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Postby The Emerald Legion » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 pm

Liriena wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
Pre-cursor was Moldbug back in 2006, what is currently recognized as it only came about around 2013/2014 with the rise of The Daily Stormer and The Right Stuff.

You mean this Daily Stormer? :lol2:

Yeah, you're winning so much you got ran out of the American internet. :rofl:


To be fair, that was a totally idiotic move. Not only does it give them a martyr and more to whinge on about, it opens up companies to being sued over the stuff they host.

That was not something to be celebrating at all. It's likely going to be the quite literal death of the internet as we know it.
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Postby Shikihara » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 pm

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Shikihara wrote:You have 60% of whites supporting you, but haven't actually accomplished anything?


Who is sitting in the Oval Office, fam? Where are those policies originating at? :)


A man who constantly changes his position based on what he thinks will make him popular and is hardly taken seriously by his own staff (who were bewildered by some of his actions, such as saying that he "consulted with his generals" on his sudden decree that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the army). Really, after you all lost Bannon in the White House, I don't see how you can claim that Trump is "your guy."

Also Donald Trump is the proud father of a Jewish woman and grandfather of her Jewish children. I really don't think he'd want to be associated with people who hero worship a man that would've put them in a gas chamber.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean this Daily Stormer? :lol2:

Yeah, you're winning so much you got ran out of the American internet. :rofl:


This Daily Stormer, and yes.

And please, do keep giving us martyrs.

"Martyrs"? :rofl:
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Postby Shikihara » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:22 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Liriena wrote:You mean this Daily Stormer? :lol2:

Yeah, you're winning so much you got ran out of the American internet. :rofl:


This Daily Stormer, and yes.

And please, do keep giving us martyrs.


It's really telling that your idea of a "martyr" is someone losing a website on the internet.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:22 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Let's see how long you keep it. Especially with those 2018 mid-terms coming up.


We kept it up until 1964, at least in part, and fell off for a bit. We're back now.

And what exactly was that link supposed to prove?


NSDSAP got utterly demolished in 1928. Five years later, guess who got power?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:22 pm

Liriena wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
This Daily Stormer, and yes.

And please, do keep giving us martyrs.

"Martyrs"? :rofl:


A lot of people on the far right see it that way, yes. Trying to drive them off has only strengthened them tbh.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:24 pm

Liriena wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
This Daily Stormer, and yes.

And please, do keep giving us martyrs.

"Martyrs"? :rofl:

and they call ANTIFA "white ISIS".
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:24 pm

Shikihara wrote:A man who constantly changes his position based on what he thinks will make him popular and is hardly taken seriously by his own staff (who were bewildered by some of his actions, such as saying that he "consulted with his generals" on his sudden decree that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the army). Really, after you all lost Bannon in the White House, I don't see how you can claim that Trump is "your guy."

Also Donald Trump is the proud father of a Jewish woman and grandfather of her Jewish children. I really don't think he'd want to be associated with people who hero worship a man that would've put them in a gas chamber.


So this leads to the best question of all: Is /ourguy/ in the Oval Office, or is the "Trump is a White Supremacist" narrative dead? You can have one, but you can't have both.

Even still, he's a useful tool utilizing the currents we're riding on, not the end game.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:25 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Let's see how long you keep it. Especially with those 2018 mid-terms coming up.


We kept it up until 1964, at least in part, and fell off for a bit. We're back now.

And what exactly was that link supposed to prove?


NSDSAP got utterly demolished in 1928. Five years later, guess who got power?

And where's the NSDSAP now? Where's the Confederacy for that matter? Where is this superior white race?

It seems like the most your lot has ever accomplished is giving most people ample reasons to make you the butts of a million jokes and cheap cannon fodder for the Western culture industries.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:26 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Let's see how long you keep it. Especially with those 2018 mid-terms coming up.


We kept it up until 1964, at least in part, and fell off for a bit. We're back now.

And what exactly was that link supposed to prove?


NSDSAP got utterly demolished in 1928. Five years later, guess who got power?

NS amazes me more and more each day. In one post you have:
  • supported segregation
  • supported racism
  • and supported the Nazis

It's amazing the capacity for hate and utter arrogance some people can have.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:27 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
We kept it up until 1964, at least in part, and fell off for a bit. We're back now.



NSDSAP got utterly demolished in 1928. Five years later, guess who got power?

NS amazes me more and more each day. In one post you have:
  • supported segregation
  • supported racism
  • and supported the Nazis

It's amazing the capacity for hate and utter arrogance some people can have.

Those three things tend to run together.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:27 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Martyrs"? :rofl:


A lot of people on the far right see it that way, yes. Trying to drive them off has only strengthened them tbh.

How though?
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:27 pm

Liriena wrote:And where's the NSDSAP now? Where's the Confederacy for that matter? Where is this superior white race?


Who crushed them? It certainly wasn't a bunch of Africans, fam. :)

It seems like the most your lot has ever accomplished is giving most people ample reasons to make you the butts of a million jokes and cheap cannon fodder for the Western culture industries.


