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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:41 am

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Thermodolia wrote:No need. The BSA already has co-ed scouting, it's called Venture Scouts. All you need to do is expand it for all ages.


What's the age restriction on Venture Scouts?

I think the minimum age is 14, but I' m not 100% sure.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:41 am

next step is having boys join the girl scouts.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:42 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What's the age restriction on Venture Scouts?

I think the minimum age is 14, but I' m not 100% sure.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No need. The BSA already has co-ed scouting, it's called Venture Scouts. All you need to do is expand it for all ages.


What's the age restriction on Venture Scouts?

Currently it's 14.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:42 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
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What's the age restriction on Venture Scouts?

I think the minimum age is 14, but I' m not 100% sure.


Ok. Maybe lower it to 10? I'm sure there's a way to make it so that girls can join them, even if they're younger than 14, provided they wish to engage in more outdoorsy stuff rather than just sell cookies.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:43 am

Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.

The radfems in the GSA won't approve. Btw the GSA is pissed that the BSA is allowing girls in.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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But then they've got even more silly redundancy (and confusing names) than they already have.

We already have redundancy. Venture Scouting is open to girls and guys ages 14-21, the BSA just goes to 18. Plus there's the Sea Scouts, and the Explorers both of which are Co-ed.


Yes. All of said redundancy is silly, and adding more doesn't help.


For comparison, here's a sensible structure:

Beaver Scouts 6-8
Cub Scouts 8-10.5
Scouts 10.5-14
Explorer Scouts 14-18
Scout Network 18-25

Notice the lack of redundancy. Sea Scouts and Air Scouts are rolled into the same structure, with no difference except for minor uniform changes, and an at least nominal attempt to do more water/air based activities.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:43 am

Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.


Honestly, that would be good too, if the boys don't wish to join in BSA activities and prefer GSA ones.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:43 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I think the minimum age is 14, but I' m not 100% sure.


Ok. Maybe lower it to 10? I'm sure there's a way to make it so that girls can join them, even if they're younger than 14, provided they wish to engage in more outdoorsy stuff rather than just sell cookies.

Age 10-21 would definitely work.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:44 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.

The radfems in the GSA won't approve. Btw the GSA is pissed that the BSA is allowing girls in.

Makes sense for them to be angry.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:45 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.


Honestly, that would be good too, if the boys don't wish to join in BSA activities and prefer GSA ones.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:46 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.


Honestly, that would be good too, if the boys don't wish to join in BSA activities and prefer GSA ones.

Have all scouting organisations open to all children?

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:47 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:We already have redundancy. Venture Scouting is open to girls and guys ages 14-21, the BSA just goes to 18. Plus there's the Sea Scouts, and the Explorers both of which are Co-ed.


Yes. All of said redundancy is silly, and adding more doesn't help.


For comparison, here's a sensible structure:

Beaver Scouts 6-8
Cub Scouts 8-10.5
Scouts 10.5-14
Explorer Scouts 14-18
Scout Network 18-25

Notice the lack of redundancy. Sea Scouts and Air Scouts are rolled into the same structure, with no difference except for minor uniform changes, and an at least nominal attempt to do more water/air based activities.

Except that Explorer Scouts are inherently different. They are geared more towards jobs.

I've never heard of a air Scouts
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:48 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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To be fair, boys are also scary. People are scary.

Call it the Scary Scouts


I'm all for it, really. Nice inclusive name and all.


And they'll be a hoot around Halloween.
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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:49 am

Thermodolia wrote:
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Yes. All of said redundancy is silly, and adding more doesn't help.


For comparison, here's a sensible structure:

Beaver Scouts 6-8
Cub Scouts 8-10.5
Scouts 10.5-14
Explorer Scouts 14-18
Scout Network 18-25

Notice the lack of redundancy. Sea Scouts and Air Scouts are rolled into the same structure, with no difference except for minor uniform changes, and an at least nominal attempt to do more water/air based activities.

Except that Explorer Scouts are inherently different. They are geared more towards jobs.

I've never heard of a air Scouts


Only the weird silly US one.

And you have utterly and completely failed to respond to the point in any way, yet again.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Yes. All of said redundancy is silly, and adding more doesn't help.


For comparison, here's a sensible structure:

Beaver Scouts 6-8
Cub Scouts 8-10.5
Scouts 10.5-14
Explorer Scouts 14-18
Scout Network 18-25

Notice the lack of redundancy. Sea Scouts and Air Scouts are rolled into the same structure, with no difference except for minor uniform changes, and an at least nominal attempt to do more water/air based activities.

Except that Explorer Scouts are inherently different. They are geared more towards jobs.

I've never heard of a air Scouts

They can fly.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:53 am

The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
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How exactly could the BSA make the GSA do anything at all?


the BSA cant make the GSA do anything, but the GSA can look around and realize people are turned away fro mthe GSA with the lack of scouting activities and add them to what they do.


Adding girls doesn't change the stress levels at all.

And people do get stressed to not look dumb/not mess up in front of the opposite sex all the time


And people don't get stressed to not look dumb/not mess up in front of the same sex?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:54 am

Kannap wrote:
The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:
the BSA cant make the GSA do anything, but the GSA can look around and realize people are turned away fro mthe GSA with the lack of scouting activities and add them to what they do.


And people do get stressed to not look dumb/not mess up in front of the opposite sex all the time


And people don't get stressed to not look dumb/not mess up in front of the same sex?

We need Individual Scouts, where people learn things on their own, stress free.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:55 am

U SA Minor wrote:You see, I'm all for equality but if someone wants to have a gender specific scouts, go for it.


Seeing as the BSA's board of directors unanimously voted to do this then they probably don't necessarily want to have a gender specific scouts.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:56 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Except that Explorer Scouts are inherently different. They are geared more towards jobs.

I've never heard of a air Scouts


Only the weird silly US one.

And you have utterly and completely failed to respond to the point in any way, yet again.

I thought it was pretty clear. The Exploring Scouts aren't really scouting. But Sea and Venture are, and I'm quite fine with keeping them separate because not everyone wants to do Sea scouts, or venture.
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Postby Polvatsiya » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:56 am

Kannap wrote:
U SA Minor wrote:You see, I'm all for equality but if someone wants to have a gender specific scouts, go for it.


Seeing as the BSA's board of directors unanimously voted to do this then they probably don't necessarily want to have a gender specific scouts.

why do girl scouts exist then
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:57 am

Polvatsiya wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Seeing as the BSA's board of directors unanimously voted to do this then they probably don't necessarily want to have a gender specific scouts.

why do girl scouts exist then

The GSA isn't owned by the BSA.
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Sounds like conservatives complain about safe spaces being bullshit until their safe spaces are at risk. Interesting

and oh yes the all right wingers are hive minds


They're all similar enough to leave a bad taste in my mouth.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:58 am

Kannap wrote:
The Grande Republic 0f Arcadia wrote:and oh yes the all right wingers are hive minds


They're all similar enough to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

There's a gay joke here somewhere
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:58 am

Polvatsiya wrote:next step is having boys join the girl scouts.


Or the Girl Scouts just plowing themselves into the ground faster than the stock market in 1929.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Except that Explorer Scouts are inherently different. They are geared more towards jobs.

I've never heard of a air Scouts

They can fly.


If their mascot is not a flying squirrel then I am gonna be angry.
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