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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:52 pm

We should erect regular Napoleon B. statues instead—he was a stand up guy.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:53 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:TBF, that's what they were gonna do with the Confederate stautes, then it got all out of hand.

Then I've got no issue with those either. I'm just not in favor of altering history, is all. Otherwise, I completely agree with the sentiments of taking statues down.

Eh statues of confederate leadership should be destroyed or melted down.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:54 pm

MERIZoC wrote:We should erect regular Napoleon B. statues instead—he was a stand up guy.


Can it be a statue of his army freezing to death in Russia?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:54 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Time for more abstract statues maybe?

Someone would pitch a fit about how it's a waste of money and isn't art.

I'm sure but I've never been comfortable with some of the ways we portray the past. Never felt like a country about democracy should have the kind of worship we have for certain people
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Postby Telconi » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:54 pm

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I would have kept Jackson rather than have Sanger on there.

I'd say MLK would have been the best.

MLK and Rosa Parks would have been good. Maybe we don't need to just have one person.


I like bank note designs that show an event on the reverse.

Like for a civil rights themed bank note.

Maybe something like a portrait of MLK on the obverse, with an etching of the Little Rock Nine going into the school under guard on the reverse.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:MLK and Rosa Parks would have been good. Maybe we don't need to just have one person.


I like bank note designs that show an event on the reverse.

Like for a civil rights themed bank note.

Maybe something like a portrait of MLK on the obverse, with an etching of the Little Rock Nine going into the school under guard on the reverse.


That sounds pretty cool.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:MLK and Rosa Parks would have been good. Maybe we don't need to just have one person.


I like bank note designs that show an event on the reverse.

Like for a civil rights themed bank note.

Maybe something like a portrait of MLK on the obverse, with an etching of the Little Rock Nine going into the school under guard on the reverse.

Again, maybe just not put people on money
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:59 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:MLK and Rosa Parks would have been good. Maybe we don't need to just have one person.


I like bank note designs that show an event on the reverse.

Like for a civil rights themed bank note.

Maybe something like a portrait of MLK on the obverse, with an etching of the Little Rock Nine going into the school under guard on the reverse.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:04 pm

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-shrug- Statues of racists get wrekt. I don't see why his being a Confederate officer is relevant. He was a racist.

So long as they aren't trying to sanitize history, I see no reason not to take it down.

Someone being a racist asshole isn't enough of a reason to take down a statue. If that's the case then all statues of Washington, and Thomas Jefferson should come down.

I wouldn't mind TJ's coming down. I doubt Washington would either.
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Postby Trumptonium » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:07 pm

How about celebrating a few more important figures in US history than a bus seat occupant?

I swear America's race problems are self-afflicted today.

Neither of the Roosevelts or Reagan have anything going for them.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:09 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Someone being a racist asshole isn't enough of a reason to take down a statue. If that's the case then all statues of Washington, and Thomas Jefferson should come down.

I wouldn't mind TJ's coming down. I doubt Washington would either.


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:12 pm

Trumptonium wrote:How about celebrating a few more important figures in US history than a bus seat occupant?

I swear America's race problems are self-afflicted today.

Neither of the Roosevelts or Reagan have anything going for them.

Rosa Parks was pretty fucking important
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:13 pm

Trumptonium wrote:How about celebrating a few more important figures in US history than a bus seat occupant?

I swear America's race problems are self-afflicted today.

Neither of the Roosevelts or Reagan have anything going for them.

Last time I checked just about everything possible has been named in Reagan's honor. USS Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Ronald Reagan Highway, Reagan State Park.

Also Rosa Parks wasn't just some bus seat occupant. It was illegal for her to sit there on the bus, under the law she had to get up and go to the back of the bus if a white person got on. She stood up for herself and stayed right there.

But then again I wouldn't expect a white nationalist to understand that.
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Postby Cruxa » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Trumptonium wrote:How about celebrating a few more important figures in US history than a bus seat occupant?

I swear America's race problems are self-afflicted today.

Neither of the Roosevelts or Reagan have anything going for them.

Last time I checked just about everything possible has been named in Reagan's honor. USS Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Ronald Reagan Highway, Reagan State Park.

