Trump MAGAthread X - Follow the Money

[The Flutterlands]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/forget-what-they-say--house-democrats-are-readying-for-impeachment/2017/12/20/c9ad6548-e5c5-11e7-833f-155031558ff4_story.html?utm_term=.487582887caa

Come on. Even if they get a majority in both Chambers. Impeachment will still be a waste of political capital when it gets to the Senate where they need two thirds and that will be tricky getting enough Republicans. Don't pull a Clinton...

I don't think impeachment talk is as politically bad as you think it is. IIRC, a majority of Americans want it now.

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch far more than Trump has ever done. Besides, why the fuck should Pence be president?

[Valrifell]

I don't think impeachment talk is as politically bad as you think it is. IIRC, a majority of Americans want it now.

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch

Please, the first time impeachment attempted was under bullshit pretenses.

[The Flutterlands]

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch

Please, the first time impeachment attempted was under bullshit pretenses.

You mean Johnson firing Secretary of War?

[Uiiop]

I don't think impeachment talk is as politically bad as you think it is. IIRC, a majority of Americans want it now.

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch far more than Trump has ever done. Besides, why the fuck should Pence be president?

You realize that even if the russia shit isn't real the the obstruction of justice charges sure as well are. If that doesn't fit into your range of good reasons nothing will.

As for pence there's a good chance he have similar charges if this path actually works out. I'll save how the other in the line of succession would fare to the next parts of this convo.

[The Flutterlands]

That's not a good enough reason. It has to be for high crimes and misdemenors. Otherwise that will cheapen the executive branch far more than Trump has ever done. Besides, why the fuck should Pence be president?

You realize that even if the russia shit isn't real the the obstruction of justice charges sure as well are. If that doesn't fit into your range of good reasons nothing will.

As for pence there's a good chance he have similar charges if this path actually works out. I'll save how the other in the line of succession would fare to the next parts of this convo.

Why would Republicans turn on Pence? Impeachment has happened twice. Removal from office happened never. Unless there is bipartisan support accross both chambers, it's a waste of time.

[Valrifell]

Please, the first time impeachment attempted was under bullshit pretenses.

You mean Johnson firing Secretary of War?

Yes.

[Valrifell]

You realize that even if the russia shit isn't real the the obstruction of justice charges sure as well are. If that doesn't fit into your range of good reasons nothing will.

As for pence there's a good chance he have similar charges if this path actually works out. I'll save how the other in the line of succession would fare to the next parts of this convo.

Why would Republicans turn on Pence?

Because it tends to not be politically favorable to keep any kind of criminal in office? (operating under the assumption that Pence gets caught in this)

[The Flutterlands]

Why would Republicans turn on Pence?

Because it tends to not be politically favorable to keep any kind of criminal in office? (operating under the assumption that Pence gets caught in this)

Impeachment has happened twice. Removal from office happened never. Unless there is bipartisan support accross both chambers, it's a waste of time, and looking at how things are, it will be.

[Uiiop]

You realize that even if the russia shit isn't real the the obstruction of justice charges sure as well are. If that doesn't fit into your range of good reasons nothing will.

As for pence there's a good chance he have similar charges if this path actually works out. I'll save how the other in the line of succession would fare to the next parts of this convo.

Why would Republicans turn on Pence? Impeachment has happened twice. Removal from office happened never. Unless their is bipartisan support accross both chambers, it's a waste of time.

Why would Republicans turn on Pence?

Because it tends to not be politically favorable to keep any kind of criminal in office? (operating under the assumption that Pence gets caught in this)

^this with the cavet that the assumption and good chances are just that. Not a 100% probability even under a successful impeachment.

[The Flutterlands]

Why would Republicans turn on Pence? Impeachment has happened twice. Removal from office happened never. Unless their is bipartisan support accross both chambers, it's a waste of time.

Because it tends to not be politically favorable to keep any kind of criminal in office? (operating under the assumption that Pence gets caught in this)

^this with the cavet that the assumption and good chances are just that. Not a 100% probability even under a successful impeachment.

I still don't see ether Trump or Pence getting removed. The crimes will have to be VERY dire with undeniable evidence...

