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[Camicon]

https://www.google.com/amp/mashable.com/2017/11/22/net-neutrality-proposal-worse-than-you-think.amp

*screams in impotenet rage*

Can you scream in something else? Or at least get a new type of rage?

Better yet, can you go scream somewhere else? Its tiring.

[The Flutterlands]

https://www.google.com/amp/mashable.com/2017/11/22/net-neutrality-proposal-worse-than-you-think.amp

*screams in impotenet rage*

Can you scream in something else? Or at least get a new type of rage?

How can I? I am powerless to do anything about this except support the downpour of lawsuits. I can only scream in imoptent rage.

[Zanera]

[The Flutterlands]

Can you scream in something else? Or at least get a new type of rage?

Better yet, can you go scream somewhere else? Its tiring.

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way, especially the preemption of states, then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

[Ism]

Better yet, can you go scream somewhere else? Its tiring.

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

[Zanera]

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

At least the universe isn't going to explode.

[Ism]

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

At least the universe isn't going to explode.

Small victories.

[The Flutterlands]

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

I personally find the State Preemption provision to be most insulting to me. Can the FCC do that that without adequate notice? How can they make a lack of regulation in of itself a regulation? How the fuck can the Courts let that fly?

[The Liberated Territories]

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

There are starving kids in Africa, but goddamn my internet is a human right!

[Zanera]

At least the universe isn't going to explode.

Small victories.

We can still invade Canada one last time during the civil war created by the destruction of the American Experiment.

[Ism]

Small victories.

We can still invade Canada one last time during the civil war created by the destruction of the American Experiment.

Shhh, we don't want Camicon to hear.

[Zanera]

We can still invade Canada one last time during the civil war created by the destruction of the American Experiment.

Shhh, we don't want Camicon to hear.

Do not worry my fellow American, for it does not matter. Either way, the Canuckies will know the might of ten thousand and one American war machines surging across their border. And it does not matter, my fellow American, for it shall be on the eve of our own destruction, when our might shall be forfeit soon anyway.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Can you scream in something else? Or at least get a new type of rage?

How can I? I am powerless to do anything about this except support the downpour of lawsuits. I can only scream in imoptent rage.

"imoptent"

*twitch*

[Zanera]

How can I? I am powerless to do anything about this except support the downpour of lawsuits. I can only scream in imoptent rage.

"imoptent"

*twitch*

"I mop tents."

You got something against campsite custodians?

[Corrian]

Actually, that's not really true.

Almost 1/3 of America lives in an area where every single ISP available has admitted to violating net neutrality.

Source.

Hmmm... Rhode Island is blue... that brings some comfort to me...

Oh, I guess blue was good.

[Herador]

Can't you see how horrible this is though? If the Courts let Ajit Pai have his way then I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

That's a tad bit hyperbolic.

Not only is it stupidly hyperbolic, it's making the frankly insulting accusation that no one on this site, which has had long debates every time the issue comes up and see's a very strong showing in support of Net Neutrality, either understands or cares.

No FL, you don't get to insinuate that anyone doesn't understand when everyone else has actually been out trying to do things about it while you type out emotes on a forum. Like, come the fuck on dude.

[Vulturret]

States and indiviuals trying to take legal action in court to "prevent" the FCC from carrying through on their repeal of Net Neutrality is a total joke and should be treated as such. The liberals, states, indiviuals and corporations filing these lawsuits have sunken to a mind-boggling level of dumb that I haven't seen in a long time. I'm going to explain why, and I'm purely going to consider the facts. While I'm personally opposed to the entire concept of net neutrality, I'll explain to y'all in a non-politically infused way why these lawsuits will never work:

So the first thing you've got to understand about courts in America, plaintiffs, is that they deal with legal issues (the law.) The courts step in to prevent new laws, regulations or executive orders from taking effect because they violate the Constitution or an existing law of the country. I have yet to see (I've looked) a good reason for the courts to block the law. Sure, you can claim it could (possibly) hurt people, but it doesn't really violate any of their laws or established rights. I'd love to see someone's arguments on what basis the courts wouuld have to block it. Cheers to debate!

[Galloism]

States and indiviuals trying to take legal action in court to "prevent" the FCC from carrying through on their repeal of Net Neutrality is a total joke and should be treated as such. The liberals, states, indiviuals and corporations filing these lawsuits have sunken to a mind-boggling level of dumb that I haven't seen in a long time. I'm going to explain why, and I'm purely going to consider the facts. While I'm personally opposed to the entire concept of net neutrality, I'll explain to y'all in a non-politically infused way why these lawsuits will never work:

So the first thing you've got to understand about courts in America, plaintiffs, is that they deal with legal issues (the law.) The courts step in to prevent new laws, regulations or executive orders from taking effect because they violate the Constitution or an existing law of the country. I have yet to see (I've looked) a good reason for the courts to block the law. Sure, you can claim it could (possibly) hurt people, but it doesn't really violate any of their laws or established rights. I'd love to see someone's arguments on what basis the courts wouuld have to block it. Cheers to debate!

