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Who will win in the US governor elections?

Democrat sweep
90
48%
Republican sweep
19
10%
Dem in VA, GOP in NJ
3
2%
Dem in NJ, GOP in VA
29
16%
Dem in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
GOP in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
Dem in NJ, not sure about VA
24
13%
GOP in NJ, not sure about VA
0
No votes
Not sure about either
11
6%
 
Total votes : 186

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:09 pm

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
Corrian wrote:A Republican? Getting elected in California right now? Funny.

Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout. Plus with some of the BS Jerry Brown has pulled with making knowingly spreading AIDS no longer a felony, and such can and would be a drag, while I do agree he has made some good moves this isnt one of them and i do think it could put him behind

Orange Co. used to be, didn't it?
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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:12 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
San Lumen wrote:your exact words

:roll:

The POLLS exact wording.

And you selected that option. So San Lumen is asking WHY you are "not sure about NJ".
Valrifell wrote:And with Phil Murphy evidently dominating the polls, I wonder if we'll get weed in New Jersey sometime relatively soon.

Murphy has made marijuana legalization central to his campaign, so it's almost a certainty if he wins.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:14 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout. Plus with some of the BS Jerry Brown has pulled with making knowingly spreading AIDS no longer a felony, and such can and would be a drag, while I do agree he has made some good moves this isnt one of them and i do think it could put him behind

Orange Co. used to be, didn't it?

California's election is next year so this is really not relevant.

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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:15 pm

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
Corrian wrote:A Republican? Getting elected in California right now? Funny.

Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout.

Looks like more than just the major cities to me... Even longtime GOP strongholds like Orange County are trending blue.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:16 pm

Collatis wrote:
The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout.

Looks like more than just the major cities to me... Even longtime GOP strongholds like Orange County are trending blue.

California is not relevant to the thread as its election its next year.

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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:20 pm

Who the hell moved the CA governor election up a year?

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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Collatis wrote:Looks like more than just the major cities to me... Even longtime GOP strongholds like Orange County are trending blue.

California is not relevant to the thread as its election its next year.

Neither is constantly telling people to STAY RELEVANT ;)

but I digress...

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm

Collatis wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote: :roll:

The POLLS exact wording.

And you selected that option. So San Lumen is asking WHY you are "not sure about NJ".
.

Whatever direction N.J. goes makes no nevermind to me. I only care about Va. but I didn't have that option.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm

Arlenton wrote:Who the hell moved the CA governor election up a year?

Its a threadjack

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:22 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Collatis wrote:And you selected that option. So San Lumen is asking WHY you are "not sure about NJ".
.

Whatever direction N.J. goes makes no nevermind to me. I only care about Va. but I didn't have that option.

Thats really not an answer.

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:22 pm

Collatis wrote:
San Lumen wrote:California is not relevant to the thread as its election its next year.

Neither is constantly telling people to STAY RELEVANT ;)

but I digress...

Ya think?
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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:23 pm

Arlenton wrote:Who the hell moved the CA governor election up a year?

California felt left out, so they moved their election up one year just so they could be included in this thread. Those Californians...

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Whatever direction N.J. goes makes no nevermind to me. I only care about Va. but I didn't have that option.

Thats really not an answer.

It is the only you're getting.


Hey, don't threadjack.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:24 pm

Collatis wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Who the hell moved the CA governor election up a year?

California felt left out, so they moved their election up one year just so they could be included in this thread. Those Californians...

Well that would be interesting.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Well yeah, that's a given. Virginia is really the only interesting one anyway but, I do believe the country will tilt to the Democrats given Trump's popularity in some states. We'll have to wait and see.

You mean unpopularity. How many seats to you think they will gain?


I should have worded that better...

Any who, that's tough to say. Despite being unpopular, Trump did make a dent in some blue states and had large gains in red ones, and it was because of this populist wave, which he hopes will protect him. The Democrats just need to control either the House or Senate to make Trump's life hell, that's what I think they are aiming for. Of course, turn out matters but, if the right people don't come out, the Democrats or Republicans will lose and in a big way.
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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:27 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You mean unpopularity. How many seats to you think they will gain?


I should have worded that better...

Any who, that's tough to say. Despite being unpopular, Trump did make a dent in some blue states and had large gains in red ones, and it was because of this populist wave, which he hopes will protect him. The Democrats just need to control either the House or Senate to make Trump's life hell, that's what I think they are aiming for. Of course, turn out matters but, if the right people don't come out, the Democrats or Republicans will lose and in a big way.

I assume you'll be voting for Pete Rohrman, Zurk :p

I've already cast my vote by mail for Phil Murphy.

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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:33 pm

Collatis wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I should have worded that better...

Any who, that's tough to say. Despite being unpopular, Trump did make a dent in some blue states and had large gains in red ones, and it was because of this populist wave, which he hopes will protect him. The Democrats just need to control either the House or Senate to make Trump's life hell, that's what I think they are aiming for. Of course, turn out matters but, if the right people don't come out, the Democrats or Republicans will lose and in a big way.

I assume you'll be voting for Pete Rohrman, Zurk :p

I've already cast my vote by mail for Phil Murphy.


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And well, that's no surprise, unless you had a change of heart and voted for Rohrman :p
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Postby Collatis » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:41 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Collatis wrote:I assume you'll be voting for Pete Rohrman, Zurk :p

I've already cast my vote by mail for Phil Murphy.


Damn skippy I am boy

And well, that's no surprise, unless you had a change of heart and voted for Rohrman :p

If I were to vote third party, I'd probably go for Gina Genovese.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:56 pm

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
Corrian wrote:A Republican? Getting elected in California right now? Funny.

Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout. Plus with some of the BS Jerry Brown has pulled with making knowingly spreading AIDS no longer a felony, and such can and would be a drag, while I do agree he has made some good moves this isnt one of them and i do think it could put him behind

Um, way more than just LA is blue in California. Mostly the north and a strip on the eastern side is red.
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:58 pm

Also, do we only have 2 governor races this year? Seems kinda small.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:58 pm

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
Corrian wrote:A Republican? Getting elected in California right now? Funny.

Well CA has voted for more Republican governors throughout its states history, and outside of LA and the other major cities the state is pretty damned red so it boils down on how bad is the immigration in South California and voter turnout. Plus with some of the BS Jerry Brown has pulled with making knowingly spreading AIDS no longer a felony, and such can and would be a drag, while I do agree he has made some good moves this isnt one of them and i do think it could put him behind


California has quickly gone from being a reliable red state to one of the most blue states in the country. It was very red in the 80s and even early 90s to some extent (see Pete Wilson and the anti immigration referendum). But since the 90s it has become more and more liberal, to the point where I would say that California is one of the few states where getting another GOP governor in is near impossible.

Yeah, I know about Arnold and all, but times were different then (plus he was a moderate).

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:59 pm

I would still take Arnold over almost any Republican right now.
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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:00 pm

Corrian wrote:I would still take Arnold over almost any Republican right now.


You and, well, probably most Americans.

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Postby Fauxia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:01 pm

Corrian wrote:I would still take Arnold over almost any Republican right now.
Makes sense, as he is a moderate
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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:03 pm

Fauxia wrote:
Corrian wrote:I would still take Arnold over almost any Republican right now.
Makes sense, as he is a moderate

He has pushed heavily for renewables, and ending gerrymandering in general. Two things I highly support.
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