And yet we keep coming back. Kinda invalidates your "mel brooks" strategy, doesn't it?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:27 pm

Herador wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:NS amazes me more and more each day. In one post you have:
  • supported segregation
  • supported racism
  • and supported the Nazis

It's amazing the capacity for hate and utter arrogance some people can have.

Those three things tend to run together.

Yes, but he explicitly stated it. Especially that "we" part.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:29 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Liriena wrote:And where's the NSDSAP now? Where's the Confederacy for that matter? Where is this superior white race?


Who crushed them? It certainly wasn't a bunch of Africans, fam. :)

It seems like the most your lot has ever accomplished is giving most people ample reasons to make you the butts of a million jokes and cheap cannon fodder for the Western culture industries.


And yet we keep coming back. Kinda invalidates your "mel brooks" strategy, doesn't it?

Nah. It was a bunch of Asians, blacks, whites, Jews, Maori, Arabs, etc. all working together to crush the Nazis. The beauty of what America is supposed to represent.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:30 pm

Liriena wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
A lot of people on the far right see it that way, yes. Trying to drive them off has only strengthened them tbh.

How though?


It feeds directly into their persecution narrative. They spin it as the left attacking people who are simply proud of their culture and history and whatnot and use that to draw in more white people because as Oil exporting people posted up there yes there are quite a lot of white people who feel they're being attacked nowadays.
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:30 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Herador wrote:Those three things tend to run together.

Yes, but he explicitly stated it. Especially that "we" part.

Well yeah, he's a fucking nazi, of course he'd say "we".
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:30 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Nah. It was a bunch of Asians, blacks, whites, Jews, Maori, Arabs, etc. all working together to crush the Nazis. The beauty of what America is supposed to represent.


Give the demographics of the Union Army in the Civil War, and the Allied Armies in WWII. 80% White overall or higher (90% for the Union), fam. :)
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Postby Shikihara » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:30 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Shikihara wrote:A man who constantly changes his position based on what he thinks will make him popular and is hardly taken seriously by his own staff (who were bewildered by some of his actions, such as saying that he "consulted with his generals" on his sudden decree that transgender people would not be allowed to serve in the army). Really, after you all lost Bannon in the White House, I don't see how you can claim that Trump is "your guy."

Also Donald Trump is the proud father of a Jewish woman and grandfather of her Jewish children. I really don't think he'd want to be associated with people who hero worship a man that would've put them in a gas chamber.


So this leads to the best question of all: Is /ourguy/ in the Oval Office, or is the "Trump is a White Supremacist" narrative dead? You can have one, but you can't have both.

Even still, he's a useful tool utilizing the currents we're riding on, not the end game.


Have I ever said that Trump was a white supremacist? I don't remember ever claiming that, could you point me out where?

Trump is about as "useful" to a political movement as a rotten tooth.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:"Martyrs"? :rofl:


A lot of people on the far right see it that way, yes. Trying to drive them off has only strengthened them tbh.


Antifa martyrs get run over by a vehicle.... White Nationalist martyrs lose a little website with nasty crude images and words.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Liriena wrote:How though?


It feeds directly into their persecution narrative. They spin it as the left attacking people who are simply proud of their culture and history and whatnot and use that to draw in more white people because as Oil exporting people posted up there yes there are quite a lot white people who feel they're being attacked nowadays.


Does anything not feed into it?
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Nah. It was a bunch of Asians, blacks, whites, Jews, Maori, Arabs, etc. all working together to crush the Nazis. The beauty of what America is supposed to represent.


Give the demographics of the Union Army in the Civil War, and the Allied Armies in WWII. 80% White overall or higher (90% for the Union), fam. :)

So even whites don't want them?

That must hurt.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:32 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It feeds directly into their persecution narrative. They spin it as the left attacking people who are simply proud of their culture and history and whatnot and use that to draw in more white people because as Oil exporting people posted up there yes there are quite a lot white people who feel they're being attacked nowadays.


Does anything not feed into it?


Ignoring them does a pretty damn good job of not giving them more fodder.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:32 pm

Shikihara wrote:Have I ever said that Trump was a white supremacist? I don't remember ever claiming that, could you point me out where?


General question?

Trump is about as "useful" to a political movement as a rotten tooth.


One, possibly two more SCOTUS picks, 100 positions open in other Judiciaries, and the ability to issue executive orders as well as order ICE crackdowns, for example.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:34 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Shikihara wrote:Have I ever said that Trump was a white supremacist? I don't remember ever claiming that, could you point me out where?


General question?

Trump is about as "useful" to a political movement as a rotten tooth.


One, possibly two more SCOTUS picks, 100 positions open in other Judiciaries, and the ability to issue executive orders as well as order ICE crackdowns, for example.

How do you think the Republican Party is going to fair in the mid-terms? And the blocking of that third travel ban must sting, man. My condolences.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:35 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:How do you think the Republican Party is going to fair in the mid-terms?


I'd imagine, given the map, we're going to be doing quite well.

And the blocking of that third travel ban must sting, man. My condolences.


Not much, we'll have the Supreme Court soon enough.
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