[Film] Harvey Weinstein’s Downfall

[Genivaria]

I thought this was about the movie with the Nazis. My bad.

[Ethel mermania]

That is a much more reasonable point to make than the homer Simpson nonsense. However sexism in the industry is nothing new and has been going on for decades. The trope has existed far longer than the internet usage of the term trope.

Sexism has existed in society for longer than we have had the performing arts.

Why do you want to cover the sexism of Hollywood up? Harvey is merely the sacrifice being thrown into the volcano, he by no means is the only offender.

I have no objection to the police following the evidence and making arrests and sending people to trial. But people are proposing an investigation into dozens, hundreds, thousands of people solely on the basis of them sharing an industry with a man who has done bad things. Not any plausible accusation or suspicion that any of them have done something wrong. Just "Oh Hollywood is full of scumbags." That is no basis for a police investigation.

As to a specific criminal investigation, your point is fair. However industries in genenal have been subject to . A legislative hearing either congressional or at the state level that could potentially lead to criminal arrests or legislation. I would support such an investigation.

[Herador]

Do you have evidence to support this?

It's common sense. She makes more money acting, than doing anything else. There's no point in her being a gold digger.

You're probably not going to get far with this, she's a woman and there's a lawsuit involved, Costa can only assume one thing. It's like in his programing or something.

[Ifreann]

Sexism has existed in society for longer than we have had the performing arts.

I have no objection to the police following the evidence and making arrests and sending people to trial. But people are proposing an investigation into dozens, hundreds, thousands of people solely on the basis of them sharing an industry with a man who has done bad things. Not any plausible accusation or suspicion that any of them have done something wrong. Just "Oh Hollywood is full of scumbags." That is no basis for a police investigation.

As to a specific criminal investigation, your point is fair. However industries in genenal have been subject to . A legislative hearing either congressional or at the state level that could potentially lead to criminal arrests or legislation. I would support such an investigation.

Well, after the Hollywood investigation, queue one up for every other industry ever.

[Costa Fierro]

I'm talking about the others, like Rose McGowan.

So am I. Rose McGowan accepted a settlement for sexual harassment in 1997.

So if I was to publish a phone number that's been on late night TV ads, and known by thousands of people, would it be a violation if the advertiser says that it's private? Even though it was on cable?

No. If it was a private phone number, like someone's home phone or cellphone, it would be banned.

I'm just saying that there's a lot more here than just money and fame.

There isn't. Fame and money is what drew these women into the industry in the first place.

I thought this was about the movie with the Nazis. My bad.

That's Wolfenstein. And that's a video game.

[Shofercia]

It's common sense. She makes more money acting, than doing anything else. There's no point in her being a gold digger.

You're probably not going to get far with this, she's a woman and there's a lawsuit involved, Costa can only assume one thing. It's like in his programing or something.

I disagree with that. Costa and I had some epic debates, perhaps a bit too epic for NSG

[Shofercia]

I'm talking about the others, like Rose McGowan.

So am I. Rose McGowan accepted a settlement for sexual harassment in 1997.

So you allegation is that Rose McGowan is a gold digger?

So if I was to publish a phone number that's been on late night TV ads, and known by thousands of people, would it be a violation if the advertiser says that it's private? Even though it was on cable?

No. If it was a private phone number, like someone's home phone or cellphone, it would be banned.

What if someone is running a casting business, and advertises their cell number as the number to call on the back of their van, and Google Maps takes a photo of said van where the number is visible?

I'm just saying that there's a lot more here than just money and fame.

There isn't. Fame and money is what drew these women into the industry in the first place.

You should come to Hollywood. You'd be surprised!

[Costa Fierro]

So you allegation is that Rose McGowan is a gold digger?

Perhaps, perhaps not. The settlement was for $100,000. She's also a self confessed "anti-rape social activist", as you stated in your post. The settlement she reached was for something in a hotel room that, according to the legal document reviewed by the New York Times, was for harassment. If she's not doing it to get a better settlement, then she's definitely doing it to further her public image.

What if someone is running a casting business, and advertises their cell number as the number to call on the back of their van, and Google Maps takes a photo of said van where the number is visible?

Not private. But most casting businesses wouldn't drive around in vans (well not legit ones anyway).

You should come to Hollywood. You'd be surprised!

Hollywood is one of the last places where altrusim is likely to exist.

[Dooom35796821595]

I thought this was about the movie with the Nazis. My bad.

That's Wolfenstein. And that's a video game.

Downfall, the source of the best hitler tantrum meme in existance.

