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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:20 am

Minoa wrote:I should point out that the first time I came across the term ‘gaydar’ was when it was used abusively by some far-right hate website. This is why I am quite cautious about the idea right now.


Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:24 am

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Minoa wrote:I should point out that the first time I came across the term ‘gaydar’ was when it was used abusively by some far-right hate website. This is why I am quite cautious about the idea right now.


Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.

Or he is a non native english user. Those of us born to different languages tend to know of the same things but under different names. And when we hear of the english word for them in an odd context we rightfully get the idea that in the english speaking world that word carries extra baggage from said context. Which it often does. Like, you americans often attach all sorts of hateful things to the oddest of behaviors and terms like painting ones face black because of your odd cultural context.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:30 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Minoa wrote:I should point out that the first time I came across the term ‘gaydar’ was when it was used abusively by some far-right hate website. This is why I am quite cautious about the idea right now.


Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.


I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:31 am

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Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.


I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.

I do not understand why you are saying what you are saying.

Why would it be disturbing? How can a word be disturbing if the underlying concept is not?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:36 am

Purpelia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.

I do not understand why you are saying what you are saying.

Why would it be disturbing? How can a word be disturbing if the underlying concept is not?


Its just how it SOUNDS. I can't quite explain it or put my finger on it. But if I were gay and someone were to talk about a "Gaydar" in front of me I'd be put off.
I'd be less put off if they discussed (without referring to a "Gaydar") if it's possible to tell whether someone is gay or not with accuracy.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Its just how it SOUNDS. I can't quite explain it or put my finger on it. But if I were gay and someone were to talk about a "Gaydar" in front of me I'd be put off.

That's odd and irrational, but understandable. I will admit to having a similar experience with some other word. Like when ever someone uses the prefix cis- it just makes me cringe as if live roaches were crawling under my skin.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:10 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Minoa wrote:I should point out that the first time I came across the term ‘gaydar’ was when it was used abusively by some far-right hate website. This is why I am quite cautious about the idea right now.


Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.

Well, I have been isolated for some time due to my health, with the internet as the only link to the outside.
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:24 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I do not understand why you are saying what you are saying.

Why would it be disturbing? How can a word be disturbing if the underlying concept is not?


Its just how it SOUNDS. I can't quite explain it or put my finger on it.

I have a similar reaction to the word moist.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:30 am

Minoa wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.

Well, I have been isolated for some time due to my health, with the internet as the only link to the outside.


Yes, you've mentioned that a number of times. Along with a vision of a rampant far right and the need to limit free speech to curtail an imminent threat to liberal democracy, these are the two primary thematic thrusts of your posts.

Which raises interesting questions as to how you've come to these conclusions about the outside world in general. Have you found fascists floating miniaturized in your breakfast cereal? Bathroom spiders with their legs splayed into the shape of a swastika, eyes pleadingly warning you about the danger beyond the walls?
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:32 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Which raises interesting questions as to how you've come to these conclusions about the outside world in general. Have you found fascists floating miniaturized in your breakfast cereal? Bathroom spiders with their legs splayed into the shape of a swastika, eyes pleadingly warning you about the danger beyond the walls?

More likely it's simply the result of being exposed to the internet and its rampant partisan insanity. Like if all your available sources of information are telling you Trump is Hitler and the moon is made of cheese and you newer go outside to check odds are that's what you're going to believe.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:14 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Minoa wrote:Well, I have been isolated for some time due to my health, with the internet as the only link to the outside.


Yes, you've mentioned that a number of times. Along with a vision of a rampant far right and the need to limit free speech to curtail an imminent threat to liberal democracy, these are the two primary thematic thrusts of your posts.

Which raises interesting questions as to how you've come to these conclusions about the outside world in general. Have you found fascists floating miniaturized in your breakfast cereal? Bathroom spiders with their legs splayed into the shape of a swastika, eyes pleadingly warning you about the danger beyond the walls?

This post has gone too far for me. I'm out of this thread before it overwhelms me.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:18 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Its a very common term. Sometimes you make us wonder if you're just incredibly sheltered or running a parody account.


I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.

Maybe because me and San Lumen, who are both gay, don't see it as offensive. Honestly to me the word "queer" is way more offensive than "gaydar"
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:19 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.

Maybe because me and San Lumen, who are both gay, don't see it as offensive. Honestly to me the word "queer" is way more offensive than "gaydar"

Honestly, I've only ever heard gaydar used in situations where the person being refered to is obviously gay.
As in, currently has their tongue stuck down the throat of a member of the same sex.
Never heard it used in a serious context.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:21 am

BonziNation wrote:Well to be honest most gay people I've seen have an effeminate touch to their voice. They also dress a bit more effeminately (still avoiding exclusively female clothes, ie dresses, halter tops, etc).

