Stance on Capitalism and Communism

[Las Vegas Strip]

Here you can discuss how you feel about Capitalism and Communism.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Hello and welcome!

Nice to see you made a thread, however you need a lot more detail and substance to make a thread work. You have to have a debate or argument point, not just: "talk about capitalism and communism." You need to give us a reason to debate, and you have to share your opinion on the subject.

Good luck!

[Las Vegas Strip]

Hello and welcome!

Nice to see you made a thread, however you need a lot more detail and substance to make a thread work. You have to have a debate or argument point, not just: "talk about capitalism and communism." You need to give us a reason to debate, and you have to share your opinion on the subject.

Good luck!

I prefer Capitalism. We should debate so we can get an idea of what NationStates likes and dislikes.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Hello and welcome!

Nice to see you made a thread, however you need a lot more detail and substance to make a thread work. You have to have a debate or argument point, not just: "talk about capitalism and communism." You need to give us a reason to debate, and you have to share your opinion on the subject. :)

Good luck!

I prefer Capitalism. We should debate so we can get an idea of what NationStates likes and dislikes.

He's saying you need to improve your OP. At the moment, your OP would be considered spam.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Hello and welcome!

Nice to see you made a thread, however you need a lot more detail and substance to make a thread work. You have to have a debate or argument point, not just: "talk about capitalism and communism." You need to give us a reason to debate, and you have to share your opinion on the subject.

Good luck!

I prefer Capitalism. We should debate so we can get an idea of what NationStates likes and dislikes.

All right, but you need to edit your opening post.

"I prefer Capitalism for reasons X, Y, Z, and I dislike Communism because of reasons A, B, C. What do you think?"

Something as simple as this would do, but you have to give reasons in your opening post for your opinion.

[Petrolheadia]

I prefer capitalism over communism.

While I find some good qualities in the idea of communism, it usually turns out as an oppressive bastardization of itself. Capitalism seems a lot less prone to such corruption, as long as you regulate it properly.

[Destructive Government Economic System]

The problem with Communism is the fact that densely-populated countries are filled with diverse amounts of people. Communism advocates for a common goal between all of those people, and to bring such diverse amounts of people under one set of rules or goals is next to impossible.

The world we live in today is just too different to unify under only one system, especially under one that does not allow economic freedom for both corporations and consumers alike.

[Tokora]

I personally like Trotskyism, Titoism, and Castroism. I really feel like Trotskyism could've worked and before Yugoslavia fell to pieces Titoism was very successful.

[Saiwania]

I'd say that overall, Capitalism works while Communism doesn't as an economic system if the objective is to create material wealth and progress. But both are imperfect systems. An ideal society probably has elements of both private enterprise and government intervention, if there are so many variables to take into account.

The biggest weakness with Capitalism appears to be how it fails to address externalities to such an extent that it wrecks the environment and such resource extraction probably will prove unsustainable in the long run.

[Haggeliania]

**Inhale**

AHEM

I, myself, will NEVER fully support Capitalism or Communism, because in both ideologies the hierarchy is what matters, the people are either unimportant consumers or wheat-producing marionettes and we have seen that very clearly thought the 20th and the 21st century, while some say that "Stalin didn't exactly practices true communism" or "Poverty and corruption in Africa is not the true face of capitalism" I think both sides are wrong because the people that follow these ideologies had and have chosen the people that have done these horrible things, the USSR and 50's China were exactly how communism could work, sub-branches like "Stalinism" or "Maoism" are just random tags placed by just a few minor tweaks of the communist system, nothing significant. The true purpose of these tags by MY opinion is to devide humans even further down. The illusion given that the worker actually controls the country when in reality communism can clearly show that the totalitarian state is using the people for its own wealth, a person that controls wealth the STATE itself has limited will be taken from him and devided to "other poorer people", that CLEARLY has never happend in any communist state that ever existed, that bit of more wealth a person had never went to other people, only the government instead. On the other hand, capitalism is dividing people by wealth and by "law", the corruption will always be there by the bankers, by the corporations and by the government to suck off of useless fat consumers, where they have the illusion that THEY control "their" country (e.g. United States) when in reality the people are brainwashed to not go against the TRUE country, the alliance of the CORPORATIONS and the GOVERNMENT, BUT, capitalism has a significant mistake, today's capitalism will just NOT work if there wasn't for globalism, BOTH trading resources AND sucking off of poorer countries are the vital laws of capitalism no one talks about, if we take a look at europe right now, we'll see a continent devided into the north and the south, why? Because the colonial era is over, capitalist countries NEED to suck other countries either by war or by ths globalist banks, in an economical war between the north and south Europe in the 90's you probably never heard, the north prevailed and the south is now the new Africa, countries like Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain, lost that war and now they're suffering the consequences, if you're European you know exactly what im taking about. To leave all that ramble behind, I believe ideologies are here on the purpose to.eradicate and devide humanity, yes, call me hypocrite for believing this and still be a self proclaimed national conservative, but I can't avoid the truth as much as I don't want to believe it,

