Statue Removal Megathread: Is History In Danger or What?

[Proctopeo]

If so, that's rad. I wonder what his mustache would look like on a giant statue.

sorry i thought you were referring to the ancient Colossus of Rhodes.

No, I was saying that we make a statue of Governor Broward using the Colossus of Rhodes as an example.

[San Lumen]

sorry i thought you were referring to the ancient Colossus of Rhodes.

No, I was saying that we make a statue of Governor Broward using the Colossus of Rhodes as an example.

Sorry I misread your post. I sometimes have difficulty with the meaning of sentences.

[Ifreann]

I personally thought it went too far when statues started getting vandalized, but yes, this is too far.
In protest, we need to construct a massive bronze statue of this governor, a la the Colossus of Rhodes, but resistant to natural disasters. Why? Why not?

America already has a colossus. It's in New York.

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At least you tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY0mQUWO9_Q

Maybe it's time for a nutjob reservation. Like on some island in the ocean

That's your answer to everything.

[Thermodolia]

I personally thought it went too far when statues started getting vandalized, but yes, this is too far.
In protest, we need to construct a massive bronze statue of this governor, a la the Colossus of Rhodes, but resistant to natural disasters. Why? Why not?

America already has a colossus. It's in New York.

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Maybe it's time for a nutjob reservation. Like on some island in the ocean

That's your answer to everything.

It's a good answer!!

[Ifreann]

America already has a colossus. It's in New York.

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That's your answer to everything.

It's a good answer!!

When all you have is deportation, every problem looks like an unwanted minority.

[The Portland Territory]

I found this story a bit troubling.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/browa ... story.html
Napoleon Bonaparte Broward was governor of Florida from 1905 to 1908 and was a unapologetic racist and also pushed for the draining of the Everglades. Broward County in Florida is named for him and there is a statue of him in the county courthouse bearing his name.

I do not disagree that statues of Confederate generals should be removed and placed in museums. Many of them were put up during the era of Jim Crow as a form of intimidation. Some were even donated by KKK members. Furthermore Traitors should not be honored in public squares. This however is going to far in my view. The man was governor of the state not a Confederate general. I wonder if some will decide later the county should be renamed. I think some people are taking the statue controversy way to far and it almost seems like they are trying to act as if certain parts of history never happened.

What's your take on this NSG? Is the statue controversy going to far?

-shrug- Statues of racists get wrekt. I don't see why his being a Confederate officer is relevant. He was a racist.

So long as they aren't trying to sanitize history, I see no reason not to take it down.

George Washington was a racist, take his statue down

Thomas Jefferson was a racist, take his statue down

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist, take his statue down

They're racists, aren't they? Doesnt matter what they did for this country, theyre racist!

[Proctopeo]

No, I was saying that we make a statue of Governor Broward using the Colossus of Rhodes as an example.

Sorry I misread your post. I sometimes have difficulty with the meaning of sentences.

That's fine. It happens.

I personally thought it went too far when statues started getting vandalized, but yes, this is too far.
In protest, we need to construct a massive bronze statue of this governor, a la the Colossus of Rhodes, but resistant to natural disasters. Why? Why not?

America already has a colossus. It's in New York.

No rule states that a country can only have one colossus.
We should have at least one per state!

[Ifreann]

Sorry I misread your post. I sometimes have difficulty with the meaning of sentences.

That's fine. It happens.

America already has a colossus. It's in New York.

No rule states that a country can only have one colossus.
We should have at least one per state!

On your head be it if they start fighting.

[Thermodolia]

It's a good answer!!

When all you have is deportation, every problem looks like an unwanted minority.

Right because I said anything about deporting minorities. If I remember correctly I said we should create a nutjob reservation, but on an American island in the pacific.

[Rusozak]

-shrug- Statues of racists get wrekt. I don't see why his being a Confederate officer is relevant. He was a racist.

So long as they aren't trying to sanitize history, I see no reason not to take it down.

