Mars or a border wall?

[The Emerald Legion]

How so?

It's a lot more fun,
employs many people, up and down the production chain. Starving Bolivian farmers deserve love too.
Gives law enforcement something to do.

But it doesn't further the glory of the American Empire. Establishing planetary Colonies on the other hand, does.

[Oil exporting People]

Or, legalise and tax cocaine, decrease police budgets due to the reduced crime rates and you have money for science! Cocaine and science, what could go wrong!

Police budgets largely come from the local level, so you're getting almost fuck all from this savings wise.

[Dooom35796821595]

Or, legalise and tax cocaine, decrease police budgets due to the reduced crime rates and you have money for science! Cocaine and science, what could go wrong!

Police budgets largely come from the local level, so you're getting almost fuck all from this savings wise.

...increase federal taxes? Local science tax breaks? I don't know how the US works, I'm not even American.

[USS Monitor]

Mars, obviously.

Border walls aren't very effective since people can tunnel, sail, fly, overstay tourist visas, etc. -- and that's even before you get to the question of whether immigration is good or bad.

Going to Mars is at least scientifically interesting.

[Ethel mermania]

It's a lot more fun,
employs many people, up and down the production chain. Starving Bolivian farmers deserve love too.
Gives law enforcement something to do.

Or, legalise and tax cocaine, decrease police budgets due to the reduced crime rates and you have money for science! Cocaine and science, what could go wrong!

Then you are still back to the Mars v wall problem. Which I guess meaNS we can give a bigger tax cut.

[Ethel mermania]

It's a lot more fun,
employs many people, up and down the production chain. Starving Bolivian farmers deserve love too.
Gives law enforcement something to do.

But it doesn't further the glory of the American Empire. Establishing planetary Colonies on the other hand, does.

Tell trump he can build the first resort, casino golf course on mars. Maybe he will fund it.

[Ethel mermania]

Or, legalise and tax cocaine, decrease police budgets due to the reduced crime rates and you have money for science! Cocaine and science, what could go wrong!

Police budgets largely come from the local level, so you're getting almost fuck all from this savings wise.

But DEA enforcement grants do come from the feds. I am snorting my bigger tax refund already.

[The Emerald Legion]

Mars, obviously.

Border walls aren't very effective since people can tunnel, sail, fly, overstay tourist visas, etc. -- and that's even before you get to the question of whether immigration is good or bad.

Going to Mars is at least scientifically interesting.

Unless of course the Border Wall is just a blast wall to keep the nuclear conflagration from spreading across the border into America. Of course it's terribly constructed if that IS it's purpose but still.

[Dooom35796821595]

Or, legalise and tax cocaine, decrease police budgets due to the reduced crime rates and you have money for science! Cocaine and science, what could go wrong!

Then you are still back to the Mars v wall problem. Which I guess meaNS we can give a bigger tax cut.

Nah, more taxes. More NASA, more cocaine, more science, more power!!!

[Ethel mermania]

Mars, obviously.

Border walls aren't very effective since people can tunnel, sail, fly, overstay tourist visas, etc. -- and that's even before you get to the question of whether immigration is good or bad.

Going to Mars is at least scientifically interesting.

It's red, it's got rocks, I can see the same in Colorado

[The Emerald Legion]

Mars, obviously.

Border walls aren't very effective since people can tunnel, sail, fly, overstay tourist visas, etc. -- and that's even before you get to the question of whether immigration is good or bad.

Going to Mars is at least scientifically interesting.

It's red, it's got rocks, I can see the same in Colorado

But Colorado has normal, boring, Earth Gravity.

Mars has MARS GRAVITY! SPACE ELEVATORS! INTERSTELLAR FLEETS!

[Ethel mermania]

It's red, it's got rocks, I can see the same in Colorado

But Colorado has normal, boring, Earth Gravity.

Mars has MARS GRAVITY! SPACE ELEVATORS! INTERSTELLAR FLEETS!

300 yard 9 irons. 1000 yard drives. Eat my dust Arnold palmer.

[Coalition of North American States]

All hail NASA!

[The Emerald Legion]

But Colorado has normal, boring, Earth Gravity.

Mars has MARS GRAVITY! SPACE ELEVATORS! INTERSTELLAR FLEETS!

300 yard 9 irons. 1000 yard drives. Eat my dust Arnold palmer.

I will never understand golf. Why combine Driving, with Alcohol, with swinging metal clubs, with aiming small projectiles across distances?

[Ethel mermania]

300 yard 9 irons. 1000 yard drives. Eat my dust Arnold palmer.

I will never understand golf. Why combine Driving, with Alcohol, with swinging metal clubs, with aiming small projectiles across distances?

Seriously, it's like th ATF, can you think of better things for a Party.

[Anollasia]

Landing on Mars is a better accomplishment than a border wall.

[The Portland Territory]

Fuck, I'm torn

It depends. Do we have terraforming yet? How big shall the color be?

A wall vs American Space Empire. How is that even a choice?

Aint that not even allowed under UN conventions?

Hell, it'd probably be under UN control

[The Emerald Legion]

A wall vs American Space Empire. How is that even a choice?

Aint that not even allowed under UN conventions?

Hell, it'd probably be under UN control

Fuck the UN. Once we control Mars we can invoke MAD without actually destroying ourselves.

[The East Marches II]

A wall vs American Space Empire. How is that even a choice?

Aint that not even allowed under UN conventions?

Hell, it'd probably be under UN control

Nobody listens to them it's ok fam

[Shofercia]

If you had to choose which one the US should do which would it be? Mars Direct or a Border wall with Mexico? Both have a similar price tag ($30b - $50b and $20b - $70b) and for the sake of the discussion assume they are both feasable. Also assume neither isn't an option.

Mars. That way I can recruit a bunch of Marvins to annoy my enemies/competitors

"So Marvin, about those NSG mods..."

*Notices Farn's Guards*

"They're actually very good people. Completely unbiased. Never grumble. Not sure why I mentioned them to you..."

Sorry mods, it was too tempting

[Ethel mermania]

personally i am on mars's side

[Oldenfranck]

Neither. Here's a crazy thought, why don't we spend our precious resources on sh!t that we actually NEED instead of toying around. Crazy, I know right?

[Valrifell]

Venus, in my mind, would be the cooler planet to explore. Even if we can't set foot on its surface.

[Dooom35796821595]

Venus, in my mind, would be the cooler planet to explore. Even if we can't set foot on its surface.

Why not both? Even better, why not all of them?

*but not Pluto, Pluto is bad.

[Shofercia]

Venus, in my mind, would be the cooler planet to explore. Even if we can't set foot on its surface.

Why not both? Even better, why not all of them?

*but not Pluto, Pluto is bad.

It's all about Charon.