Also Rosa Parks wasn't just some bus seat occupant. It was illegal for her to sit there on the bus, under the law she had to get up and go to the back of the bus if a white person got on. She stood up for herself and stayed right there.

But then again I wouldn't expect a white nationalist to understand that.

This. While I like and respect Reagan, I think Rosa Parks did a tiny bit more for America than Reagan.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:38 pm

Cruxa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Last time I checked just about everything possible has been named in Reagan's honor. USS Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Ronald Reagan Highway, Reagan State Park.

Also Rosa Parks wasn't just some bus seat occupant. It was illegal for her to sit there on the bus, under the law she had to get up and go to the back of the bus if a white person got on. She stood up for herself and stayed right there.

But then again I wouldn't expect a white nationalist to understand that.

This. While I like and respect Reagan, I think Rosa Parks did a tiny bit more for America than Reagan.

Oh I'm not disagreeing. Just the idea that Reagan isn't memorialized is just plain dumb
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:39 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:I wouldn't mind TJ's coming down. I doubt Washington would either.


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Postby Engleberg » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:57 pm

Florida is already a backasswards hole of unknown descriptions, and now another statue is being removed.

Can we just stop removing everything that is called "racist," and instead teach people why they were "bad" or their history while keeping the statue in place?

I cannot wait until Revolutionary War statues celebrating the Founding Fathers are removed because they had slaves, that's gonna be fun.

In other nations, why don't the three Soviet statues within Berlin get removed? The Soviets were war criminals and a horrific nation - so why not apply this method of thinking to it?
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Postby The Grene Knyght » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:06 pm

They're touching up their interior decorating in a state owned building with something a bit more tasteful,so what?
Its not like this is a famous monument, or a historical treasure (its dated to 1982).
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Postby Herador » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:17 pm

Telconi wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:MLK and Rosa Parks would have been good. Maybe we don't need to just have one person.


I like bank note designs that show an event on the reverse.

Like for a civil rights themed bank note.

Maybe something like a portrait of MLK on the obverse, with an etching of the Little Rock Nine going into the school under guard on the reverse.

That's a really cool idea, I'd love that.
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Postby United States of Red Dawn » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:21 pm

Trumptonium wrote:Not long left until we start removing statues of Roosevelt because he was a racist.

Then again watching lefties cry their heart out at the oppressive presence of a sculptured rock is quite funny so I hope we do it slowly.

Lincoln and Jefferson would be considered 'racist' by the standards of some today. I bet some people would love to go that far too....
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Postby The of Japan » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:22 pm

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Trumptonium wrote:Not long left until we start removing statues of Roosevelt because he was a racist.

Then again watching lefties cry their heart out at the oppressive presence of a sculptured rock is quite funny so I hope we do it slowly.

Lincoln and Jefferson would be considered 'racist' by the standards of some today. I bet some people would love to go that far too....

They are already going at statues of the Founding Fathers because of just that.
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Postby Engleberg » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:22 pm

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United States of Red Dawn wrote:Lincoln and Jefferson would be considered 'racist' by the standards of some today. I bet some people would love to go that far too....

They are already going at statues of the Founding Fathers because of just that.


You're shitting me, right?

I only posted that statement in my earlier post as a joke for what's next.
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In other nations, why don't the three Soviet statues within Berlin get removed? The Soviets were war criminals and a horrific nation - so why not apply this method of thinking to it?

The current leadership would never allow it.
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Postby The of Japan » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:23 pm

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The of Japan wrote:They are already going at statues of the Founding Fathers because of just that.


You're shitting me, right?

I only posted that statement in my earlier post as a joke for what's next.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:25 pm

Engleberg wrote:Florida is already a backasswards hole of unknown descriptions, and now another statue is being removed.

Can we just stop removing everything that is called "racist," and instead teach people why they were "bad" or their history while keeping the statue in place?

I cannot wait until Revolutionary War statues celebrating the Founding Fathers are removed because they had slaves, that's gonna be fun.

In other nations, why don't the three Soviet statues within Berlin get removed? The Soviets were war criminals and a horrific nation - so why not apply this method of thinking to it?


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