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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:52 pm

Torrocca wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Defeat also means victory against those who threaten you. If you want to be disingenuous at least try harder.


"Those uppity Negroes glared at me funnily, your honor! As such, you see, it wasn't a massacre I committed; oh no, oh no oh no oh no, it was merely a case of me righteously defeating them in the name of the white race!"

Again, what you're saying is basically this in disguise.

Pay attention to current events sometime. I won't fill in the entire thing for you.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:52 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
White people don't have any singular piece of land they could look at and declare to be their racial nation. Racial nationalism is bullhonkey.

Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

But the "white race" doesn't even originate from the European continent?
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Postby Trumptonium » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:53 pm

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United States of Red Dawn wrote:No, it's the definition of racial nationalist. There is a difference, no matter how much people close their ears and squeeze their eyes shut and proclaim that it isn't. It won't change because of tantrums.


White people don't have any singular piece of land they could look at and declare to be their racial nation. Racial nationalism is bullhonkey.


But I thought the Arabs had a divine right to claim Israel and the Jews are just landgrabbing occupiers?
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:54 pm

Socialista Mozambique wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

Gotta say, first time I've seen a White nationalist considering that Hispanics, Latins and Slavs are all true members of the White Race.

Never thought otherwise. Cuzz, ya know, not a Hitlerite.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:54 pm

Socialista Mozambique wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

Gotta say, first time I've seen a White nationalist considering that Hispanics, Latins and Slavs are all true members of the White Race.

"All those Hispanics and those other people are just Muslims who invaded dee duh dee".
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:55 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
White people don't have any singular piece of land they could look at and declare to be their racial nation. Racial nationalism is bullhonkey.

Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

You need some Contra in your life.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:55 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Socialista Mozambique wrote:Gotta say, first time I've seen a White nationalist considering that Hispanics, Latins and Slavs are all true members of the White Race.

"All those Hispanics and those other people are just Muslims who invaded dee duh dee".


ugh
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:55 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
White people don't have any singular piece of land they could look at and declare to be their racial nation. Racial nationalism is bullhonkey.

Europe as a continent. Nuff said.


Explain the non-whites living in Europe then.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:56 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:Pay attention to current events sometime. I won't fill in the entire thing for you.


I'll give that deflection a "C" it may have got the job done but I expect better.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:56 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

But the "white race" doesn't even originate from the European continent?

We are white because of Europe. I still consider it the cradle of white European civilization.

We left Africa behind long long ago.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:57 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:But the "white race" doesn't even originate from the European continent?

We are white because of Europe. I still consider it the cradle of white European civilization.

We left Africa behind long long ago.

I'm referring to the Caucuses lol. Speaking as an Iranian Caucasian.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Trumptonium wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
White people don't have any singular piece of land they could look at and declare to be their racial nation. Racial nationalism is bullhonkey.


But I thought the Arabs had a divine right to claim Israel and the Jews are just landgrabbing occupiers?


Who the fuck said this pointless bit of bullshit on this thread besides you?
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:57 pm

Torrocca wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Europe as a continent. Nuff said.


Explain the non-whites living in Europe then.

You must be joking. LOL :shock: Back around to everything I said before.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:58 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Explain the non-whites living in Europe then.

You must be joking. LOL :shock: Back around to everything I said before.


No, seriously. Explain it, considering Europe can't be a "white" continent if there's non-whites living on it.
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Postby The Sauganash Union » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Torrocca wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:You must be joking. LOL :shock: Back around to everything I said before.


No, seriously. Explain it, considering Europe can't be a "white" continent if there's non-whites living on it.


Is Africa a black continent?
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Postby Shikihara » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Liriena wrote:and it happened because conditions and interests at play made it pretty much innevitable.


I don't believe anything is truly inevitable, but see your point.
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Fair enough.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:59 pm

The Sauganash Union wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
No, seriously. Explain it, considering Europe can't be a "white" continent if there's non-whites living on it.


Is Africa a black continent?


I'd call it a green and tan continent, with smatterings of blue.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:59 pm

Liriena wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Europe as a continent. Nuff said.

You need some Contra in your life.

Seriously, y'all need Contra.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:00 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:We are white because of Europe. I still consider it the cradle of white European civilization.

We left Africa behind long long ago.

I'm referring to the Caucuses lol. Speaking as an Iranian Caucasian.

Caucasian and white, almost the same. One is a scientific classification (or used to be) the other is cultural and social. It couldn't matter less that it's a 'construct': Caucasian vs white European and descendants of it.
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Postby Shikihara » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:01 pm



You are but a dog and I am your master!

Reference to one of her videos where The Golden One unironically says this. No seriously.
Hegel wrote:“Spirit certainly makes war upon itself - consumes its own existence; but in this very destruction it works up that existence into a new form, and each successive phase becomes in its turn a material, working on which it exalts itself to a new grade..”

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Postby Trumptonium » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:02 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
But I thought the Arabs had a divine right to claim Israel and the Jews are just landgrabbing occupiers?


Who the fuck said this pointless bit of bullshit on this thread besides you?


So you don't think the Arabs have a genetically derived right to claim Israel, and thus the Jews there are there justly?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:02 pm

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I'm referring to the Caucuses lol. Speaking as an Iranian Caucasian.

Caucasian and white, almost the same. One is a scientific classification (or used to be) the other is cultural and social. It couldn't matter less that it's a 'construct': Caucasian vs white European and descendants of it.

So, would I count as white? :lol: I grew up in majority white country, speak English, etc. I'm "culturally white", right? Or is that not supreme enough?
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 pm

Big props to Scott. He's basically broadcasting to any would-be agitators that the police will be allowed to do their job, so hopefully there won't be a big disturbance at UF. One of my friends goes there so I hope she skips class that day just in case.

As for Spence himself, honestly who cares at this point? It's only his die hard core fans that are willing to seriously listen to him anymore and his ideas are self defeating anyway. Just let them work it out of their system.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 pm

Shikihara wrote:


You are but a dog and I am your master!

Reference to one of her videos where The Golden One unironically says this. No seriously.

Kiiiiiiiinky! :3

It's a pity The Golden One looks like a bootlegged Chris Hemsworth... and is a Nazi.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:05 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Caucasian and white, almost the same. One is a scientific classification (or used to be) the other is cultural and social. It couldn't matter less that it's a 'construct': Caucasian vs white European and descendants of it.

So, would I count as white? :lol: I grew up in majority white country, speak English, etc. I'm "culturally white", right? Or is that not supreme enough?

In some ways you're a distant cousin. A lot like the Indians who aren't Dravidian.
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