Richard Spencer and Modern Nazism: #NotMyAmerica

[Torrocca]

Sure would help your case if you didn't spew white supremacist rhetoric. Regardless of that I didn't.

There is nothing supremacist in this language. You want to hear supremacism, listen to Hitler again and again and again...obsess over that.

"Our race is thoroughly being antagonized by another race, therefore it's perfectly okay to kill the entirety of that other race so long as we call it 'self-defense'." - You, paraphrased. Plus most everything else you've said thus far in this thread.

Sure sounds supremacist-y to me.

[Donut section]

Good for him I guess.

[The Sauganash Union]

That will change as the WW2 generation disappears. I don't look forward to the people themselves dying because I have family of that era that I love dearly.

Not really. By the early 2010s the WW2 generations (Greatest and Silent) had long ceased to be a majority, but our mythologization was still strong. It's weakening now because some twits are so afraid of THE BLACKS and THE HOMOS and THE JEWS (whom THE LIBERALS support) that they think being a Nazi is cool.

We still have to deal with fuckin' baby boomers, the most dick-stroked generation in history.

[Conserative Morality]

I'd wager in that in the 70s people gave less of shit than do now (the casual racism at the time was off the charts, even among liberals). The video you referenced is from a movie, the Illinois Nazi march was through a Jewish neighborhood, so publicity was bound to happen.

The casual racism was off the charts back then, but the hatred of Nazis is probably fairly represented. We've long used Nazis in America as the antithesis of American values. They're shorthand for 'motherfuckers'. It's all about cultural perceptions, and popular movies and other pop culture are often a good reflection of such perceptions.

[United States of Red Dawn]

There is nothing supremacist in this language. You want to hear supremacism, listen to Hitler again and again and again...obsess over that.

"Our race is thoroughly being antagonized by another race, therefore it's perfectly okay to kill the entirety of that other race so long as we call it 'self-defense'." - You, paraphrased. Plus most everything else you've said thus far in this thread.

Sure sounds supremacist-y to me.

"The State is threatened by Imperalists and reactionary forces therefore it is justified to kill all the enemies of the State and invade and tyrannize their nations" ...much like the Soviet Union that you rationalize as being poor misunderstood folk, instead of one of the worst killers on the planet.

People like you cause others to move further and further into extremes.

[Conserative Morality]

We still have to deal with fuckin' baby boomers, the most dick-stroked generation in history.

Don't remind me.

[Farnhamia]

What are you on about?

It's an objective fact that the far-right parties Putin supports, are not Nazis. He's supporting them because they're are generally pro-Russia or apathetic, which would be an improvement over the current governments.

Not that you're necessarily right but Sharania is not being serious. It's a disingenuous nation and probably someone's puppet.

*** Warned for baiting. ***

[Torrocca]

"Our race is thoroughly being antagonized by another race, therefore it's perfectly okay to kill the entirety of that other race so long as we call it 'self-defense'." - You, paraphrased. Plus most everything else you've said thus far in this thread.

Sure sounds supremacist-y to me.

"The State is threatened by Imperalists and reactionary forces therefore it is justified to kill all the enemies of the State and invade and tyrannize their nations" ...much like the Soviet Union that you rationalize as being poor misunderstood folk, instead of one of the worst killers on the planet.

People like you cause others to move further and further into extremes.

Show me where I've ever, ever said that.

In the meantime, here's this from you if you wanna ask the same of me:

Is genocide OK? Yes or no?

Defeating another race and defending ourselves against another race that have proven their antagonism toward our race, yes.

That doesn't spell genocide.

[Liriena]

Is genocide OK? Yes or no?

Defeating another race and defending ourselves against another race that have proven their antagonism toward our race, yes.

That doesn't spell genocide.

So you're okay with genocide. Got it.

[New haven america]

Is genocide OK? Yes or no?

Defeating another race and defending ourselves against another race that have proven their antagonism toward our race, yes.

That doesn't spell genocide.

Thank you for proving you support genocide.

[United States of Red Dawn]

I'm more than happy to also not consider you to be such either. Caucasian maybe, but not white in the strictest sense.

The problem here? I' will probably get warned for saying the same thing you did.

This is why I'm not a white nationalist, as there are a lot of shitty white people out there, too.

I'm basically a "my 500+ people extended social circle" nationalist and fuck everyone else.

Who the hell said that every white person is a genius or saint? But there is still plenty worth preserving and protecting. As recently as the mid-60s the majority of whites, and others for that matter, thought of their race first as opposed to others. The demonic Left lunatics changed all that soon thereafter.

[Liriena]

Who is "us"?

Also, yes, we know that centrists have a tendency to side with the totalitarian right when in doubt. (See: supposed moderate centrists making excuses for Pinochet because Allende was mean)

People who support capitalism, are right-wing, or otherwise not on board with the whole far-left enterprise. The people who are normally killed or exiled when a socialist revolution succeeds. If we're somehow supposed to believe that Spencer could pull off the Final Solution, then why shouldn't we believe that the far-left, who's equally fond of violence and fantasies about revenge, would give us the bullet too? They already said that they would.

While his regime was authoritarian and committed numerous atrocities (that were not known at the time) it would not be accurate to call Pinochet a member of the "totalitarian right," and he was detained and indicted for trial in Great Britain. Your narrative of events seem more self-serving than they are in accordance with facts. Which is not a surprise, all truth can be reduced to the class struggle after all, am I right?

