Boys Scouts to start letting girls join

[Salandriagado]

Nah. "In a tent, on a narrow roll-mat with six other people" is the very last place where anything is going to happen.

First, at least in my troop we generally had two person tents, which does allow for possibilities. Second, there are 24 hours in a day and 6 to 8 of them were spent in the tents. As to the rest, there can be quite a bit of privacy in the woods.

And? You'll notice the complete lack of problems in all the other Scout associations, and at all of the big events that happen every year. In particular, you'll notice a distinct lack of problems at the 50%-female largest camp that's happening in the US next year.

[Salandriagado]

I agree that girls and boys should be able to learn the same thing, but why can't we just expand on Girl Scout curriculum instead of letting girls into Boy Scouts?

1) What benefit would that offer?
2) The BSA executive has no ability to expand on the GSA program.

[New haven america]

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

[Salandriagado]

Why? There are already American scouting organizations that allow both genders. Why do we need to change the Boy Scouts to allow girls anyways? Why can't the Girl Scouts just reform and make themselves better. ITs the fucking Boy Scouts ffs.

Because (1) the BSA has no ability to control the GSA, and (2), there's no good reason to segregate, or to keep calling themselves the "Boy Scouts" (which is stupid enough as it is, given that they've had girls for nearly 50 years now).

[Sjovenia]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/us/boy-scouts-girls.html

The Boy Scouts of America announced plans on Wednesday to broadly accept girls, marking a historic shift for the century-old organization and setting off a debate about where girls better learn how to be leaders.

I'm all for equality and all that good stuff. But this whole thing is just assinine. For cripes sake, the organization is called the BOY Scouts. I know girls can do everything guys can and all that, but certain things should still be boys only. Hell, girls have their own scout thing.

What do you all think of this?

Boy Scouts is for Boys, Girl Scouts is for Girls. Simple. As for gender equality well that doesn't fall on Boy Scouts, that falls on Girl Scout leadership! They want to go camping and sell popcorn and blow shit up and make fires and build things then put it in the Girl Scout curriculum.

[The Corparation]

I hate both scouts. I would not care if they made a gay scout league,i would always hate the scouts.They are keeping boys out of school.

Scouts took up an hour or two a week and a weekend or two a month when I was a kid. I don't think I ever missed school due to scouts. (Excepting one Band trip which over laped with a campout). Not really sure what you think scouts does that makes it incompatible with going to school.

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

Was their a spike in Teen Pregnancies when the BSA introduced coed venture and sea scouts 2 years ago?

[Oil exporting People]

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

Both are largely composed of minors, so unless a trend beyond hiding is happening, you're not going to get reporting on it for legal reasons.

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

How close and how often are they occupied at the same time? If there is a mile between them and it's after dark, that certainly puts a damper on things.

[The Grene Knyght]

I'm all for gender equality, but I think girls are icky, so I'm gonna come up with a bullshit excuse to hate this.

[Salandriagado]

Complete bullshit.
The girls can fuck off of my Troop.

Scared they'll be better at it than you?

I hate both scouts. I would not care if they made a gay scout league,i would always hate the scouts.They are keeping boys out of school.

No they fucking aren't. When the fuck do you think Scouting events happen? I'll give you a hint: it ain't during school time.

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

So you're extrapolating from the zero problems that have resulted from the 14-18 age range being coed, and concluding that making the 8-10 age range coed will result in pregnancies? Interesting...

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

So you're extrapolating from the zero problems that have resulted from the 14-18 age range being coed, and concluding that making the 8-10 age range coed will result in pregnancies? Interesting...

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

Both are largely composed of minors, so unless a trend beyond hiding is happening, you're not going to get reporting on it for legal reasons.

I get the internal reports. It doesn't happen. Also: 8-10 year olds.

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

How close and how often are they occupied at the same time? If there is a mile between them and it's after dark, that certainly puts a damper on things.

Often feet (single digit feet), and very often occupied at the same time.

[New haven america]

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

Both are largely composed of minors, so unless a trend beyond hiding is happening, you're not going to get reporting on it for legal reasons.

13/14-21 (Respectively), actually.

And they do a pretty good job at keeping to themselves, so... do you have a relevant point?

[The Corparation]

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

Both are largely composed of minors, so unless a trend beyond hiding is happening, you're not going to get reporting on it for legal reasons.

So by your logic unless there is a visible trend then it won't be reported. Now to my knowledge no such trend has been reported. I think this would, using your logic, imply that there is no such trend.

