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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:33 am

Vassenor wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
Good for you.

Though it mustn't be a particularly good college if the tutors of the writing department in the English language are unable to read a short piece of text particularly referring to high-school classes.

Then again most people in Europe would agree that American colleges are basically equivalent to high school anyway, so you're excused.


Speaking as a graduate of a European university, I consider your premise to be bollocks.


You don't speak for anybody. I have received three telegrams from three different people sincerely advising that I should ignore you because of their past encounters with you. While you are not the most left-wing person on here, you are certainly the most infuriatingly ignorant and arrogant one. Change your attitude if you want anyone to take you seriously beyond your echo chamber.

I don't mute or put anyone on my ignore list out of principle but Christ am I tempted.
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Postby Oa Lesotho » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:33 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:Exactly. You leftists are claiming that I'm wrong yet you have no evidence I am. Therefore I am not obligated to provide evidence to prove you wrong.

Here's the deal buddy. You provide evidence that Blacks have lower IQ (I'm sure there is some outdated study from the 50's), and I'll share some evidence on how that's bullsh*t.

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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:35 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
Good for you.

Though it mustn't be a particularly good college if the tutors of the writing department in the English language are unable to read a short piece of text particularly referring to high-school classes.

Then again most people in Europe would agree that American colleges are basically equivalent to high school anyway, so you're excused.

Both of the high schools I've been to, in different parts of the country, have required you to cite sources.


...cite sources in what?

Do you write a thesis in high school requiring you to research and study in your own time before submitting it with the appropriate referencing?

A quote from a book in literature class is not citing a source.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:38 am

Trumptonium wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Both of the high schools I've been to, in different parts of the country, have required you to cite sources.


...cite sources in what?

Do you write a thesis in high school requiring you to research and study in your own time before submitting it with the appropriate referencing?

A quote from a book in literature class is not citing a source.


Any research or analytically based essay will involve citing sources.
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Postby Trumptonium » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:39 am

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:
...cite sources in what?

Do you write a thesis in high school requiring you to research and study in your own time before submitting it with the appropriate referencing?

A quote from a book in literature class is not citing a source.


Any research or analytically based essay will involve citing sources.


That doesn't answer the question.,. read it again.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:40 am

Trumptonium wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Any research or analytically based essay will involve citing sources.


That doesn't answer the question; read it again.


I wasn't trying to answer your question, but basically, yes.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:44 am

So what does any of this have to do with you refusing to provide evidence in support of your claims?
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:25 am

Trumptonium wrote:I've made my case. Feel free to take it or leave it.

Sovaal wrote:Usually if you want your argument taken seriously (and it's also just goddam manners) that you post your source when you cite something.
What, did you fail high school English? Or get someone else to write your papers for you?


I'm amazed if there's a country somewhere in the world where high school English requires you to cite papers.


It's "all of them". Not necessarily papers, but something other than mindless assertions.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:27 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Again, burden of proof.

Maybe next time don't declare me unfit for university-level schooling when you won't even acknowledge simple debate philosophy?

Stop avoiding the argument. Your refusal to refute him proves his claim right. Face the fact that blacks have lower iq on average then whites do.
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Hey guys, I did Trumptonium's homework for him.

And guess what? That still doesn't prove him wrong.


Erm, yeah, it actually literally does prove the claim that he made wrong.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:27 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is some sort of fallacy.



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Using a Donald Trump gif against me? You still have proven nothing about your claims.
Where do the blacks get their low iq from? I know that as a leftist, you are going to blame white people even if you yourself are white, but that doesn't explain the fact that blacks from rich backgrounds don'5 get high scores either.

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Yeah instead of countering my points, just dismiss them as propaganda. But what else should I expect coming from a self proclaimed "internationalist bastard" after all.

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All the IQ test measures is how good you are at the IQ test really.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. You are simply dismissing a truth you don't want to admit to being real. The truth of race realism.


Sorry, but I'd rather not be lectured on your innate belief that black people "naturally" have lower IQ scores when you yourself fail to avoid making simplistic grammatical errors in your writing such as failing to distinguish between then and than in your previous post.

Never mind the fact that your unsourced argument with no evidence whatsoever backing it that you expect me to find the evidence for is easily disproven by science.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:29 am

Trumptonium wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Both of the high schools I've been to, in different parts of the country, have required you to cite sources.


...cite sources in what?

Do you write a thesis in high school requiring you to research and study in your own time before submitting it with the appropriate referencing?

A quote from a book in literature class is not citing a source.


Erm, yes? Like five or six, IIRC.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Sovaal » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:03 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I'm pretty sure this is some sort of fallacy.




Using a Donald Trump gif against me? You still have proven nothing about your claims.

