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Kubumba Tribe
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:58 pm

Chespril wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Homosexuals are not stoned and everyone has equal rights in Al-Islam. But this is for the Islamic Discussion Thread 3. Like UIC said, stop showing your ignorance.

Now I'd like to talk to you and have a civil discussion about the Native Americans, but this ignorant and rude, condescending post blocks all of that. If you apologize, then I might reconsider.


No, they don't, Homosexuality is a capital crime throughout the Middle East due to Islam.
We don't need Al Taiqiyya here.

You got proof? Because not one word in al-Qur'an al-Kareem tells Muslims to kill homosexuals.
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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:That's what I thought. Which, again, is not from that period.


But tell me... Why do you actually have to defend the morality of your faith?

http://legacy.quran.com/2/190
http://legacy.quran.com/4/74
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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Chespril wrote:
But tell me... Why do you actually have to defend the morality of your faith?

Because of ignorance from people such as yourself.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Yeah. I don't know why I responded again. I'm out.

Oh yeah, thx for reminding me to put Chespril on my ignore list.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:59 pm

Actually, I'll keep Chespril off until he/she can show me Qur'anic evidence that Muslims should kill homosexuals.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Hirota » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:00 am

Pilarcraft wrote:
Hirota wrote:Common sense dictates that you'd have to be alive (or at least recently dead) and directly contributing to be one of the larger influences.

For example, sure, you can point to Erazmus Witelo largely copying Book of Optics and the impact Witelo's book had on the enlightenment, but thats two degrees of seperation, and 700 odd years.

the scholars themselves didn't have any influence on the Enlightenment :lol: it was their works that got translated lmao
You are confusing influence of any kind with "largest influence" as suggested by UIC. I don't deny an influence, but I do deny the overstating of that influence.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:09 am

Hirota wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:the scholars themselves didn't have any influence on the Enlightenment :lol: it was their works that got translated lmao
You are confusing influence of any kind with "largest influence" as suggested by UIC. I don't deny an influence, but I do deny the overstating of that influence.

"some of the largest influences" I tend to try to avoid absolutes.
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Postby Hirota » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:27 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Hirota wrote:You are confusing influence of any kind with "largest influence" as suggested by UIC. I don't deny an influence, but I do deny the overstating of that influence.

"some of the largest influences" I tend to try to avoid absolutes.
You could do with avoiding exaggeration whilst you are at it. ;)
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:29 am

Hirota wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:"some of the largest influences" I tend to try to avoid absolutes.
You could do with avoiding exaggeration whilst you are at it. ;)

It's not an exaggeration when the Hellenics and Muslims were virtually the only influences on them. Not too much influence was drawn from Indian, Sub-Saharan Africa, or Chinese scholars.
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