They’re arguing on the grounds of the change being arbitrary and capricious (in one case), and violating the Administrative Procedure Act (in another case).

I’m not sure if they’ll succeed on those grounds, but those were the grounds that appear to be the basis of the lawsuits.

[Senkaku]

How can I? I am powerless to do anything about this except support the downpour of lawsuits. I can only scream in imoptent rage.

What absolute bullshit. There's a fuck of a lot more you can do besides shitposting on an obscure forum about how mad you are or "supporting lawsuits."

I will lose all hope in reality. It wil be proof that the American experiment has failed, that there is certainly no God, that morality is irrelevant, and nothing matters anymore.

I had a good chuckle over this.

[The Flutterlands]

States and indiviuals trying to take legal action in court to "prevent" the FCC from carrying through on their repeal of Net Neutrality is a total joke and should be treated as such. The liberals, states, indiviuals and corporations filing these lawsuits have sunken to a mind-boggling level of dumb that I haven't seen in a long time. I'm going to explain why, and I'm purely going to consider the facts. While I'm personally opposed to the entire concept of net neutrality, I'll explain to y'all in a non-politically infused way why these lawsuits will never work:

So the first thing you've got to understand about courts in America, plaintiffs, is that they deal with legal issues (the law.) The courts step in to prevent new laws, regulations or executive orders from taking effect because they violate the Constitution or an existing law of the country. I have yet to see (I've looked) a good reason for the courts to block the law. Sure, you can claim it could (possibly) hurt people, but it doesn't really violate any of their laws or established rights. I'd love to see someone's arguments on what basis the courts wouuld have to block it. Cheers to debate!

They’re arguing on the grounds of the change being arbitrary and capricious (in one case), and violating the Administrative Procedure Act (in another case).

I’m not sure if they’ll succeed on those grounds, but those were the grounds that appear to be the basis of the lawsuits.

Why won't they succeed? Surely the Courts will see how extremely harmful the repeal of Net Neutrality is and that Ajit Pai's reasoning for this is extremely bullshit and built on nothing but lies, Right? Or are the Courts dumb and bought by industry?

[Galloism]

They’re arguing on the grounds of the change being arbitrary and capricious (in one case), and violating the Administrative Procedure Act (in another case).

I’m not sure if they’ll succeed on those grounds, but those were the grounds that appear to be the basis of the lawsuits.

Why won't they succeed? Surely the Courts will see how extremely harmful the repeal of Net Neutrality is and that Ajit Pai's reasoning for this is extremely bullshit and built in nothing but lies, Right? Or are the Courts dumb and bought by industry?

“Harmful” isn’t something to sue over in this case.

[The Flutterlands]

Why won't they succeed? Surely the Courts will see how extremely harmful the repeal of Net Neutrality is and that Ajit Pai's reasoning for this is extremely bullshit and built in nothing but lies, Right? Or are the Courts dumb and bought by industry?

“Harmful” isn’t something to sue over in this case.

Why Not? The FCC is suppose to protect consumers, not serve the big corporations. This is regulatory capture. The Courts must see this and understand that Ajit Pai is full of shit. Is there no logic in the Courts?

[Galloism]

“Harmful” isn’t something to sue over in this case.

Why Not? The FCC is suppose to protect consumers, not serve the big corporations. This is regulatory capture. The Courts must see this and understand that Ajit Pai is full of shit. Is there no logic in the Courts?

Its logic that stays the courts hand - being neither a legislator nor a regulator. Courts should not be making policy. They should rule on the law and constitution as written.

[G-Tech Corporation]

“Harmful” isn’t something to sue over in this case.

Why Not? The FCC is suppose to protect consumers, not serve the big corporations. This is regulatory capture. The Courts must see this and understand that Ajit Pai is full of shit. Is there no logic in the Courts?

“Regulatory capture”.

Yeah, that isn’t really the case in the US.

[Galloism]

Why Not? The FCC is suppose to protect consumers, not serve the big corporations. This is regulatory capture. The Courts must see this and understand that Ajit Pai is full of shit. Is there no logic in the Courts?

“Regulatory capture”.

Yeah, that isn’t really the case in the US.

I mean, this is probably a good example of regulatory capture, although you’d be challenged to prove it definitively.

It’s just regulatory capture isn’t per se illegal or a cause for a lawsuit. Bribery is, but you’d have to prove that.