[Oil exporting People]

14-21, actually

So overwhelmingly minor, as I said. Thank you for agreeing with my point.

And they do a pretty good job at keeping to themselves, so... do you have a relevant point?

And you know this because? They're largely minors, so such can't be reported on, and it's only been two years. Further, these are pretty small programs in different conditions compared to usual BSA conditions.

[Internationalist Bastard]

I reiterate what I said earlier, Sea and Venture Scouting has been run by the BSA for a while and has been doing fine.

Both are largely composed of minors, so unless a trend beyond hiding is happening, you're not going to get reporting on it for legal reasons.

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

How close and how often are they occupied at the same time? If there is a mile between them and it's after dark, that certainly puts a damper on things.

It's prolly a mile, but these are people we are literally training to hike through the woods

[Oil exporting People]

So by your logic unless there is a visible trend then it won't be reported. Now to my knowledge no such trend has been reported. I think this would, using your logic, imply that there is no such trend.

> 2 Years
> Small Programs

[The Corparation]

I'll eagerly await the spike in Teenage Pregnancies and sex scandals from this move.

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

Hell they don't even need to go down the road to the girl scout camps. Boy Scout camps usually have coed staff. Shockingly such camps are not teen pregnancy factories.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well it's not like they had much separation before. A lot of girl scout camps are in relatively close distance of boy scout camps, I imagine the boning was already happening

Hell they don't even need to go down the road to the girl scout camps. Boy Scout camps usually have coed staff. Shockingly such camps are not teen pregnancy factories.

Well there ya go

[Oil exporting People]

It's prolly a mile, but these are people we are literally training to hike through the woods

Pretty different experience hiking at day with a group, as opposed to being in bear country at night by one's self. This also doesn't address whether or not the camps are inhabited at the same time.

[The Corparation]

So by your logic unless there is a visible trend then it won't be reported. Now to my knowledge no such trend has been reported. I think this would, using your logic, imply that there is no such trend.

> 2 Years
> Small Programs

Try 20 years. And as a small program than that would imply that even a small increase would create a visible trend.

[Oil exporting People]

Try 20 years. And if its a small program than that would imply that even a small increase would create a visible trend.

Programs only became co-ed two years ago.

Hell they don't even need to go down the road to the girl scout camps. Boy Scout camps usually have coed staff. Shockingly such camps are not teen pregnancy factories.

That most adults don't have sex with children is a surprise? Now, as to children of the same age....

[Internationalist Bastard]

It's prolly a mile, but these are people we are literally training to hike through the woods

Pretty different experience hiking at day with a group, as opposed to being in bear country at night by one's self. This also doesn't address whether or not the camps are inhabited at the same time.

From my limited experience, yeah, they try to link up the schedules to do all the woods stuff at once. And these are pretty well trod paths, maybe 20 feet across

[New haven america]

14-21, actually

1,So overwhelmingly minor, as I said. Thank you for agreeing with my point.

And they do a pretty good job at keeping to themselves, so... do you have a relevant point?

2.And you know this because? They're largely minors, so such can't be reported on, and it's only been two years. Further, these are pretty small programs in different conditions compared to usual BSA conditions.

1. False, seeing as how the only minor age groups in there are 13/14-17, they're actually largely adult (18-21 is higher by a year). Math, can you use it?
2. Because as a few people have stated before, there are multiple examples of scouts doing co-ed activities or have GSA and BSA camps near each other, and there haven't really been any examples of a rise in pregnancy rates.

[Pax Nerdvana]

BSA camps generally do have a coed staff.

[New haven america]

Complete bullshit.
The girls can fuck off of my Troop.

TBH, I think my Troop could've used a few girls. Most girls my age at school hated me, so having an area where the female population was actually nice or friendly/comrade-like would have been a big help growing up.

[Oil exporting People]

1. False, seeing as how the only minor age groups in there are 13/14-17, they're actually largely adult (18-21 is higher by a year). Math, can you use it?

13, 14, 15, 16, 17 = 5

18, 19, 20, 21 = 4

Seems like you're the one having trouble with math there, bud. Thanks for proving my point for me!

EDIT: This also doesn't address the percentages. How many thousands are 18 and how many thousands are 13, for example.

2. Because as a few people have stated before, there are multiple examples of scouts doing co-ed activities or have GSA and BSA camps near each other, and there haven't really been any examples of a rise in pregnancy rates.

And no one has yet been able to answer if the camps are inhabited at the same time, nor how close the average distance between the two is. There's also the issue of enforced cabin/tent times and bed checks to counter sneaking out, which won't exist in co-ed dorming events.