[Shofercia]

So you allegation is that Rose McGowan is a gold digger?

Perhaps, perhaps not. The settlement was for $100,000. She's also a self confessed "anti-rape social activist", as you stated in your post. The settlement she reached was for something in a hotel room that, according to the legal document reviewed by the New York Times, was for harassment. If she's not doing it to get a better settlement, then she's definitely doing it to further her public image.

What if someone is running a casting business, and advertises their cell number as the number to call on the back of their van, and Google Maps takes a photo of said van where the number is visible?

Not private. But most casting businesses wouldn't drive around in vans (well not legit ones anyway).

You should come to Hollywood. You'd be surprised!

Hollywood is one of the last places where altrusim is likely to exist.

Again, if you lived here, you'd be surprised about Hollywood and altruism. As far as the phone number is concerned, there's still some debate as to whether it was really private. As for casting businesses - vans do make sense if you have a lot of props for casting. They don't fit in a Prius.

With that said, let's go to Rose McGowan. If she was in it just for the money - she could've gotten a lot more than $100k. That lowball of a settlement means that she tried exposing Harvey initially, and failed. She seems to be doing it to show that any rapist can be brought down, rather than furthering her image, because if she fails and he stays free, her image will be damaged. Unlike Jolie/Paltrow/Beckinsdale - she doesn't have the "I'm a superb actress" image to fall back on.

[Ethel mermania]

As to a specific criminal investigation, your point is fair. However industries in genenal have been subject to . A legislative hearing either congressional or at the state level that could potentially lead to criminal arrests or legislation. I would support such an investigation.

Well, after the Hollywood investigation, queue one up for every other industry ever.

When there are a substantial series of complaints of sexual assault in the electrical contracting industry, I will agree.

[Ifreann]

Well, after the Hollywood investigation, queue one up for every other industry ever.

When there are a substantial series of complaints of sexual assault in the electrical contracting industry, I will agree.

There were no complaints about Harvey Weinstein for years. Why do you want to cover up the sexual assaults in the electrical contracting industry?

[The Sauganash Union]

Fuckin' old creep.

Enjoy prison, dirtbag.

[Ethel mermania]

When there are a substantial series of complaints of sexual assault in the electrical contracting industry, I will agree.

There were no complaints about Harvey Weinstein for years. Why do you want to cover up the sexual assaults in the electrical contracting industry?

There were complaints about Harvey for decades, as with the industry as a whole for a lot longer

There was an article in the paper today.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/hollywoods ... weinstein/

[Costa Fierro]

Again, if you lived here, you'd be surprised about Hollywood and altruism.

Call me a cynic but I don't really see people doing things because they believe it's the right thing to do.

As far as the phone number is concerned, there's still some debate as to whether it was really private. As for casting businesses - vans do make sense if you have a lot of props for casting.

If Twitter believed that it was a violation, then it was well within it's rights to act the way it did.

They don't fit in a Prius.

Toyota really needs to up their game in their key demographic.

With that said, let's go to Rose McGowan. If she was in it just for the money - she could've gotten a lot more than $100k.

She could have, if she wasn't young, naive and had good lawyers.

That lowball of a settlement means that she tried exposing Harvey initially, and failed. She seems to be doing it to show that any rapist can be brought down, rather than furthering her image, because if she fails and he stays free, her image will be damaged. Unlike Jolie/Paltrow/Beckinsdale - she doesn't have the "I'm a superb actress" image to fall back on.

That's what makes it so much better for her if she can provide the evidence necessary in order to pursue charges. But it also what makes it so dangerous because if she fails, it will further damage the image of rape victims because she will come off as someone who was only in it for the publicity.

[Gauthier]

If Weinstein was just an average slob instead of a producer with the clout to boost or destroy acting careers on a whim he wouldn't have gotten away with harassing a woman auditioning as background extra, much less top actresses just beginning their Hollywood careers. Unsurprisingly, this being NSG there's been the inevitable rants that this was somehow the fault of women.

[Corrian]

Fuckin' old creep.

Enjoy prison, dirtbag.

If he ever goes to prison.

[Gauthier]

Fuckin' old creep.

Enjoy prison, dirtbag.

If he ever goes to prison.

If he was still untouchable (i.e. highly profitable) he wouldn't have been fired, much less become the subject of a formal investigation.

[Ifreann]

There were no complaints about Harvey Weinstein for years. Why do you want to cover up the sexual assaults in the electrical contracting industry?