So I would say yes, it does (based on my personal experiences).

Imperium Sidhicum wrote:If the homosexuals that I've seen are any indicator, there just is something off about all of them, though I can't tell for sure what. It's not even epicene attire and mannerisms, especially given the current mainstream fashion trends.

Id recommend that you don't paint all gays with the same brush. If either of you had seen me you would have assumed that I was straight.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:23 am

Alvecia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe because me and San Lumen, who are both gay, don't see it as offensive. Honestly to me the word "queer" is way more offensive than "gaydar"

Honestly, I've only ever heard gaydar used in situations where the person being refered to is obviously gay.
As in, currently has their tongue stuck down the throat of a member of the same sex.
Never heard it used in a serious context.

Ya that's true. I've never really ever heard of it outside of someone joking.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:27 am

Minoa wrote:This post has gone too far for me.


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Postby Sovaal » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:19 am

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Sovaal wrote:my step brother has a relatively high voice, dress pretty "modern", and can be effeminate at times. He's married to my sister-in-law, is a Republican, and a minister at his church.

So no.

That's no guarantee he's not gay. You shouldn't assume, but lots of gays still engage in velvet(?) marriages. A high school friend of my mom divorced her husband after catching him having sex with a man. Funnily enough, at the wedding, my dad made the comment to my mom that he thought the groom was gay.

The way he dresses and acts, hell, that anyone for that matter, isn't any closer of being a guarantee either. Hell, probably even worse.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:54 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I mean, in all fairness. Now that I think about it. It DOES sound kind of offensive.

"Gaydar"... A "GAYDAR"? (I mean, it sounds offensive as hell)

The idea that regular Americans could be walking the streets with "Gaydars" inside them that allows them to point out gay people is honestly... kind of disturbing.

Sounds kind of offensive really. I'm surprised San Lumen of all, who's usually very politically correct, would start a discussion on such a thing. I mean, I expect they would instead have phrased it as: "Hey is it possible to identify gay people from mannerisms, speech etc" Instead, they want the full length "IS THE GAYDAR REAL?"

Color me shocked.

Maybe because me and San Lumen, who are both gay, don't see it as offensive. Honestly to me the word "queer" is way more offensive than "gaydar"

Exactly correct. I don't see it as offensive at all. Maybe people in the LGBT community use the word on a regular basis.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:06 am

Alvecia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe because me and San Lumen, who are both gay, don't see it as offensive. Honestly to me the word "queer" is way more offensive than "gaydar"

Honestly, I've only ever heard gaydar used in situations where the person being refered to is obviously gay.
As in, currently has their tongue stuck down the throat of a member of the same sex.
Never heard it used in a serious context.


I guess it sounds offensive because

1. Its an unofficial corruption of the term "radar." So inherently it sounds like its taking something very sensitive (the identification of gay people) half-seriously.
2. The idea of identifying people as gay immediately because of how they move, speak, dress, or conduct themselves sounds like its conducive to promoting anti-gay stereotypes
3. Just the way it sounds. "Gaydar." It just sounds like an insult of some kind.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:10 am

I'm sure it did at one point. But with the growing popularity of flannel and short hair among straight girls, my gaydar has been broken.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:23 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Honestly, I've only ever heard gaydar used in situations where the person being refered to is obviously gay.
As in, currently has their tongue stuck down the throat of a member of the same sex.
Never heard it used in a serious context.


I guess it sounds offensive because

1. Its an unofficial corruption of the term "radar." So inherently it sounds like its taking something very sensitive (the identification of gay people) half-seriously.
2. The idea of identifying people as gay immediately because of how they move, speak, dress, or conduct themselves sounds like its conducive to promoting anti-gay stereotypes
3. Just the way it sounds. "Gaydar." It just sounds like an insult of some kind.


Yes it's true that it might be promoting stereotypes but I don't see how they are anti gay. Most guys I've gone out with you an tell they are gay as soon as they speak.

Many in the LGBT community don't take it as an insult.

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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:15 am

Not to brag * straightens bow tie * but i have pretty on point gaydar.
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Postby Minoa » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:04 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Minoa wrote:This post has gone too far for me.


Welp, USS DI has unexpectedly left orbit. Someone call ground control. Threw up on my shoes and there's nothing I can do.

Well, it is my fault for trying to form an opinion on something that I am so new to. What a slip up in my part. :blush:
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:40 am

No, I find it a lot of nonsense.
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