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What is your race?

Asian ("Far East")
33
8%
Asian ("Middle East")
9
2%
Black
11
3%
Native American
7
2%
Pacific Islander
3
1%
White
288
66%
(Hispanic/Latinx)
15
3%
Mixed Nonwhite
8
2%
Mixed Partially White
62
14%
 
Total votes : 436

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[New Poll] What is your race?

Postby Siornor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:32 am

Not sure if this has ever been done here before, but the "Is it racist?" thread made me wonder exactly what kinds of ratios we have here between different races, especially between white folks and POC.

Some of the poll options may seem a bit unorthodox; the interest here is more focused on social interactions between various races on these forums than any stricter biological definitions, so technically the question is more "Are you a person of color or not, and how do you identify?"

Feel free to discuss if you wish – since the poll is anonymous, there's no pressure to share any of your identity or to get into discussion, but if you want to, then go ahead. If you are so inclined, I think it could be interesting to hear some opinions on the race ratios on these forums and how they might affect our discussions of race-related issues.

Personally, I live in America where race relations are tense most of the time and white people are a clear dominant majority - whether or not you consider that a bad thing, it's the truth - and I wonder what those of you from America have experienced here and especially what those of you from other countries (perhaps where white people are not the majority) might have experienced.

If you do choose to join the discussion, just some basic guidelines and things to remember:
- Don't be racist*
- Remember that you can speak your mind but that anyone else has the right to refute you
- Keep an open mind and you just might learn something
- Do not speak for the experiences of other individuals or for identities that are not your own, and
- Do not expect someone to answer for their entire race
- Don't dominate the discussion please, especially if you and people backing you up on anything are in the majority (if we don't get to hear from every perspective then there's no point)
- If someone tells you you've done/said something racist or otherwise offensive, especially if you are in the majority (either on here or irl), stop and consider what they've said seriously before furiously typing a rebuttal.
- If you're stating opinion, make sure that you do it as an opinion and not a statement (e.g. "I think America is the best country", not "America is the best country")
- This is a discussion, not an argument.

*If you are racist, or want to share an opinion that could be construed as racist, consider whether it will have any constructive impact on the discussion. If it's something people can discuss, go right ahead, but don't post racist rhetoric if it's just going to break down the discussion.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:37 am

I mean, that right there is a complicated question. I'm Iranian. To the average white person, I'm a "brown person". But on the flip side, I'm more "Caucasian" than most white people. What would you consider me?
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:45 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, that right there is a complicated question. I'm Iranian. To the average white person, I'm a "brown person". But on the flip side, I'm more "Caucasian" than most white people. What would you consider me?

Technically Aryan? From long long ago.
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United States of Red Dawn wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, that right there is a complicated question. I'm Iranian. To the average white person, I'm a "brown person". But on the flip side, I'm more "Caucasian" than most white people. What would you consider me?

Technically Aryan? From long long ago.

I mean, yeah. Iran literally means "land of the Aryans". But is Aryan actually considered white by y'all? I definitely don't meet Hitler's image of a perfect Aryan, being dark skinned, brown eyed, and black haired.
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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Technically Aryan? From long long ago.

I mean, yeah. Iran literally means "land of the Aryans". But is Aryan actually considered white by y'all? I definitely don't meet Hitler's image of a perfect Aryan, being dark skinned, brown eyed, and black haired.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:50 am

Okay. Now, the poll is fucking me up. Middle East falls under Asia.
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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Technically Aryan? From long long ago.

I mean, yeah. Iran literally means "land of the Aryans". But is Aryan actually considered white by y'all? I definitely don't meet Hitler's image of a perfect Aryan, being dark skinned, brown eyed, and black haired.

Don't ask me what Hitler would think. He was a purist and fanatic.

Caucasian is white, but not European Nordic and all the other subsets of European white. That's it. {shrug}
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Postby Siornor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:54 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, that right there is a complicated question. I'm Iranian. To the average white person, I'm a "brown person". But on the flip side, I'm more "Caucasian" than most white people. What would you consider me?


