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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:05 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:oh my god, you again?
why don't you just leave if all you're going ot is call us all animals?

You have a problem with reading comprehension.

And you have a problem with POCs.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:05 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:This is nothing but hot air and doublespeak.


This coming from the person who thinks a victim needs to act demure and passive.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:06 am

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United States of Red Dawn wrote:Please direct me to a website that shows the Manifesto in full. I want to be guided.


It's on Project Gutenberg.

I think he should explain it to me in his own words with his own understanding of it.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:06 am

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So White Lives Matter is a leftist movement now?

It's not inherently right-wing either.
It's conceivable that there are some lefties in it, and that some members of this alleged group were left-wing.
As their politics are not stated, we can't know, and thus your position is unsupported.


So I guess that means that Black Lives Matter isn't inherently left wing either so people need to stop using BLM to judge the left in general.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:07 am

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Proctopeo wrote:It's not inherently right-wing either.
It's conceivable that there are some lefties in it, and that some members of this alleged group were left-wing.
As their politics are not stated, we can't know, and thus your position is unsupported.


So I guess that means that Black Lives Matter isn't inherently left wing either so people need to stop using BLM to judge the left in general.

I mean, it isn't. Just because you want to stop police brutality doesn't mean you're a liberal.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:07 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Closer to the truth is extreme Leftists who hate and resent same race couples, in particular those with disgustingly white children. (shudder)

Ugh, not this again...you got proof for this?

Are you implying that lefts can't be racist? Because when it comes down to it both sides have racist whether it's whites, blacks, hispanics, or asians. Political sides don't matter either. I don't doubt that some BLM members want slavery in reverse just to get their "vengeance on the whites", but those are far and few.

Also some groups like alt-lefts think genocides happening, so I don't doubt that they have other crazy ideas.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:08 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
It's on Project Gutenberg.

I think he should explain it to me in his own words with his own understanding of it.

That's not how you understand an ideology.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:It's not inherently right-wing either.
It's conceivable that there are some lefties in it, and that some members of this alleged group were left-wing.
As their politics are not stated, we can't know, and thus your position is unsupported.


So I guess that means that Black Lives Matter isn't inherently left wing either so people need to stop using BLM to judge the left in general.

You mean consistency should be the rule as opposed to double standards?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:08 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And what you say isn't?


I mean, I might be talking hot air and doublespeak but at least I am fucking consistent.

I really don't care which side talks shit and gets beaten for it. If you talk shit, and you get beaten, the only person to blame for that is yourself.

If you didn't want to get your ass beaten you shouldn't have been talking shit.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:09 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I mean, I might be talking hot air and doublespeak but at least I am fucking consistent.

I really don't care which side talks shit and gets beaten for it. If you talk shit, and you get beaten, the only person to blame for that is yourself.

If you didn't want to get your ass beaten you shouldn't have been talking shit.

Exactly.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:09 am

Vassenor wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:It's not inherently right-wing either.
It's conceivable that there are some lefties in it, and that some members of this alleged group were left-wing.
As their politics are not stated, we can't know, and thus your position is unsupported.


So I guess that means that Black Lives Matter isn't inherently left wing either so people need to stop using BLM to judge the left in general.

Sure.
There's better things to judge the left in general on anyway instead of a movement with a poor ability to look good and too many homophobes :)
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Postby Pilarcraft » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:10 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:oh my god, you again?
why don't you just leave if all you're going ot is call us all animals?

You have a problem with reading comprehension.


sorry. did I say Animal? I meant Freak and '...people...'.

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You mean that thing that White people have been doing to other ethnic groups for generations, but is only now wrong when the boot is on the other foot?

In other words, you just confirmed what I was saying; we have to be aware of how ..people..like you think and feel. I think that you're a freak. I can't hold that back any longer. The nanny mods. can ban me for a couple of weeks whatever.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:10 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Ugh, not this again...you got proof for this?

Are you implying that lefts can't be racist? Because when it comes down to it both sides have racist whether it's whites, blacks, hispanics, or asians. Political sides don't matter either. I don't doubt that some BLM members want slavery in reverse just to get their "vengeance on the whites", but those are far and few.

Also some groups like alt-lefts think genocides happening, so I don't doubt that they have other crazy ideas.

A group whose name implies that BLM if not all blacks need to STFU is leftist?
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Postby Tekeristan » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:11 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:oh my god, you again?
why don't you just leave if all you're going ot is call us all animals?

You have a problem with reading comprehension.

Strawmen?

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:11 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Are you implying that lefts can't be racist? Because when it comes down to it both sides have racist whether it's whites, blacks, hispanics, or asians. Political sides don't matter either. I don't doubt that some BLM members want slavery in reverse just to get their "vengeance on the whites", but those are far and few.

Also some groups like alt-lefts think genocides happening, so I don't doubt that they have other crazy ideas.

A group whose name implies that BLM if not all blacks need to STFU is leftist?

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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:12 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:You have a problem with reading comprehension.

And you have a problem with POCs.

I do, because I have a problem with people who have a problem with me. I won't bother to go into crime, terrorism, welfare, hate speech directed at whites, hate crimes directed at whites, and a deliberate attempt to promote black 'nationalism' and La Raza and various others at the expense of, and denial of, whites to do the same.

If you don't think that's true you are deliberately ignoring reality in the 21st century.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:13 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:A group whose name implies that BLM if not all blacks need to STFU is leftist?

Image

If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:14 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:(Image)

If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.

Sometimes posts only warrant "memepics" in response, Gauth.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:15 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Image

If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.


Why bother with more Gauth? It sums up a good reply nicely.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:15 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Image

If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.


I dunno, memepics put a sentient cheeto into the White House.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:16 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And you have a problem with POCs.

I do, because I have a problem with people who have a problem with me. I won't bother to go into crime, terrorism, welfare, hate speech directed at whites, hate crimes directed at whites, and a deliberate attempt to promote black 'nationalism' and La Raza and various others at the expense of, and denial of, whites to do the same.

If you don't think that's true you are deliberately ignoring reality in the 21st century.


What the fuck does people of color have to do with black nationalism and fucking La Raza?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:17 am

Vassenor wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.


I dunno, memepics put a sentient cheeto into the White House.

Memepics are a symptom of the shallowness in society that help put a reality television hack into the White House.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:17 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:I think he should explain it to me in his own words with his own understanding of it.

That's not how you understand an ideology.

LMAO, so, he should never interpret it to the best of his ability but instead say "here is something for you to read because I don't know how to explain it to you". If you always have to refer back to the material then you haven't learned much in the long run.
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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:18 am

Vassenor wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:If you can only respond with a memepic maybe you need to do some research on the web.


I dunno, memepics put a sentient cheeto into the White House.

Do you believe this ironically or unironically?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:20 am

Proctopeo wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I dunno, memepics put a sentient cheeto into the White House.

Do you believe this ironically or unironically?


I could ask the same question about at least half the stuff you come out with.
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