Neither do you.

**Exhale**

[Bakery Hill]

Capitalism is unpatriotic and degenerate and needs to be phased out.

[Petrolheadia]

Capitalism is unpatriotic and degenerate and needs to be phased out.

Explain.

[Bakery Hill]

Capitalism is unpatriotic and degenerate and needs to be phased out.

Explain.

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

[Petrolheadia]

Explain.

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

What if we regulate capitalism?

[The Islands of Versilia]

Both capitalism and communism/Socialism have merits and work differently depending on the people who adopt either of the ideologies.

I am fine with either, provided it works out for the people but I prefer social democracy or left-wing economics.

[Ostroeuropa]

Capitalism is unpatriotic and degenerate and needs to be phased out.

Exactly my sentiments.
Capitalism leads to boom and bust cycles that harm the nation and its citizens.
The "failure to launch" generation resulting from the housing crisis for instance shows the social and cultural decay that capitalism causes.

It is beyond merely fair or unfair, it causes civilizations to become weakened and sick.

[Haggeliania]

Explain.

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

1. Communism supporting culture more than capitalism is the stupidest thing I've heard, like damn. both capitalism and communism are against culture, please.

2. When did communism showed "people's interest" in this world? N e v e r. Only the interests of the totalitarian regime ruling.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

What if we regulate capitalism?

Base determines superstructure. You can only mitigate the harmful effects of a system, you can't get rid of them entirely, and even your attempts to mitigate can rot away because the real motivation of society would still remain profit.

[Bakery Hill]

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

What if we regulate capitalism?

If you don't confront and neutralised entrenched interests, they'll only regain their strength at a later date. See stagflation and the erosion of the welfare state. "Regulation" is an armistice at best.

[The Widening Gyre]

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

What if we regulate capitalism?

"What if we regulate this dose of heavy metals I'm about to give you? Then it won't be so bad right?"

[Bakery Hill]

What if we regulate capitalism?

Base determines superstructure. You can only mitigate the harmful effects of a system, you can't get rid of them entirely, and even your attempts to mitigate can rot away because the real motivation of society would still remain profit.

This as well.

[The Portland Territory]

No me gusto both, but prefer Capitalism

Well I mean, I support a very distant variant of Capitalism, but modern Neoliberalism has to go

[The Portland Territory]

Explain.

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

^^^^^

Fucking this.

[Bakery Hill]

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

1. Communism supporting culture more than capitalism is the stupidest thing I've heard, like damn. both capitalism and communism are against culture, please.

2. When did communism showed "people's interest" in this world? N e v e r. Only the interests of the totalitarian regime ruling.

This is just whataboutism.

[Ostroeuropa]

No me gusto both, but prefer Capitalism

Well I mean, I support a very distant variant of Capitalism, but modern Neoliberalism has to go

National capitalism is preferable to neoliberal capitalism, this much is true.

Capitalism's only principle is profit. This comes at the cost of your society and its culture and the immediate interests of the people.

^^^^^

Fucking this.

Exactly.
Advertisements are not art.
A supermarket is not culture.