Trump MAGAthread X - Follow the Money

[The Black Forrest]

It's really disheartening to see how far people will go to defend or deflect criticism their favorite moron. "He's one of us!" I guess, or something.

I'm not defending or deflecting anything. I'm just having a good chuckle at how people will let themselves be led around. Like a cat following a laser pointer. Truly funny.

Donnie seems to know what he is doing. You are talking about it.....

[Parti Ouvrier]

Are you familiar with the concepts of rational actors and MAD?

Judging by the way you talk, I'm going to guess 'no', else you'd understand the problem here.

Ah. I see where this is going. This cliche is becoming tiresome.

Here, I'll make your argument for you. "Trump isn't rational so he'll nuke us all."

That about the gist of it?

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

[Parti Ouvrier]

'US war vs. al Qaeda in #Yemen scarcely makes a dent in AQAP, because it can exploit the chaos of U.S.-supported #Saudi war of starvation there. Same old U.S. game of war: create chaos thru war, then justify more war as response to a new terrorist threat!' - Gareth Porter.

Lest we forget, it wasn't long ago that Saudi supporting Trump (the same Saudi Arabia that has been implicated in funding terrorism through charities) did a swod dance with the Saudi royals. So much for Trump's promise to crack down on Saudi Arabia pre-election, now given the nod to sell weapons to use on Yemen.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Ah. I see where this is going. This cliche is becoming tiresome.

Here, I'll make your argument for you. "Trump isn't rational so he'll nuke us all."

That about the gist of it?

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

[Genivaria]

Ah. I see where this is going. This cliche is becoming tiresome.

Here, I'll make your argument for you. "Trump isn't rational so he'll nuke us all."

That about the gist of it?

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

Said no sane person ever.

only country that's used nukes in Asia

This is false.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

They tested nukes, not used them to mass murder people.

[Genivaria]

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

Also the Soviet Union had nuclear tests in Siberia which is where? Asia.

[Genivaria]

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

They tested nukes, not used them to mass murder people.

Oh how adorably naive.
So then I take it you're okay with the murderous Imperial Japanese government being allowed to remain in power and start a new round of shit?

[Parti Ouvrier]

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

Said no sane person ever.

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[Cannot think of a name]

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

What definition of “used” are you using?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

They tested nukes,

Testing is using.

not used them to mass murder people.

Nobody did.

[Cannot think of a name]

They tested nukes, not used them to mass murder people.

Oh how adorably naive.
So then I take it you're okay with the murderous Imperial Japanese government being allowed to remain in power and start a new round of shit?

How did we get here from there?

[Parti Ouvrier]

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

Also the Soviet Union had nuclear tests in Siberia which is where? Asia.

Tested

[Parti Ouvrier]

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

What definition of “used” are you using?

Not being used for mass murder.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

What definition of “used” are you using?

One of them.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Regardless, Kim Jung Un is acting rationally, how else is he to respond to the only country that's used nukes in Asia?

China used nukes in Asia.
India used nukes in Asia.
Pakistan used nukes in Asia.
North Korea used nukes in Asia.

So how many of these uses ended lives?

[Genivaria]

Oh how adorably naive.
So then I take it you're okay with the murderous Imperial Japanese government being allowed to remain in power and start a new round of shit?

How did we get here from there?

The two bombings were the deciding factor that made the Japanese government FINALLY agree to unconditional surrender.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

How did we get here from there?

The two bombings were the deciding factor that made the Japanese government FINALLY agree to unconditional surrender.

It was actually the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

[Arlenton]

Should just invade NK now TBH.

Should have done it a while ago actually.

[Conserative Morality]

It was actually the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

Not even close.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Should just invade NK now TBH.

Do none of you Americans consider the consequences?

[Arlenton]

The two bombings were the deciding factor that made the Japanese government FINALLY agree to unconditional surrender.

It was actually the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

[Arlenton]

Should just invade NK now TBH.

Do none of you Americans consider the consequences?

What consequences? No more North Korea?

[Genivaria]

The two bombings were the deciding factor that made the Japanese government FINALLY agree to unconditional surrender.

It was actually the Soviet invasion of Manchuria.

In order.

On August 6, 1945, at 8:15 AM local time, the United States detonated an atomic bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima.
Sixteen hours later, American President Harry S. Truman called again for Japan's surrender, warning them to "expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."
Late in the evening of August 8, 1945, in accordance with the Yalta agreements, but in violation of the Soviet–Japanese Neutrality Pact, the Soviet Union declared war on Japan, and soon after midnight on August 9, 1945, the Soviet Union invaded the Imperial Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo.
Later in the day, the United States dropped a second atomic bomb, this time on the Japanese city of Nagasaki.
Following these events, Emperor Hirohito intervened and ordered the Supreme Council for the Direction of the War to accept the terms the Allies had set down in the Potsdam Declaration for ending the war.
After several more days of behind-the-scenes negotiations and a failed coup d'état, Emperor Hirohito gave a recorded radio address across the Empire on August 15. In the radio address, called the Jewel Voice Broadcast (玉音放送 Gyokuon-hōsō), he announced the surrender of Japan to the Allies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan

The Soviets were indeed a factor but they were not THE factor.

[Conserative Morality]

Do none of you Americans consider the consequences?

The long term consequences of NK are proving to be much dicier. We should have invaded years ago, tbh.