You know, you were making a good, compelling counter-argument... and then you had to ruin it with a very petty jab at my supposed ideals.

Also, it's nice that Great Britain went on to indicte Pinochet for trial. It almost makes up for Thatcher openly supporting him.

[United States of Red Dawn]

"The State is threatened by Imperalists and reactionary forces therefore it is justified to kill all the enemies of the State and invade and tyrannize their nations" ...much like the Soviet Union that you rationalize as being poor misunderstood folk, instead of one of the worst killers on the planet.

People like you cause others to move further and further into extremes.

Show me where I've ever, ever said that.

In the meantime, here's this from you if you wanna ask the same of me:

Defeating another race and defending ourselves against another race that have proven their antagonism toward our race, yes.

That doesn't spell genocide.

As long as you exhibit that flag that is how I will think of you.

[Torrocca]

This is why I'm not a white nationalist, as there are a lot of shitty white people out there, too.

I'm basically a "my 500+ people extended social circle" nationalist and fuck everyone else.

Who the hell said that every white person is a genius or saint? But there is still plenty worth preserving and protecting. As recently as the mid-60s the majority of whites, and others for that matter, thought of their race first as opposed to others. The demonic Left lunatics changed all that soon thereafter.

Ah yes, pushing for equality and civil rights = being demonic and having lunacy. Riiight.

Show me where I've ever, ever said that.

In the meantime, here's this from you if you wanna ask the same of me:

As long as you exhibit that flag that is how I will think of you.

And as long as you have that flag, I'll presume you support the Soviet Union ruling America.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Show me where I've ever, ever said that.

In the meantime, here's this from you if you wanna ask the same of me:

As long as you exhibit that flag that is how I will think of you.

What? :rofl:

[Liriena]

I'm more than happy to also not consider you to be such either. Caucasian maybe, but not white in the strictest sense.

The problem here? I' will probably get warned for saying the same thing you did.

This is why I'm not a white nationalist, as there are a lot of shitty white people out there, too.

I'm basically a "my 500+ people extended social circle" nationalist and fuck everyone else.

Well, I will give you some credit for your tribalism at least making some sense, rather than being based on something as historically baseless and dangerous as "white identity".

[United States of Red Dawn]

Defeating another race and defending ourselves against another race that have proven their antagonism toward our race, yes.

That doesn't spell genocide.

Thank you for proving you support genocide.

You have absolutely nothing to add the majority of the time; a lot like a few others in this thread. Sometimes you have to take the risk and speak the obvious. I'll take it.

[Chestaan]

Also, yes, we know that centrists have a tendency to side with the totalitarian right when in doubt. (See: supposed moderate centrists making excuses for Pinochet because Allende was mean)

You're aware the free & fair referendum on removing Pinochet in 1988 resulted in a near 50/50 vote, right?

Well I guess that just makes all his human rights abuses just fine then.

[United States of Red Dawn]

Who the hell said that every white person is a genius or saint? But there is still plenty worth preserving and protecting. As recently as the mid-60s the majority of whites, and others for that matter, thought of their race first as opposed to others. The demonic Left lunatics changed all that soon thereafter.

Ah yes, pushing for equality and civil rights = being demonic and having lunacy. Riiight.

As long as you exhibit that flag that is how I will think of you.

And as long as you have that flag, I'll presume you support the Soviet Union ruling America.

You don't grasp irony very well do you? It's more of a protest flag.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Thank you for proving you support genocide.

You have absolutely nothing to add the majority of the time; a lot like a few others in this thread. Sometimes you have to take the risk and speak the obvious. I'll take it.

You stated that you would put your own race (white) above another because of a perceived "thread". That's the definition of white supremacist.

[New haven america]

This is why I'm not a white nationalist, as there are a lot of shitty white people out there, too.

I'm basically a "my 500+ people extended social circle" nationalist and fuck everyone else.

Who the hell said that every white person is a genius or saint? But there is still plenty worth preserving and protecting. As recently as the mid-60s the majority of whites, and others for that matter, thought of their race first as opposed to others. The demonic Left lunatics changed all that soon thereafter.

Since when did want equality, civil rights, and helping those in need be considered demonic lunacy?

[Liriena]

Good for him I guess.

Is throwing white eggs at him good praxis? Asking for a friend.

[The Sauganash Union]

This is why I'm not a white nationalist, as there are a lot of shitty white people out there, too.

I'm basically a "my 500+ people extended social circle" nationalist and fuck everyone else.

Well, I will give you some credit for your tribalism at least making some sense, rather than being based on something as historically baseless and dangerous as "white identity".

My identity is centered around the company I keep. And I stick with my own.

[Torrocca]

Ah yes, pushing for equality and civil rights = being demonic and having lunacy. Riiight.



And as long as you have that flag, I'll presume you support the Soviet Union ruling America.

You don't grasp irony very well do you? It's more of a protest flag.

And you don't grasp very well that having my flag be a certain something on NS doesn't mean that's the certain something I support, do you?

[United States of Red Dawn]

You have absolutely nothing to add the majority of the time; a lot like a few others in this thread. Sometimes you have to take the risk and speak the obvious. I'll take it.

You stated that you would put your own race (white) above another because of a perceived "thread". That's the definition of white supremacist.

No, it's the definition of racial nationalist. There is a difference, no matter how much people close their ears and squeeze their eyes shut and proclaim that it isn't. It won't change because of tantrums.