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Postby Platonic Thought » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:51 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
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Sdaeriji wrote:
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Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

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Postby Andaluciae » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:55 am

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:
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Collective Systems wrote:But hating a specific group of people, no matter the cause, is still racism.

So yes sir, I am calling you a racist, and I am not wrong.

racism is hating people because of their skin colour .


Wrong.

a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

hating people who deystroyed your country is not racist it maybe nationalistic but not racist too me


No, it's racist. By the very definition you just cited.


hating racists is not racist


You don't hate just racists. You hate all British people. All British people are not racists. You, however, are.

Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Pretty much everybody in Britain who was involved in the rule of India is really fucking dead. It was a long time ago.
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Postby Macante » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:23 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
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Jedi 999 wrote:Remember what bullshit they used to justify british rule


Every single British person, ever?

no but remember what bullshit did the british write to justify british rule in india


Every single British person, ever?


Those chavs, always loitering around on street corners, justifying British rule in India...

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Postby Caninope » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:43 pm

Jedi999 I'm gonna tell it like it is, OK?

You hate all British people for the actions of their ancestors. That is racist. No Brits living now took part in the enslavement of the people.

The Gem was given to the Brits as a spoil of war, just like how the Mughals had got it as a spoil of war.

The White Man's Burden, written by a racist (Kipling), was racist but focused more on helping the other nations, and justification. In a sense, the White Man's Burden was intended to help lift the oppressed out of poverty. Didn't work like that, but no one here can fix that.

India is a free country and has absolutely no burden to Britain, and all of the problems in India aren't a result of Britain.

Learn some grammar please. I understand that English isn't your first language, but I know plenty of people who have better grammar than most Brits or Americans who learned English as their second language.
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Postby Tokos » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:08 pm

Fun fact: India was formed by foreign conquerers who disdained the native peoples as inferior and idolatrous.

I am of course speaking of the Aryan barbarians who invaded thousands of years ago.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:09 pm

I think you should learn some new tricks, ;)

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Postby Dimoniquid » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:10 pm

Tokos wrote:Fun fact: India was formed by foreign conquerers who disdained the native peoples as inferior and idolatrous.

I am of course speaking of the Aryan barbarians who invaded thousands of years ago.

Of course.

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Postby Neo-Sudan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:16 pm

Isn't India the place that after the British left the locals proceeded to murder each other in the hundreds of thousands?

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:17 pm

Neo-Sudan wrote:Isn't India the place that after the British left the locals proceeded to murder each other in the hundreds of thousands?

Nah, I think that was Palestine...

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Postby Tokos » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:31 pm

Neo-Sudan wrote:Isn't India the place that after the British left the locals proceeded to murder each other in the hundreds of thousands?


I think that was Pakistan.

If I were Indian I'd want to be rid of that crowd too.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:44 pm

Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist

Holy shit! After reading the OP, I think I'm now dumber. For Chrissakes, learn to convey your thoughts properly.
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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:45 pm

Caninope wrote:Jedi999 I'm gonna tell it like it is, OK?

You hate all British people for the actions of their ancestors. That is racist. No Brits living now took part in the enslavement of the people.

The Gem was given to the Brits as a spoil of war, just like how the Mughals had got it as a spoil of war.

The White Man's Burden, written by a racist (Kipling), was racist but focused more on helping the other nations, and justification. In a sense, the White Man's Burden was intended to help lift the oppressed out of poverty. Didn't work like that, but no one here can fix that.

India is a free country and has absolutely no burden to Britain, and all of the problems in India aren't a result of Britain.

Learn some grammar please. I understand that English isn't your first language, but I know plenty of people who have better grammar than most Brits or Americans who learned English as their second language.


You can tell it like it is all you like, but jedi999 still won't accept it. That is perhaps the saddest part of the whole affair.

Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.
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Postby JuNii » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Jedi 999 wrote:according to wikipedia

Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or receive preferential treatment.

well so i argue hating a country because they treated your people like shit is not racist but anti-racist and people who glorify these racists are racists / closet racists . Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist but loving those people who treated other races like shit is racist

Holy shit! After reading the OP, I think I'm now dumber. For Chrissakes, learn to convey your thoughts properly.

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Postby Neo-Sudan » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:47 pm

who's ham?

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Postby JuNii » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:50 pm

Johz wrote:Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.

I doubt it. he posted during a ban.. I don't think even Ham would attempt that.
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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:51 pm

Neo-Sudan wrote:who's ham?


Hammurab. It's spelt something like that. I tend to shorten names if I'm on my phone, as predictive texting doesn't like it if I start trying to get it to write strange words. Sorry about that.
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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:54 pm

JuNii wrote:
Johz wrote:Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.

I doubt it. he posted during a ban.. I don't think even Ham would attempt that.


True. He's clever, but he's not stupid.

Wait a minute...
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:58 pm

Johz wrote:
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Johz wrote:Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.

I doubt it. he posted during a ban.. I don't think even Ham would attempt that.


True. He's clever, but he's not stupid.

Wait a minute...

There would have been some signs, one would think... I'm not seeing any at all. Plus Ham usually writes in good English, regardless of who hes making fun of.
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Postby Johz » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:16 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Johz wrote:
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Johz wrote:Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.

I doubt it. he posted during a ban.. I don't think even Ham would attempt that.


True. He's clever, but he's not stupid.

Wait a minute...

There would have been some signs, one would think... I'm not seeing any at all. Plus Ham usually writes in good English, regardless of who hes making fun of.


I know it probably isn't him, I just wish it was.
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Postby East Fancainia » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:20 pm

Jedi 999 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
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Jedi 999 wrote:Hating people who have deystroyed your country is not racist...

OK, but hating and wishing ill on a whole set of people because a part of that set did something bad in the past makes no sense.


Ascribing certain traits to an entire people in a stereotypical fashion is textbook racism. Such as, for example, saying that all British are evil colonizers.

well they did colonize thats a historical fact

so did the French, Spanish, Italians...almost every country in the world had a colony at one time.

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Postby Helertia » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:21 pm

I didn't even need to read past the first post on this topic to know it would be Jedi ranting about events that occured 150 years ago, and demanding retribution on the probably not that old population
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:21 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Johz wrote:
JuNii wrote:
Johz wrote:Unless, of course, he's Ham's puppet. Which I still want to be true.

I doubt it. he posted during a ban.. I don't think even Ham would attempt that.


True. He's clever, but he's not stupid.

Wait a minute...

There would have been some signs, one would think... I'm not seeing any at all. Plus Ham usually writes in good English, regardless of who hes making fun of.


Wait are you talking about Hammurab? ;)

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Postby Tokos » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:22 pm

Helertia wrote:I didn't even need to read past the first post on this topic to know it would be Jedi ranting about events that occured 150 years ago.


It is perfectly clear that the British are racist bastards who are on an eternal quest to destroy all that is Indian. That's why so many Indians live in the United Kingdom. They're masochists.
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Postby Vesser » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:23 pm

Racism(n):
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


If you hate a race because of what they did to you're country, you are racist.

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Postby Vitius » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:28 pm

Eh..You don't quite understand. Racism is the thinking that you have the advantage over someone because of their skin color, or thinking that they are bad because of their skin color. Your belief is that you despise anti-racist citizens-not because of their color, but because of their ideas.
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