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Who will win in the US governor elections?

Democrat sweep
90
48%
Republican sweep
19
10%
Dem in VA, GOP in NJ
3
2%
Dem in NJ, GOP in VA
29
16%
Dem in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
GOP in VA, not sure about NJ
5
3%
Dem in NJ, not sure about VA
24
13%
GOP in NJ, not sure about VA
0
No votes
Not sure about either
11
6%
 
Total votes : 186

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Arlenton
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:42 pm

Fun fact. More people voted for George Bush in California than in Texas. The same thing happened with McCain and Romney, despite Obama winning California with over 60% of the vote.

This did not happen with Trump because he shunned suburban SoCa Republicans.

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Postby Corrian » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:44 pm

Arlenton wrote:Fun fact. More people voted for George Bush in California than in Texas. The same thing happened with McCain and Romney, despite Obama winning California with over 60% of the vote.

This did not happen with Trump because he shunned suburban SoCa Republicans.

California is just a freaking huge state population wise. It has gotten insane.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:48 pm

Corrian wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Fun fact. More people voted for George Bush in California than in Texas. The same thing happened with McCain and Romney, despite Obama winning California with over 60% of the vote.

This did not happen with Trump because he shunned suburban SoCa Republicans.

California is just a freaking huge state population wise. It has gotten insane.

Politically it's one of the most interesting states too.

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Postby Goldenson » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Goldenson wrote:I hope John Cox gets elected as Governor of CA.

California votes for governor next year and there is no way a republican wins.

I know, but I'm looking at his policy, not his political affiliation. His policy is good.

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Postby Major-Tom » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:46 pm

Goldenson wrote:
San Lumen wrote:California votes for governor next year and there is no way a republican wins.

I know, but I'm looking at his policy, not his political affiliation. His policy is good.


Seems like he is solely focusing on economic issues. If he ran as a Democrat with the same positions, he'd have a shot. :lol:

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:20 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You mean unpopularity. How many seats to you think they will gain?


I should have worded that better...

Any who, that's tough to say. Despite being unpopular, Trump did make a dent in some blue states and had large gains in red ones, and it was because of this populist wave, which he hopes will protect him. The Democrats just need to control either the House or Senate to make Trump's life hell, that's what I think they are aiming for. Of course, turn out matters but, if the right people don't come out, the Democrats or Republicans will lose and in a big way.

I was referring to the New Jersey state legislature
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:22 am

Corrian wrote:Also, do we only have 2 governor races this year? Seems kinda small.

Because New Jersey and Virginia hold their elections the year after a Presidential election. Why thats the case I could not tell you.

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Postby Brituctam » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:27 am

Democrat sweep in NJ and VA, Democrat sweep in 2018.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:36 am

Brituctam wrote:Democrat sweep in NJ and VA, Democrat sweep in 2018.

I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:04 am

Polls are all over the place in Virginia, but a new Quinnipiac University poll has the Democrat with a 17-point lead in Virginia governor race

Dunno if this means anything since polls have been so all over the place in this state, but Jesus.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:05 am

Corrian wrote:
Brituctam wrote:Democrat sweep in NJ and VA, Democrat sweep in 2018.

I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.

There is likely to be significant gains in governorships and other statewide officers. state legislatures too. But thats next year. This year is New Jersey and Virginia along with many municipal and county elections.

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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:10 am

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.

There is likely to be significant gains in governorships and other statewide officers. state legislatures too. But thats next year. This year is New Jersey and Virginia along with many municipal and county elections.

I know about municipal and county elections *Looks at ballot on desk*
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:12 am

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is likely to be significant gains in governorships and other statewide officers. state legislatures too. But thats next year. This year is New Jersey and Virginia along with many municipal and county elections.

I know about municipal and county elections *Looks at ballot on desk*

Those are extremely important and turnout for them is usually abysmal. I hope its higher this year. in the last mayoral election in my city turnout was about 12 percent which is pathetic. Several major cites in my state are holding mayoral elections this year. Most of them are foregone conclusions as the primary is the real contest. Plus there are several high profile county executive races.
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Postby Brituctam » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:15 pm

Corrian wrote:
Brituctam wrote:Democrat sweep in NJ and VA, Democrat sweep in 2018.

I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.


I admit myself that it is indeed wishful thinking. I would like to see America embrace progressive values and repent from its mistakes in 2016, but Congress is going to be hard to win back. Like you stated, the House, maybe. But I know the Senate will most likely stay Republican. Now, as was already stated as well, I do believe that the Democrats will make big gains in governorships, state legislatures, and municipal elections. Where I live, which is Florida, I see a lot of momentum for the Democrats and we just might have our first Democrat governor since 1999. The current Republican governor BARELY got reelected back in 2014. The possible Democrat nominee is Gwen Graham, daughter of ex-Governor Bob Graham, who is very liked among Floridians. And a major influx of my fellow Puerto Ricans, who largely vote Democrat, will also shape the Florida election. I have faith in my people, Puerto Rican and Floridian. We'll see what happens.
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Postby Corrian » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:32 pm

Brituctam wrote:
Corrian wrote:I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.