That's a good question, actually something I've questioned before. My self-described "inclusive, diverse community" would define you simply as Asian, but so many disputes have arisen from that in my experience that for "Asian race" further specification is generally require.

I amended the poll to include two options for Asian, although I'm sorry to say I didn't realize that this would reset the results, so all previous votes got canceled and everyone will have to vote again. I'm still not totally satisfied as in the past I have heard complaints from Indians and other "Central Asians" that they don't fit into either category. Thoughts?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:56 am

Siornor wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, that right there is a complicated question. I'm Iranian. To the average white person, I'm a "brown person". But on the flip side, I'm more "Caucasian" than most white people. What would you consider me?


That's a good question, actually something I've questioned before. My self-described "inclusive, diverse community" would define you simply as Asian, but so many disputes have arisen from that in my experience that for "Asian race" further specification is generally require.

I amended the poll to include two options for Asian, although I'm sorry to say I didn't realize that this would reset the results, so all previous votes got canceled and everyone will have to vote again. I'm still not totally satisfied as in the past I have heard complaints from Indians and other "Central Asians" that they don't fit into either category. Thoughts?

Did you mean to put "Latinx" and not Latino?
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Postby Siornor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:58 am

United States of Red Dawn wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, yeah. Iran literally means "land of the Aryans". But is Aryan actually considered white by y'all? I definitely don't meet Hitler's image of a perfect Aryan, being dark skinned, brown eyed, and black haired.

Don't ask me what Hitler would think. He was a purist and fanatic.

Caucasian is white, but not European Nordic and all the other subsets of European white. That's it. {shrug}


Yeah, I think that for the most part nowadays, "Aryan" in terms of race in this context is considered an obsolete term. Generally when we talk about race in a social context people are treated based on assumptions made due to their skin color, so technically "Aryan" folks from Iran and it's region are often considered POC.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:59 am

I am white. or, more accurately, Caucasian. this is against the common expectation of my nation (Iran), where many people are in fact Caucasian (Though not as pale as many people in europe), rather than of Semite origin like Arabs and Jews, or of Asian origin like Turks or Afghanis.
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Postby Siornor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:01 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Did you mean to put "Latinx" and not Latino?


Yes, "Latinx" is a gender-inclusive term, since the -o ending in "Latino" technically attaches the term to the male gender.
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Postby Pilarcraft » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:02 am

Siornor wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Don't ask me what Hitler would think. He was a purist and fanatic.

Caucasian is white, but not European Nordic and all the other subsets of European white. That's it. {shrug}


Yeah, I think that for the most part nowadays, "Aryan" in terms of race in this context is considered an obsolete term. Generally when we talk about race in a social context people are treated based on assumptions made due to their skin color, so technically "Aryan" folks from Iran and it's region are often considered POC.

Hitler was just wrong. I mean, there's no debate on that. Scientifically speaking, based on known History Aryan isn't even a race at all. it's a social standing among ancient Nomads who ended up settling India and Iran (possibly, they traveled through iran to europe to stop there after reaching the huge body of water west of that)
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:02 am

Siornor wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Did you mean to put "Latinx" and not Latino?


Yes, "Latinx" is a gender-inclusive term, since the -o ending in "Latino" technically attaches the term to the male gender.

I mean, it also simply provides the neutral term. Like, niños for multiple children of mixed gender.
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Postby Siornor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:08 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, it also simply provides the neutral term. Like, niños for multiple children of mixed gender.


I suppose that is true, I don't know much Spanish at all so I couldn't speak to that. In other race-related discussions and events etc. that I've attended that's generally the term used. I don't know if it has something to do with nonbinary genders or maybe if people formulated a strong argument for Latinx over Latino but that was the reasoning that was given to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I'll look into it.
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Postby The Anti-Social Socialists » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:13 am

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Postby Shonan-to » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:19 am

I'm ethnically Malay, albeit with distant Chinese, Vietnamese and Arab ancestry.

What would be the 'Malay' ethnic group be represented by in the poll? East Asian seems to be the closest imo.
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