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The Flutterlands
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:43 pm


Yeah I posted his tweet...
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Postby Maineiacs » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:51 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:Milwaukee 1st Congressional District: Iron Stache vs Iron and Blood.

BTW, remember when Trump thought hedge funds paid too little?



Very few do, which is exactly what Trump is counting on.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:56 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Milwaukee 1st Congressional District: Iron Stache vs Iron and Blood.

BTW, remember when Trump thought hedge funds paid too little?



Very few do, which is exactly what Trump is counting on.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:12 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
I don't think impeachment talk is as politically bad as you think it is. IIRC, a majority of Americans want it now.

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch far more than Trump has ever done. Besides, why the fuck should Pence be president?

I dig how the legal mechanism for removing a president who has lost his legitimacy is a crazy dangerous step too far that can’t be justified, but remove a regulation or two on the internet and we all have to storm the bastille.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:17 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch far more than Trump has ever done. Besides, why the fuck should Pence be president?

I dig how the legal mechanism for removing a president who has lost his legitimacy is a crazy dangerous step too far that can’t be justified, but remove a regulation or two on the internet and we all have to storm the bastille.

How did he lose his legitimacy? He is the 45th President and history will record him has such. Really, I just dont see it as practical to impeach a President partisanly only for him to get acquitted in the Senate.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:46 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I dig how the legal mechanism for removing a president who has lost his legitimacy is a crazy dangerous step too far that can’t be justified, but remove a regulation or two on the internet and we all have to storm the bastille.

How did he lose his legitimacy? He is the 45th President and history will record him has such. Really, I just dont see it as practical to impeach a President partisanly only for him to get acquitted in the Senate.


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Postby Valrifell » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:47 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I dig how the legal mechanism for removing a president who has lost his legitimacy is a crazy dangerous step too far that can’t be justified, but remove a regulation or two on the internet and we all have to storm the bastille.

How did he lose his legitimacy? He is the 45th President and history will record him has such. Really, I just dont see it as practical to impeach a President partisanly only for him to get acquitted in the Senate.


According to you, the government lost its legitimacy and had to be overthrown when they repealed NN. Do you not remember that?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:50 pm

Valrifell wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:How did he lose his legitimacy? He is the 45th President and history will record him has such. Really, I just dont see it as practical to impeach a President partisanly only for him to get acquitted in the Senate.


According to you, the government lost its legitimacy and had to be overthrown when they repealed NN. Do you not remember that?

Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:52 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
According to you, the government lost its legitimacy and had to be overthrown when they repealed NN. Do you not remember that?

Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.


Well yeah. We shouldn't blame him when the government does the things he said it would do if he was elected.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:06 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
According to you, the government lost its legitimacy and had to be overthrown when they repealed NN. Do you not remember that?

Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.


Ajit Pai is an independent chairman that don't need no Trump!

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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:12 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I dig how the legal mechanism for removing a president who has lost his legitimacy is a crazy dangerous step too far that can’t be justified, but remove a regulation or two on the internet and we all have to storm the bastille.

How did he lose his legitimacy? He is the 45th President and history will record him has such. Really, I just dont see it as practical to impeach a President partisanly only for him to get acquitted in the Senate.

Flutter: "the US govt is controlled by oligarchs and must be violently overthrown"
Also Flutter: "woah slow down on this impeachment stuff guys, he's still our president"
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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:17 pm

Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:21 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.

What is it with people assuming Trump's Spreading Taint will completely wash off of Pence and the public will act like he's a great President from the start of 2017 if he replaces the God-Emperor?
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Eibenland » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:22 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.

Then what do you suggest? That is the only legal and viable option.
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:24 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.

Yeah, that's what you're saying now, but earlier it was because it'd be a waste of political capital and it'd "cheapen the executive branch."

Frankly, between this silliness and your soft spot for him on the Russia investigation, I think you still like my main man DJT more than you let on. Sure, you're mad about stuff his administration is doing, but you were gonna be mad about something no matter what- after all, isn't that why you voted for him, at the end of the day? :roll:
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Postby Senkaku » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:24 pm

Eibenland wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.

Then what do you suggest? That is the only legal and viable option.

"smash the state" etc etc
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:25 pm

Eibenland wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Because impeachment doesn't cut it for we will get Pence.

Then what do you suggest? That is the only legal and viable option.

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Postby Eibenland » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:26 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
According to you, the government lost its legitimacy and had to be overthrown when they repealed NN. Do you not remember that?

Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.

What people should be doing is lobbying Congress to pass a bill to protect net neutrality.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:31 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Eibenland wrote:Then what do you suggest? That is the only legal and viable option.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:41 pm

Eibenland wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Overthrow the Government To Avenge Net Neutrality, But Don't Impeach Trump Even Though He Put Ajit Pai In Charge of the FCC in the First Place.

What people should be doing is lobbying Congress to pass a bill to protect net neutrality.

Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...
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Postby Petrasylvania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:43 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Eibenland wrote:What people should be doing is lobbying Congress to pass a bill to protect net neutrality.

Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

That's why you replace them with Democrats.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:41 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Like Republicans will ever betray their ISP donors...

That's why you replace them with Democrats.

Are you saying we should impeach Pence too?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:44 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:That's why you replace them with Democrats.

Are you saying we should impeach Pence too?

Impeach everyone.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Are you saying we should impeach Pence too?

Impeach everyone.

Or require everyone elected to any office to resign immediately after being sworn in. Really, it's the only way.
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