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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:48 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Impeach everyone.

Or require everyone elected to any office to resign immediately after being sworn in. Really, it's the only way.

It'd certainly prolong election season.

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Postby Vulturret » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:50 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.

What people should be doing is lobbying Congress to pass a bill to protect net neutrality.

But why, it's a joke
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:16 pm

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Eibenland wrote:What people should be doing is lobbying Congress to pass a bill to protect net neutrality.

Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:19 pm

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The Flutterlands wrote:Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.

One Republican chick introduced a "net neutrality" scam bill that would ban blocking and throttling but allow paid prioritization, meaning fast lanes...
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:23 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.


Please stop peddling the both sides stuff.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:24 pm

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Holy Tedalonia wrote:Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.

One Republican chick introduced a "net neutrality" scam bill that would ban blocking and throttling but allow paid prioritization, meaning fast lanes...

Which is fine, doesn't necessarily mean she was bribed. A everyday republican like my dad is someone who doesn't agree with NN, and I doubt ISPs bribed him.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:25 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.


It's bribery. If something has a problem you fix it. If you don't like it because the "free market" will take care of it; you remove the law or regulation.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:26 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:One Republican chick introduced a "net neutrality" scam bill that would ban blocking and throttling but allow paid prioritization, meaning fast lanes...

Which is fine, doesn't necessarily mean she was bribed. A everyday republican like my dad is someone who doesn't agree with NN, and I doubt ISPs bribed him.


Statement means nothing unless of course he holds public office and is involved in that area.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:31 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:One Republican chick introduced a "net neutrality" scam bill that would ban blocking and throttling but allow paid prioritization, meaning fast lanes...

Which is fine, doesn't necessarily mean she was bribed. A everyday republican like my dad is someone who doesn't agree with NN, and I doubt ISPs bribed him.

Maybe more like quid pro quo. Do the dirty work in office and get a nice comfy fat check job when you leave. That kind bribery is legal and is most likely what Ajit Pai is up to.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:31 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Some genuinely believe in the cause for removing NN. It's not just bribery, it's just most people (on both sides) don't understand the issue.


It's bribery. If something has a problem you fix it. If you don't like it because the "free market" will take care of it; you remove the law or regulation.

I'm saying that if your against NN it does not equal that you were bribed
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:32 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It's bribery. If something has a problem you fix it. If you don't like it because the "free market" will take care of it; you remove the law or regulation.

I'm saying that if your against NN it does not equal that you were bribed


Where did anybody suggest you were bribed?
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:38 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Which is fine, doesn't necessarily mean she was bribed. A everyday republican like my dad is someone who doesn't agree with NN, and I doubt ISPs bribed him.

Maybe more like quid pro quo. Do the dirty work in office and get a nice comfy fat check job when you leave. That kind bribery is legal and is most likely what Ajit Pai is up to.

Which is undoubtedly common on both sides, but until there is realistic and undeniable evidence that says he has been bribed, I would treat it like he believes NN is bad.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:46 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:I'm saying that if your against NN it does not equal that you were bribed


If it does, I got fucking screwed fam.

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Postby What R Ye Doin in Muh Swaomp » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:11 am

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:40 am

https://www.geekwire.com/2017/full-text ... ike-close/

I suggest all states do the same thing regardless of the consequences and ignore the consequences. Net Neutrality must be maintained at all cost as the free and open internet is essential to a Democratic digital age.

And my morality is superior to Moore's because it doesn't treat groups of people like second-clqss cirizens. So bigotry doesn't count as justifaction for dissent against stupid laws.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:42 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.geekwire.com/2017/full-text-heres-washington-states-legally-contentious-net-neutrality-bill-looks-like-close/

I suggest all states do the same thing regardless of the consequences and ignore the consequences. Net Neutrality must be maintained at all cost as the free and open internet is essential to a Democratic digital age.


As always your ideas are silly and should be totally ignored.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:45 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.geekwire.com/2017/full-text-heres-washington-states-legally-contentious-net-neutrality-bill-looks-like-close/

I suggest all states do the same thing regardless of the consequences and ignore the consequences. Net Neutrality must be maintained at all cost as the free and open internet is essential to a Democratic digital age.


As always your ideas are silly and should be totally ignored.

It's not silly when the free and open internet is at stake. Even if the Courts does strike state rules down they should still enforce their own Net Neutrality rules.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:46 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
As always your ideas are silly and should be totally ignored.

It's not silly when the free and open internet is at stake. Even if the Courts does strike state rules down they should still enforce their own Net Neutrality rules.


I too support the south getting rid of gay marriage.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:48 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:It's not silly when the free and open internet is at stake. Even if the Courts does strike state rules down they should still enforce their own Net Neutrality rules.


I too support the south getting rid of gay marriage.

Doesn't count because you are treating people as second class citizens.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:50 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I too support the south getting rid of gay marriage.

Doesn't count because you are treating people as second class citizens.


Oh but it does count. You can't have one but not the other, either states can totally give .fed the finger and ignore things like court rulings or they can't.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:51 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Doesn't count because you are treating people as second class citizens.


Oh but it does count. You can't have one but not the other, either states can totally give .fed the finger and ignore things like court rulings or they count.

There must be secular justifaction in the name of equality and democracy. Anything less is wrong.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:54 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Oh but it does count. You can't have one but not the other, either states can totally give .fed the finger and ignore things like court rulings or they count.

There must be secular justifaction in the name of equality and democracy. Anything less is wrong.


You might want to tell yourself that but your ideas are a horrifically bad slippery slope.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:55 am

The Flutterlands wrote:https://www.geekwire.com/2017/full-text-heres-washington-states-legally-contentious-net-neutrality-bill-looks-like-close/

I suggest all states do the same thing regardless of the consequences and ignore the consequences. Net Neutrality must be maintained at all cost as the free and open internet is essential to a Democratic digital age.

And my morality is superior to Moore's because it doesn't treat groups of people like second-clqss cirizens. So bigotry doesn't count as justifaction for dissent against stupid laws.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:There must be secular justifaction in the name of equality and democracy. Anything less is wrong.


You might want to tell yourself that but your ideas are a horrifically bad slippery slope.

Treating people like second-class citizens is objectively wrong, having a frew and open internet is objectively right. There is some form of objective morality.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:56 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You might want to tell yourself that but your ideas are a horrifically bad slippery slope.

Treating people like second-clqss citizens is objectively wrong, having a frew and open internet is objectively right. There is some form of objective morality.


No there isn't.
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