 'tyranny'. Then again certain posters don't usually have reasonable gun control suggestions.

As it was, this particular case wasn't a case of 'no gun laws' it was the ones you guys have not being properly run due to one poor bastard's laziness.

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

[Herador]

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

I didn't say it was a good system, I said the system would have worked in this case if it wasn't for human error.

[Salus Maior]

Your right they probably voted for people who wanted to loosen gun laws. So in a way, this is Irony.

Fucking hell, man. Innocent people are dead.

What, if someone is killed by an immigrant are you going to say "They probably were pro-immigration so lol irony".

[Albrenia]

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

I suspect the adversarial nature of US politics is a lot to blame there. One side is focused on banning more things, and the other side is focused on stopping any law change to prevent that end goal so the reasonable rules suffer.

[Camicon]

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

I didn't say it was a good system, I said the system would have worked in this case if it wasn't for human error.

Glad we can agree that your system needs to be more robust.

[Republic of Keshiland]

Your right they probably voted for people who wanted to loosen gun laws. So in a way, this is Irony.

Fucking hell, man. Innocent people are dead.

What, if someone is killed by an immigrant are you going to say "They probably were pro-immigration so lol irony".

Don't take my post out of context. I didn't bring up irony 1st. Someone else did I just switched the narrative. I was simply questioning the "Now is not the time to talk about gun control" stance that Republicans take. Its never the time unless they are personally affected

[Telconi]

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Nothing Keshiland posts seems reasonable.

On the other hand, if someone proposed expanded background checks without waiting times along with legalization of military weapons as a compromise then I'm all ears.

I'd take NICS on all sales, and wait times, so long as Hughes was repealed and states were pre-emptied from passING stricter possession laws.

[Republic of Keshiland]

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

I didn't say it was a good system, I said the system would have worked in this case if it wasn't for human error.

Why do we still rely on humans? Just have a system the searched up the person name all over the internet and if anything is seen as suspicious or dangerous pops up they are denied access to a gun. Much more reliable.

[Arlenton]

Fucking hell, man. Innocent people are dead.

What, if someone is killed by an immigrant are you going to say "They probably were pro-immigration so lol irony".

Don't take my post out of context. I didn't bring up irony 1st. Someone else did I just switched the narrative. I was simply questioning the "Now is not the time to talk about gun control" stance that Republicans take. Its never the time unless they are personally affected

It is never the time to talk about gun control. Like ever.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd agree that reasonable gun control isn't tyranny, but Keshiland doesn't propose reasonable not tyranny gun regs does he?

Nothing Keshiland posts seems reasonable.

On the other hand, if someone proposed expanded background checks without waiting times along with legalization of military weapons as a compromise then I'm all ears.

I'd trade UBC's and funding increases for NICS for a repeal of Hughes.

[Telconi]

Basically. This is a textbook case of a system that would have worked perfectly if one dude didn't want to finish work early and go whack it.

If your current system fails this spectacularly when one person somewhere shirks their work then you've got, at the absolute very least, a really fucking bad system.

I'll agree NICS needs work.

[Salus Maior]

Fucking hell, man. Innocent people are dead.

What, if someone is killed by an immigrant are you going to say "They probably were pro-immigration so lol irony".

Don't take my post out of context. I didn't bring up irony 1st. Someone else did I just switched the narrative. I was simply questioning the "Now is not the time to talk about gun control" stance that Republicans take. Its never the time unless they are personally affected

Your first post in that chain wasn't exactly great either.

[Telconi]

I didn't say it was a good system, I said the system would have worked in this case if it wasn't for human error.

Why do we still rely on humans? Just have a system the searched up the person name all over the internet and if anything is seen as suspicious or dangerous pops up they are denied access to a gun. Much more reliable.

That's basically how it works, but someone somewhere needs to input the information onto the system, which is what didn't happen.

[Telconi]

Nothing Keshiland posts seems reasonable.

On the other hand, if someone proposed expanded background checks without waiting times along with legalization of military weapons as a compromise then I'm all ears.

I'd trade UBC's and funding increases for NICS for a repeal of Hughes.

And preemption of state bans...