[Internationalist Bastard]

Honestly, Trump being impeached for anything would be a disaser, since his support base would just begin demanding to know why Obama wasn't. That won't be pretty

[Zanera]

Honestly, Trump being impeached for anything would be a disaser, since his support base would just begin demanding to know why Obama wasn't. That won't be pretty

Politics hasn't been trying to make itself look pretty. Politics wants to look ugly as sin.

[The Flutterlands]

Honestly, Trump being impeached for anything would be a disaser, since his support base would just begin demanding to know why Obama wasn't. That won't be pretty

Politics hasn't been trying to make itself look pretty. Politics wants to look ugly as sin.

And besides, why not give him his full term and get rid of him in 2020? He's unpopular enough

[Steffan]

Politics hasn't been trying to make itself look pretty. Politics wants to look ugly as sin.

And besides, why not give him his full term and get rid of him in 2020? He's unpopular enough

Because that means we have to put up with 3 more years of this shit...

[Ifreann]

Politics hasn't been trying to make itself look pretty. Politics wants to look ugly as sin.

And besides, why not give him his full term and get rid of him in 2020? He's unpopular enough

If we wait that long you might lead an army to Capitol Hill to overthrow the government.

[The Flutterlands]

And besides, why not give him his full term and get rid of him in 2020? He's unpopular enough

Because that means we have to put up with 3 more years of this shit...

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

[Steffan]

Because that means we have to put up with 3 more years of this shit...

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

If it means the world would stop laughing at us.
I don't know which of them is worse tbh. They're both...just so bad...

[Senkaku]

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

If it means the world would stop laughing at us.
I don't know which of them is worse tbh. They're both...just so bad...

Yeah tbh we can have a semi-effective fundamentalist loon but who's also dignified and doesn't make a complete buffoon of himself on a daily basis, or we can have an ineffective RINO/softcore white nationalist nitwit who humiliates and debases himself and the entire country every time words come out of his mouth or thumbs but who at least maybe hasn't done as much damage as someone more capable could've (but still a lot)

Personally, I'll take my chances with Trump, but I can understand wanting to switch to Pence tbh

[Northern Davincia]

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

If it means the world would stop laughing at us.
I don't know which of them is worse tbh. They're both...just so bad...

Pence is alright. There's not much he could do wrong as president.

[Major-Tom]

If it means the world would stop laughing at us.
I don't know which of them is worse tbh. They're both...just so bad...

Pence is alright. There's not much he could do wrong as president.

He could do a lot wrong. I know one big critique of him is LGBT rights. Those are valid critiques, because of his very very anti LGBT stances in most all regards. But his problems stem beyond that. Not only is he a fundamentalist on nearly all social issues that come to mind (I mean very very socially conservative) but on domestic and foreign policy, he is just a more extreme NeoCon and overtly anti-working class politician.

His modest and controlled demeanor often tend to overshadow the fact that he is fundamentally incorrect and in disagreement with most Americans on many, many issues.

[The Flutterlands]

Maybe I don't care if Trump is an embarrassment. They are both dangerous and I prefer to have Trump because at least He's idiotic enough to be stopped from doing awful shit.

[Oil exporting People]

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

I'd personally prefer a Military coup and then the ascension of Paul Nehlen as Fuhrer, but that's just me I guess.

[Bakery Hill]

Want three years of Pence and his fundamentalist garbage?

I'd personally prefer a Military coup and then the ascension of Paul Nehlen as Fuhrer, but that's just me I guess.

Top ten anime betrayals.

He is currently running to unseat Paul Ryan, and was backed by Steve Bannon, until being denounced by Breitbart. On December 27, 2017, Bannon's adviser Arthur Schwartz said Nehlen is "dead to us." Breitbart senior editor Joel Pollak said: "We don't support him"

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'd personally prefer a Military coup and then the ascension of Paul Nehlen as Fuhrer, but that's just me I guess.

Top ten anime betrayals.

He is currently running to unseat Paul Ryan, and was backed by Steve Bannon, until being denounced by Breitbart. On December 27, 2017, Bannon's adviser Arthur Schwartz said Nehlen is "dead to us." Breitbart senior editor Joel Pollak said: "We don't support him"

Wonder why that happened, Nehlen always seemed to have a lot of support amongst such groups.

[Oil exporting People]

Top ten anime betrayals.

Wonder why that happened, Nehlen always seemed to have a lot of support amongst such groups.