And you have?
Where do the blacks get their low iq from? I know that as a leftist, you are going to blame white people even if you yourself are white, but that doesn't explain the fact that blacks from rich backgrounds don'5 get high scores either.

Source?

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Are we arguing that races live in poverty cuz their inferior again? I thought we realized that made no fucking sense

Yeah instead of countering my points, just dismiss them as propaganda. But what else should I expect coming from a self proclaimed "internationalist bastard" after all.

You could actually try to have a civil conversation, and y'know, site sources.

Vassenor wrote:
All the IQ test measures is how good you are at the IQ test really.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. You are simply dismissing a truth you don't want to admit to being real. The truth of race realism.

If you're so confident that it's the truth, post some goddam sources.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:07 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:Exactly. You leftists are claiming that I'm wrong yet you have no evidence I am. Therefore I am not obligated to provide evidence to prove you wrong.

Burden of proof shifting. we're not supposed to prove you wrong. you have to prove yourself right. You're by default wrong unless you can give valid sources (preferably, peer assessed and peer reviewed, and accepted by the academic community.)
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:09 am

Also,

>Race Realism

Isn't that just a fancy way of saying "I'm not a racist, but..."?
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Postby Pilarcraft » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:20 am

Vassenor wrote:Also,

>Race Realism

Isn't that just a fancy way of saying "I'm not a racist, but..."?

word of advice. don't use Rational Wiki as a source if you don't want the right to use Breibart as one.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:21 am

Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So let's see your evidence then. After all that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Exactly. You leftists are claiming that I'm wrong yet you have no evidence I am. Therefore I am not obligated to provide evidence to prove you wrong.

Post some evidence to back up your racist claims.

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Postby Tahinar Tribes » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:33 am

Trumptonium wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Speaking as a graduate of a European university, I consider your premise to be bollocks.


You don't speak for anybody. I have received three telegrams from three different people sincerely advising that I should ignore you because of their past encounters with you. While you are not the most left-wing person on here, you are certainly the most infuriatingly ignorant and arrogant one. Change your attitude if you want anyone to take you seriously beyond your echo chamber.

I don't mute or put anyone on my ignore list out of principle but Christ am I tempted.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:35 am

Trumptonium wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Speaking as a graduate of a European university, I consider your premise to be bollocks.


You don't speak for anybody. I have received three telegrams from three different people sincerely advising that I should ignore you because of their past encounters with you. While you are not the most left-wing person on here, you are certainly the most infuriatingly ignorant and arrogant one. Change your attitude if you want anyone to take you seriously beyond your echo chamber.

I don't mute or put anyone on my ignore list out of principle but Christ am I tempted.


Which is interesting because I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone except myself.

Besides, it's no water off my back if you chose not to debate with me. It's just a sign you're more interested in building your own echo chamber really.
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Postby Hirota » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:45 am

Torrocca wrote:What are your thoughts, NSG?
Good, let everyone see how stupid his ideology is, and hopefully no-one will stoop to thuggery to stop him looking stupid.

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Speaking as a graduate of a European university, I consider your premise to be bollocks.


As a former academic with a US undergraduate degree, two UK postgraduate degrees, and a couple of decades of experience in the academic sector on both sides of the Atlantic (and Australia), perhaps I can add some nuance to this slightly odd debate.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:08 am

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Anarcho capitalist utopia wrote:Stop avoiding the argument. Your refusal to refute him proves his claim right. Face the fact that blacks have lower iq on average then whites do.
And guess what? That still doesn't prove him wrong.


Obviously you didn't read the article, or you would understand all of the confounding variables at play, as well as the authors' disagreement with the idea these differences are due to race.

But hey, racist an-cap account made four days ago. Seems legit.

Who's also a holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:10 am

Trumptonium wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Speaking as a graduate of a European university, I consider your premise to be bollocks.


You don't speak for anybody. I have received three telegrams from three different people sincerely advising that I should ignore you because of their past encounters with you. While you are not the most left-wing person on here, you are certainly the most infuriatingly ignorant and arrogant one. Change your attitude if you want anyone to take you seriously beyond your echo chamber.

I don't mute or put anyone on my ignore list out of principle but Christ am I tempted.

Same here. Sometimes it just isn't worth it.
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Postby Tekeristan » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:11 am

Thermodolia wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Obviously you didn't read the article, or you would understand all of the confounding variables at play, as well as the authors' disagreement with the idea these differences are due to race.

But hey, racist an-cap account made four days ago. Seems legit.

Who's also a holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer.

A racist nazi?
Who would of guessed?

Really all you can do is laugh at them. How can someone get so lost?

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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:15 am

Tekeristan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Who's also a holocaust denier and a Nazi sympathizer.

A racist nazi?
Who would of guessed?

Really all you can do is laugh at them. How can someone get so lost?

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