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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:48 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:'Reports of Foreign Favors to Trump's Business Empire Sharpen Focus On Emoluments Violations'
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/ ... violations

Lmao.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:49 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Obviously.
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Then please inform us which one is the first world economy and which one is the equivalent of Germany's in June 1945.

South Korea is obviously the first world economy.

1945 Germany is not.


Because that is relevant.

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Genivaria wrote:It seems to me that war involving people you personally don't like is automatically 'mass murder'.
Wait are you a pacifist?

No, but definitely not in favour of nuclear weapons anyway in the world.

Except for certain socialist countries of course.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:49 am

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Parti Ouvrier wrote:No, but definitely not in favour of nuclear weapons anyway in the world.

Nuclear weapons are great. They ended WW2 and they prevented WW3 before most of us were born.

Friendly reminder that without nuclear weapons the world would likely either be totally communist or totally democratic.
There is no fucking middle ground.

In either case the death toll would be.....nightmarish.

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:49 am

Bannon saying that "Trump Jr is guilty of treason."

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:50 am

Arlenton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Then please inform us which one is the first world economy and which one is the equivalent of Germany's in June 1945.

South Korea is obviously the first world economy.

1945 Germany is not.


Because that is relevant.

Are you aware of what becomes of a first world economy when you forcibly merges it in a single decade with the equivalent of the German one in June 1945?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:50 am

Arlenton wrote:Should just invade NK now TBH.

Should have done it a while ago actually.

Wait for them to strike first.

Don't want to fight China again.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:51 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Arlenton wrote:South Korea is obviously the first world economy.

1945 Germany is not.


Because that is relevant.

Are you aware of what becomes of a first world economy when you forcibly merges it in a single decade with the equivalent of the German one in June 1945?

NK existing is a worse option.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:51 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Arlenton wrote:South Korea is obviously the first world economy.

1945 Germany is not.


Because that is relevant.

Are you aware of what becomes of a first world economy when you forcibly merges it in a single decade with the equivalent of the German one in June 1945?

It temporarily becomes a third world economy.

Then bounces back.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:52 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Should just invade NK now TBH.

Should have done it a while ago actually.

Wait for them to strike first.

Don't want to fight China again.

That would require an immediate response from us which might make China twitchy.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:52 am

Arlenton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Are you aware of what becomes of a first world economy when you forcibly merges it in a single decade with the equivalent of the German one in June 1945?

NK existing is a worse option.

Is it? Is the containment of the starving, stunted cesspool and the prevention of the spread of this cesspool better than letting it all out and poison all of East Asia?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:53 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Is it? Is the containment of the starving, stunted cesspool and the prevention of the spread of this cesspool better than letting it all out and poison all of East Asia?

Starvation isn't contagious. These are people we're talking about.
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:53 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Should just invade NK now TBH.

Should have done it a while ago actually.

Wait for them to strike first.

Don't want to fight China again.

Not sure whether or not this would be what we do. They probably won't until their nuclear weapons are more functional. Maybe bait them into it before then?

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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:53 am

Arlenton wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:No, but definitely not in favour of nuclear weapons anyway in the world.

Nuclear weapons are great. They ended WW2 and they prevented WW3 before most of us were born.

Disputed by Howard Zinn in his book, A Peoples History of the United States.
'The Japanese were on the verge of surrender, and American military leaders knew that.'
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/ ... ugust.html
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:54 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Wait for them to strike first.

Don't want to fight China again.

That would require an immediate response from us which might make China twitchy.

China has said multiple times that if NK shoots first, they lose there backing.

China is the only reason why NK even exists and they have grown to hate it.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:54 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Are you aware of what becomes of a first world economy when you forcibly merges it in a single decade with the equivalent of the German one in June 1945?

It temporarily becomes a third world economy.

Then bounces back.

In 2200 maybe. It'd take 30-60 years to replace the current North Korean generations who are all utterly useless for South Korea. These aren't East Germans who could be taught capitalism in a matter of a dozen years. These are people who needs to be instructed on the proper use of bank accounts and bank cards, are helplessly retarded and fit for only menial labour in South Korea. The influx of 20 million such individuals would completely destroy the Republic, and in its wake China, Japan and then the West.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:55 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Parti Ouvrier wrote:No, but definitely not in favour of nuclear weapons anyway in the world.

Except for certain socialist countries of course.

Wrong, I don't support NK having nuclear weapons, but the point was, it is rational response to aggression from Washington D.C.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:55 am

Parti Ouvrier wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Nuclear weapons are great. They ended WW2 and they prevented WW3 before most of us were born.

Disputed by Howard Zinn in his book, A Peoples History of the United States.
'The Japanese were on the verge of surrender, and American military leaders knew that.'
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/ ... ugust.html

Yeah I've read the entire People's History of the United States, big fan of Howard Zinn but he's wrong here.
The Japanese were willing to CONDITIONALLY surrender but that was never going to happen anymore than we would've accepted it from Nazi Germany.
Your war-mongering and imperialist government has to go.

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Postby Arlenton » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:56 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Arlenton wrote:NK existing is a worse option.

Is it? Is the containment of the starving, stunted cesspool and the prevention of the spread of this cesspool better than letting it all out and poison all of East Asia?

No one will be starving with the NK government gone. Just a lot of money will need to be spent bu the US and SK. The latter is a better option, since no one is starving/being killed/trapped in NK. So get them before getting them would be more costly than it already is.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:56 am

Genivaria wrote:Yeah I've read the entire People's History of the United States, big fan of Howard Zinn

get out
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:56 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That would require an immediate response from us which might make China twitchy.

China has said multiple times that if NK shoots first, they lose there backing.

China is the only reason why NK even exists and they have grown to hate it.

Have they now?
Okay could I get a source for that because that's a game-changer right there.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:57 am

Arlenton wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Is it? Is the containment of the starving, stunted cesspool and the prevention of the spread of this cesspool better than letting it all out and poison all of East Asia?

No one will be starving with the NK government gone. Just a lot of money will need to be spent bu the US and SK. The latter is a better option, since no one is starving/being killed/trapped in NK. So get them before getting them would be more costly than it already is.

Integrating even half of 20 million stunted, retarded former North Koreans into the South Korean economy would poison the South Korean economy. In turn it would poison the Chinese and Japanese economies, and then the American one.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:57 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Yeah I've read the entire People's History of the United States, big fan of Howard Zinn

get out

Ey it was high school chill out, I've come to realize that his criticism of the 3 American 'just wars' are unfounded.
I also found a copy of Complete Writings of Thomas Paine in my HS library which I checked out 3 times.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:58 am

Arlenton wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Wait for them to strike first.

Don't want to fight China again.

Not sure whether or not this would be what we do. They probably won't until their nuclear weapons are more functional. Maybe bait them into it before then?

Nah, let Kim Jong Un's ego take care of it.

They fuck up, Nato + Japan dog piles NK, NK + SK = UK*, Nato + Japan showers UK* with loads o' money to rebuild.

*Not that UK

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:It temporarily becomes a third world economy.

Then bounces back.

In 2200 maybe. It'd take 30-60 years to replace the current North Korean generations who are all utterly useless for South Korea. These aren't East Germans who could be taught capitalism in a matter of a dozen years. These are people who needs to be instructed on the proper use of bank accounts and bank cards, are helplessly retarded and fit for only menial labour in South Korea.

There's nothing philanthropy can't solve.
The influx of 20 million such individuals would completely destroy the Republic, and in its wake China, Japan and then the West.

At first I thought you were just exaggerating, then I read the other three and laughed.
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