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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:45 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.

well it does to me but the fact remains it cant be called racist


If I said "All Indians are cheap and can't drive," would that be racist?

yes because you are thinking of indians as inferior


So, if I said "All black people are better at sports than white people," is that not racist?

well yes cause that attributes inferior qualities to white people

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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:46 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.

well it does to me but the fact remains it cant be called racist


If I said "All Indians are cheap and can't drive," would that be racist?

yes because you are thinking of indians as inferior


So, if I said "All black people are better at sports than white people," is that not racist?

well yes cause that attributes inferior qualities to white people


So it is not racist to assume a black person is good at sports just because he is black?
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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:46 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.

well it does to me but the fact remains it cant be called racist


If I said "All Indians are cheap and can't drive," would that be racist?

yes because you are thinking of indians as inferior


So, if I said "All black people are better at sports than white people," is that not racist?

well yes cause that attributes inferior qualities to white people

Or they could just be better...

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:47 am

Racism is the idea that humanity can meaningfully be subdivided into a handful of races.
Racism is silly ;)
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:47 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

No-one's denying that. What I'm questioning is why you'd dislike all British people, past and present, for the action of just some.

I can understand a dislike of the individuals, institutions and policies responsible for colonisation; I can't understand saying things like "i want whats [sic] bad for britain". Why would you dislike or wish harm on me or the millions of other Brits who had no part in, and do not support, the colonisation of India?
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Postby Allbeama » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:48 am

Dimoniquid wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

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Postby Station 12 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:49 am

Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.

well it does to me but the fact remains it cant be called racist


If I said "All Indians are cheap and can't drive," would that be racist?

yes because you are thinking of indians as inferior


So, if I said "All black people are better at sports than white people," is that not racist?

well yes cause that attributes inferior qualities to white people

Or they could just be better...

It says that white people are inferior to black people by saying that black people are better.
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:49 am

Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

No-one's denying that. What I'm questioning is why you'd dislike all British people, past and present, for the action of just some.

I can understand a dislike of the individuals, institutions and policies responsible for colonisation; I can't understand saying things like "i want whats [sic] bad for britain". Why would you dislike or wish harm on me or the millions of other Brits who had no part in, and do not support, the colonisation of India?


during the british rule only a minority supported anti-colonisation

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Postby JuNii » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:49 am

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

According to Dictionary.com

rac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Jedi 999 wrote:well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists.
hating a country is not racist. true.
Jedi 999 wrote: Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist
now hating the people who have nothing to do with said destruction except they are from the country you hate... that falls into Definition 3 and can fall into Definition 1.
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:50 am

Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:52 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:52 am

JuNii wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

According to Dictionary.com

rac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Jedi 999 wrote:well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists.
hating a country is not racist. true.
Jedi 999 wrote: Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist
now hating the people who have nothing to do with said destruction except they are from the country you hate... that falls into Definition 3 and can fall into Definition 1.

but what about hating people who once hated your people and wrote stuff like white mans burden

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:52 am

JuNii wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

According to Dictionary.com

rac·ism   /ˈreɪsɪzəm/
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races..


I repeat my statement that even acting like there are "races" of humans is racist :p
Bad dictonary. Racist it is !
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:53 am

Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

You are not a mod/admin, you have no authority on General. You don't like it, go to the mods.

i quoted this is racist and should not be tolerated

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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:55 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

You are not a mod/admin, you have no authority on General. You don't like it, go to the mods.

i quoted this is racist and should not be tolerated

Go to the mods then! You can't force someone to delete a post because you don't like it! You don't like it, go to someone who's in authority; E.g. A mod.

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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:55 am

Jedi 999 wrote:Well, so I argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists. Hating people who have destroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist.


(I think I corrected most of the grammar mistakes)

A good position to take there. But what constitutes a racist country? I could point to the evils that occured during World War 2 in Germany as an example as racism. But can we really say that Germans today are still racist? When would you say a country should stop clinging to its racist past, and embrace a better future?
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Postby Chumblywumbly » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:55 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

No-one's denying that. What I'm questioning is why you'd dislike all British people, past and present, for the action of just some.

I can understand a dislike of the individuals, institutions and policies responsible for colonisation; I can't understand saying things like "i want whats [sic] bad for britain". Why would you dislike or wish harm on me or the millions of other Brits who had no part in, and do not support, the colonisation of India?

during the british rule only a minority supported anti-colonisation

I know English isn't your first language, so perhaps we an chalk your statements up to that, but thus far on this forum you've indicated far more than simple dislike of those British who colonised or support(ed) colonisation.

You've been suggesting that all British people are worthy of contempt, and appear to be wishing harm on us merely for being from Britain.
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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:55 am

Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

You are not a mod/admin, you have no authority on General. You don't like it, go to the mods.

i quoted this is racist and should not be tolerated

Go to the mods then! You can't force someone to delete a post because you don't like it! You don't like it, go to someone who's in authority; E.g. A mod.

I just did that

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:56 am

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist

hating people who "have destroyed your country" is not racist. hating people who DIDNT "destroy your country" but are associated with those who did in your mind because they are of the same "race" IS racist.

accepting the notion that you can identify who "destroyed your country" and that it is indeed destroyed.
whatever

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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:56 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Dimoniquid wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Runescapes wrote:Join the kkk, make your dreams come true, eliminate the black race get them coons

delete your post now

You are not a mod/admin, you have no authority on General. You don't like it, go to the mods.

i quoted this is racist and should not be tolerated

Go to the mods then! You can't force someone to delete a post because you don't like it! You don't like it, go to someone who's in authority; E.g. A mod.

I just did that

Good.

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Postby Jedi 999 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:57 am

Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

No-one's denying that. What I'm questioning is why you'd dislike all British people, past and present, for the action of just some.

I can understand a dislike of the individuals, institutions and policies responsible for colonisation; I can't understand saying things like "i want whats [sic] bad for britain". Why would you dislike or wish harm on me or the millions of other Brits who had no part in, and do not support, the colonisation of India?

during the british rule only a minority supported anti-colonisation

I know English isn't your first language, so perhaps we an chalk your statements up to that, but thus far on this forum you've indicated far more than simple dislike of those British who colonised or support(ed) colonisation.

You've been suggesting that all British people are worthy of contempt, and appear to be wishing harm on us merely for being from Britain.

A country which refuses to give a public apology and refuse to give back the gems which were stolen from india
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Postby Collective Systems » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:59 am

But hating a specific group of people, no matter the cause, is still racism.

So yes sir, I am calling you a racist, and I am not wrong.

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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:59 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Chumblywumbly wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

No-one's denying that. What I'm questioning is why you'd dislike all British people, past and present, for the action of just some.

I can understand a dislike of the individuals, institutions and policies responsible for colonisation; I can't understand saying things like "i want whats [sic] bad for britain". Why would you dislike or wish harm on me or the millions of other Brits who had no part in, and do not support, the colonisation of India?

during the british rule only a minority supported anti-colonisation

I know English isn't your first language, so perhaps we an chalk your statements up to that, but thus far on this forum you've indicated far more than simple dislike of those British who colonised or support(ed) colonisation.

You've been suggesting that all British people are worthy of contempt, and appear to be wishing harm on us merely for being from Britain.

A country which refuses to give a public apology and refuse to give back the gems which were stolen from india

Here's something... stereotypes - most American actors put our accents as 'snooty' and 'posh', while we're not. Racism, much? Mocking us?

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