North Korea sinks S. Korean Warship. oh f*ck

[Karsol]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

[Karsol]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

they were lost.

Is this the Great Wall of China tour? I heard you could shoot buffaloes if you brought your own rifles.

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

You don;t need compasses to tell direction, they could have waited until dark, phoned in for assistance or back track.

[New Kereptica]

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

Well trained and fucking enormous!

[Parthenon]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

No exaggeration whatsoever...

Iraq is an insurgency and a civil war, the actual standing army was defeated in less than a week. "Shock and awe"

[Greed and Death]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

the fun part of a second Korean war is that their capitals(and highest concentration of people) are in artillery range of each other.

[Soyut]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

I'm referring to your suggestion that "they will start shooting". Putting spies into the North is a totally different matter. The CIA has spies in Mexico and vice versa, that does not mean they will go into war tomorrow.

Armed commandos are not spies.

They're worse. If they're conducting military operations without declaration of war, they are worse than spies.

They are ... excuse me for using a bad word ... terrorists.

There is no universally agreed upon definition of what a terrorist or terrorism is.. That word is next to meaningless unless you want to frighten dumb people.

[Panzerjaeger]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

they were lost.

Is this the Great Wall of China tour? I heard you could shoot buffaloes if you brought your own rifles.

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

Really? I hadn't heard that part. Still wandering around in the dark is fucking stupid.

[The Lone Alliance]

Isn't Seoul already targeted by around 10,000 pre-sighted artillery pieces to begin with? (Well if so let's hope the artillery's rusted by now.

[Karsol]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

the fun part of a second Korean war is that their capitals(and highest concentration of people) are in artillery range of each other.

You think NK wouldn't move their workers before a large scale military operation?

[Nobel Hobos]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

they were lost.

Is this the Great Wall of China tour? I heard you could shoot buffaloes if you brought your own rifles.

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

And this was back in the seventies, before GLONASS or GPS came online?

Also, why not just move Seoul? They've had decades to do it. Just move the damn capitol, put the government money into some city further south. Even if nothing bad ever happens, surely S Korea would be better for decentralizing a bit ?

It's just plain arrogant to keep your capitol at the centre of a divided nation, where it would be if the two halves were one. Just like Berlin. Fucking stupid. Asking for trouble.

EDIT: Better example than Seoul or Berlin: Jerusalem. Asking for trouble. Picking a fight.

[Soyut]

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

Well trained and fucking enormous!

Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world before the gulf war. Doesn't mean shit. The US army fucking pwnz3s. fact.

[Greed and Death]

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

And this was back in the seventies, before GLONASS or GPS came online?

Also, why not just move Seoul? They've had decades to do it. Just move the damn capitol, put the government money into some city further south. Even if nothing bad ever happens, surely S Korea would be better for decentralizing a bit ?

It's just plain arrogant to keep your capitol at the centre of a divided nation, where it would be if the two halves were one. Just like Berlin. Fucking stupid. Asking for trouble.

I didn't even get a GPS thingy and I was in the most over funded military in the world. I was so sad. I always had to shoot my azimuth with a compass.

[Soyut]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

they were lost.

Is this the Great Wall of China tour? I heard you could shoot buffaloes if you brought your own rifles.

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

And this was back in the seventies, before GLONASS or GPS came online?

Also, why not just move Seoul? They've had decades to do it. Just move the damn capitol, put the government money into some city further south. Even if nothing bad ever happens, surely S Korea would be better for decentralizing a bit ?

It's just plain arrogant to keep your capitol at the centre of a divided nation, where it would be if the two halves were one. Just like Berlin. Fucking stupid. Asking for trouble.

you know seoul is bigger than new york right?

[Greater Americania]

I don't know. America's locked down in two wars right now and with a liberal President and Congress and thus isn't as eager to start new wars. South Korea stands no chance against the North on it's own, because of the North's "Military First" policies. However, an attack along the DMV is an act of war against America because of the American troops stationed there, which even the liberals would probably respond to militarily. Of course, they haven't attacked yet and the South Koreans and the North Koreans shoot at each other over land sometimes, so this could just turn into another blunder.

I say wait and see.

[Karsol]

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

Well trained and fucking enormous!

Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world before the gulf war. Doesn't mean shit. The US army fucking pwnz3s. fact.

Didn't help in 'nam

[Our Constitution]

The U.S. military is so powerful it doesn't even belong on this planet. Compared to the primitive humans of Earth the U.S. military is an advanced extraterrestrial fighting force that has been "pulling its punches" to not send you primitive beasts into a panic.

and its oh so true you don't even know.

[Greed and Death]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

the fun part of a second Korean war is that their capitals(and highest concentration of people) are in artillery range of each other.

You think NK wouldn't move their workers before a large scale military operation?

two problems with that.
1. it tips their hand, even more then the military massing on the boarder (which they do ever few years).
2. who is going to make the bullets for the long drawn out military operation ?
the factories don't move nearly as easily as the workers after all.

[Greed and Death]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

Not really South Korea has been caught slipping people into the North. Not that long ago a Commando Expedition was caught by DPRK border guards.

they were lost.

Is this the Great Wall of China tour? I heard you could shoot buffaloes if you brought your own rifles.

They were on patrol near the border and at the mountain made of Iron their compasses fucked up.

And this was back in the seventies, before GLONASS or GPS came online?

Also, why not just move Seoul? They've had decades to do it. Just move the damn capitol, put the government money into some city further south. Even if nothing bad ever happens, surely S Korea would be better for decentralizing a bit ?

It's just plain arrogant to keep your capitol at the centre of a divided nation, where it would be if the two halves were one. Just like Berlin. Fucking stupid. Asking for trouble.

you know seoul is bigger than new york right?

he means move the legislature and the blue house.

[Karsol]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

the fun part of a second Korean war is that their capitals(and highest concentration of people) are in artillery range of each other.

You think NK wouldn't move their workers before a large scale military operation?

two problems with that.
1. it tips their hand, even more then the military massing on the boarder (which they do ever few years).
2. who is going to make the bullets for the long drawn out military operation ?
the factories don't move nearly as easily as the workers after all.

Factory relocation can actually be quite simple., heck the Chinese did it in WWII

[Greater Americania]

Didn't help in 'nam

Ya wanna check the kill statistics on that one, sonny?

[Nogolieaha]

North Korea invading South Korea might happen.

But rest in peace for the sailors who have died

[The chrisman union]

Wow...this looks pretty serious. Anyone remember Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction? This sounds pretty similar.

[Greed and Death]

That is beside the point.

Not really Parthenon is quite correct there is nothing to stop a Shooting War from picking up right away. It is just a temporary interlude and at this point it is whoever blinks first that will start the shooting. This kind of daredevil provocation happens from both the South and the North.

I don't think you looked at the reality on the ground. The US and South Korea have been trying their utmost to pacify the North Koreans. Why? Because Seoul has too much to lose. It is within spitting distance of the North. In a fight, not only will it be inundated with refugees, the capital run the risk of being totally destroyed. This is the reason why there will never be a real war as long as the South can help it.

The North may keep on provoking, but the US and the South won't do anything drastic.

PACOM and the 7th Airforce would turn NK's military and government infrastructure into dust in less than a week... Hell, I guarantee they have the plans drawn up already.

Exaggeration much? poorly armed terrorists have taken 9 years so far.
And since NK has a quite well trained military and most likely getting high end AA from China, maybe even Russia...

the fun part of a second Korean war is that their capitals(and highest concentration of people) are in artillery range of each other.

You think NK wouldn't move their workers before a large scale military operation?

two problems with that.
1. it tips their hand, even more then the military massing on the boarder (which they do ever few years).
2. who is going to make the bullets for the long drawn out military operation ?
the factories don't move nearly as easily as the workers after all.

Factory relocation can actually be quite simple., heck the Chinese did it in WWII

That was with the Americans flying in raw materials, and finished products that would be easier to make in the US and ship in.

Moving an industrial center becomes much more complicated when you also have to shift the infrastructure around to get raw materials.

[New Kereptica]

Didn't help in 'nam

Ya wanna check the kill statistics on that one, sonny?

Ya wanna check the fact that we lost?

[Allbeama]

Come to America. War torn countries suck. Besides, this country needs more Asians.