There were complaints about Harvey for decades, as with the industry as a whole for a lot longer

There was an article in the paper today.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/hollywoods ... weinstein/

An article talking about complaints made in the last two weeks about events that span decades. So clearly the electrical contracting industry could be lousy with sexual misconduct and we wouldn't know. We need an FBI investigation at once.

[Ethel mermania]

There were complaints about Harvey for decades, as with the industry as a whole for a lot longer

There was an article in the paper today.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/16/hollywoods ... weinstein/

An article talking about complaints made in the last two weeks about events that span decades. So clearly the electrical contracting industry could be lousy with sexual misconduct and we wouldn't know. We need an FBI investigation at once.

Source that electrical contracting industry is lousy with sexual misconduct?

Also. I don't think you read the article as it talks about, among others darryl zanuck who died in 1979. So if darryl has been harassing women in the last two weeks I will admit there are bigger issues involved than just sexual harrassment.


Oh look the head of amazon studios just resigned because of sexual misconduct.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/media/r ... index.html

[Ifreann]

An article talking about complaints made in the last two weeks about events that span decades. So clearly the electrical contracting industry could be lousy with sexual misconduct and we wouldn't know. We need an FBI investigation at once.

Source that electrical contracting industry is lousy with sexual misconduct?

We won't know until the investigation has been concluded.

Also. I don't think you read the article as it talks about, among others darryl zanuck who died in 1979. So if darryl has been harassing women in the last two weeks I will admit there are bigger issues involved than just sexual harrassment.

You said that there have been complaints about Harvey Weinstein for decades. The late Darryl Zanuck is a different person from Harvey Weinstein.

Oh look the head of amazon studios just resigned because of sexual misconduct.

Clearly tech giants are lousy with sexual misconduct. FBI investigation immediately.

[Dumb Ideologies]

If he goes to prison his utter repugnancy will mean he is likely to miss out on soap-based activities. The best hope in that this guy's future involves a particularly unsexy looking rat giving him an intimate fang-based crotch massage while he lies there drug-addled, unable to move from his position at the bottom of the scrapheap, towered over even by the rest of the festering trash.

[Ethel mermania]

Source that electrical contracting industry is lousy with sexual misconduct?

We won't know until the investigation has been concluded.

Also. I don't think you read the article as it talks about, among others darryl zanuck who died in 1979. So if darryl has been harassing women in the last two weeks I will admit there are bigger issues involved than just sexual harrassment.

You said that there have been complaints about Harvey Weinstein for decades. The late Darryl Zanuck is a different person from Harvey Weinstein.

Oh look the head of amazon studios just resigned because of sexual misconduct.

Clearly tech giants are lousy with sexual misconduct. FBI investigation immediately.

Amazon studios where they make the vidies. Again wide spread sexual misconduct in the industry bUT at this point that doesn't really matter, does it?

[Ifreann]

If he goes to prison his utter repugnancy will mean he is likely to miss out on soap-based activities. The best hope in that this guy's future involves a particularly unsexy looking rat giving him an intimate fang-based crotch massage while he lies there drug-addled, unable to move from his position at the bottom of the scrapheap, towered over even by the rest of the festering trash.

Your brain is truly a place of wonder.

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We won't know until the investigation has been concluded.


You said that there have been complaints about Harvey Weinstein for decades. The late Darryl Zanuck is a different person from Harvey Weinstein.


Clearly tech giants are lousy with sexual misconduct. FBI investigation immediately.

Amazon studios where they make the vidies.

Yeah, I guessed from the "studios" bit. But I'm not interested in covering up sexual assault in tech giants, so I'm not going to oppose an FBI investigation.

Again wide spread sexual misconduct in the industry bUT at this point that doesn't really matter, does it?

How's that?

[Ethel mermania]

If he goes to prison his utter repugnancy will mean he is likely to miss out on soap-based activities. The best hope in that this guy's future involves a particularly unsexy looking rat giving him an intimate fang-based crotch massage while he lies there drug-addled, unable to move from his position at the bottom of the scrapheap, towered over even by the rest of the festering trash.

Your brain is truly a place of wonder.

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Amazon studios where they make the vidies.

Yeah, I guessed from the "studios" bit. But I'm not interested in covering up sexual assault in tech giants, so I'm not going to oppose an FBI investigation.

Again wide spread sexual misconduct in the industry bUT at this point that doesn't really matter, does it?

How's that?

Well if I presented evidence of malfeasance in every studio, you still would oppose an investigation, while hounding electricall contractors seems to be your direction. I weep for the poles.