I admit myself that it is indeed wishful thinking. I would like to see America embrace progressive values and repent from its mistakes in 2016, but Congress is going to be hard to win back. Like you stated, the House, maybe. But I know the Senate will most likely stay Republican. Now, as was already stated as well, I do believe that the Democrats will make big gains in governorships, state legislatures, and municipal elections. Where I live, which is Florida, I see a lot of momentum for the Democrats and we just might have our first Democrat governor since 1999. The current Republican governor BARELY got reelected back in 2014. The possible Democrat nominee is Gwen Graham, daughter of ex-Governor Bob Graham, who is very liked among Floridians. And a major influx of my fellow Puerto Ricans, who largely vote Democrat, will also shape the Florida election. I have faith in my people, Puerto Rican and Floridian. We'll see what happens.

Is the current Republican guy termed out? Because he was decently popular after the hurricane.

But yeah, I heard there were some pretty big shifts in Florida away from Trump.
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Postby Brituctam » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 pm

Yeah, Rick Scott is termed out. He did enjoy a nice bump in popularity after Irma, which aside from political differences, I commend his performance as well.

And it's true, many Trump supporters I know down here now repent voting for him.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:12 pm

Brituctam wrote:
Corrian wrote:I think Democrats will do well on the local level in a lot of areas. But Democrat sweep in 2018 is wishful thinking. Maaaybe the House, but the Senate is a likely no go.

Though there are other elections in 2018 they may sweep, too. Everything is important.


I admit myself that it is indeed wishful thinking. I would like to see America embrace progressive values and repent from its mistakes in 2016, but Congress is going to be hard to win back. Like you stated, the House, maybe. But I know the Senate will most likely stay Republican. Now, as was already stated as well, I do believe that the Democrats will make big gains in governorships, state legislatures, and municipal elections. Where I live, which is Florida, I see a lot of momentum for the Democrats and we just might have our first Democrat governor since 1999. The current Republican governor BARELY got reelected back in 2014. The possible Democrat nominee is Gwen Graham, daughter of ex-Governor Bob Graham, who is very liked among Floridians. And a major influx of my fellow Puerto Ricans, who largely vote Democrat, will also shape the Florida election. I have faith in my people, Puerto Rican and Floridian. We'll see what happens.

Im trying to have faith in people. This years elections will be the first big test of the national mood.

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:35 am

Corrian wrote:Polls are all over the place in Virginia, but a new Quinnipiac University poll has the Democrat with a 17-point lead in Virginia governor race

Dunno if this means anything since polls have been so all over the place in this state, but Jesus.

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Postby Trumptonium » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:45 am

No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:48 am

Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

NJ vs. Va racial demographics? They don't differ that much. Jersey is hugely multicultural.
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Postby Trumptonium » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:02 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

NJ vs. Va racial demographics? They don't differ that much. Jersey is hugely multicultural.


Demographics =/= Racial demographics.

Besides on that note whites in Maine are more Democrat than Hispanics in Florida.

NJ is less multicultural than VA, if we take the literalist meaning. New Jersey has a far greater tendency to have ethnic enclaves than Virginia.

Multicultural means 2% of the population is Italian, 2% German, 2% English, 2% French, 2% Polish, 2% Irish, 2% Spanish, 2% Mexican, 2% Portuguese, 2% Swedish or each ethnic group has a population percentage proportionate to their national share.

Multicultural does not mean New Jersey having cities where 50%+ of the population is Korean or Ashkenazi Jewish or there's a Little Bombay. That's ethnic ghettoisation.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:04 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

NJ vs. Va racial demographics? They don't differ that much. Jersey is hugely multicultural.


One of if not the most diverse state in the Union, from what I recall.

Also, no way in Hell NJ swings res, Christie is still hugely unpopular and they decided to run his Lt. Governor, the ads write themselves. Basically, nobody in NJ wants a de facto third term of Christie.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:59 am

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I should have worded that better...

Any who, that's tough to say. Despite being unpopular, Trump did make a dent in some blue states and had large gains in red ones, and it was because of this populist wave, which he hopes will protect him. The Democrats just need to control either the House or Senate to make Trump's life hell, that's what I think they are aiming for. Of course, turn out matters but, if the right people don't come out, the Democrats or Republicans will lose and in a big way.

I was referring to the New Jersey state legislature


Ah, that I don't know. However, I expect they will gain seats in the legislature easily given the high dislike for Christie.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:52 am

Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

...Why do you think New Jersey would even remotely want to vote for a Republican governor right now?
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Postby Collatis » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:15 am

Trumptonium wrote:No idea about the candidates and the public's view on them but I will shoot NJ for Reps and VA for Dems for demographic & socioeconomic reasons.

And what demographic and socioeconomic reasons are those?

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