George Washington was a racist, take his statue down

Thomas Jefferson was a racist, take his statue down

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist, take his statue down

They're racists, aren't they? Doesnt matter what they did for this country, theyre racist!

American history and uncomfortable and full of injustice. Keep in mind this is the country that has only for barely 50 years now treated non-whites as people under the law. Some don't like to be reminded of their ugly heritage.

[Proctopeo]

That's fine. It happens.


No rule states that a country can only have one colossus.
We should have at least one per state!

On your head be it if they start fighting.

Fighting with great works is preferable to fighting with fire and steel.

[Valgora]

George Washington was a racist, take his statue down

Thomas Jefferson was a racist, take his statue down

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist, take his statue down

They're racists, aren't they? Doesnt matter what they did for this country, theyre racist!

American history and uncomfortable and full of injustice. Keep in mind this is the country that has only for barely 50 years now treated non-whites as people under the law. Some don't like to be reminded of their ugly heritage.

I guess if you think about it.
Some people just have different ways of whitewashing history.

[San Lumen]

George Washington was a racist, take his statue down

Thomas Jefferson was a racist, take his statue down

Teddy Roosevelt was a racist, take his statue down

They're racists, aren't they? Doesnt matter what they did for this country, theyre racist!

American history and uncomfortable and full of injustice. Keep in mind this is the country that has only for barely 50 years now treated non-whites as people under the law. Some don't like to be reminded of their ugly heritage.

Well it seems some want to go back to a time before that while others want to act like it never happened.

[Ifreann]

When all you have is deportation, every problem looks like an unwanted minority.

Right because I said anything about deporting minorities. If I remember correctly I said we should create a nutjob reservation, but on an American island in the pacific.

Oh, well, if you're only moving minorities to another part of your territory then that's obviously fine.

[Sovaal]

Put. It. In. A. Museum.


Done. Both sides are happy.

At least you tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY0mQUWO9_Q

Yah, stupid imperialist non-avian supremacist dinosaur skeletons. It's current year, disgusting./s

[Sovaal]

There's a difference between erasing bad history and not commemorating bad history. Confederate generals and folks like this Governor have a place in history textbooks, museums, and articles explaining our past. They don't deserve to have monuments dedicated to them, nor should we specifically respect their memories.

Question here, on what grounds should we dedicate a statue to someone?

[San Lumen]

At least you tried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY0mQUWO9_Q

Yah, stupid imperialist non-avian supremacist dinosaur skeletons. It's current year, disgusting./s

That;s just utter insanity.

[Sovaal]

Yah, stupid imperialist non-avian supremacist dinosaur skeletons. It's current year, disgusting./s

That;s just utter insanity.

Well this is an insane world.

[The Parkus Empire]

Why should people honor someone they no longer like? The guy was an asshole, why should their be a statue to him?

We still observe Columbus Day, but at least that has the reason of taking time off work.

[Valgora]

Why should people honor someone they no longer like? The guy was an asshole, why should their be a statue to him?

We still observe Columbus Day, but at least that has the reason of taking time off work.

I prefer Leif Erikson Day.



This gif would have worked better two days ago.

[Torrocca]

As our resident Florida Man, get him outta here!

Also, what the fuck we have a statue of a governor? The shit, Florida?

[Valgora]

As our resident Florida Man, get him outta here!

Also, what the fuck we have a statue of a governor? The shit, Florida?

Plenty of states have statues of governors.

[Torrocca]

As our resident Florida Man, get him outta here!

Also, what the fuck we have a statue of a governor? The shit, Florida?

Plenty of states have statues of governors.

Yeah, that sounds odd as fuck.

I mean, unless the dude or dudette did something extremely positive, I can't think of a reason why there'd be one.

[Liriena]

If the people today don't feel like the man is worthy of reverence and glorification, they are within their right to remove objects meant to glorify him. The decisions of one generation can be overruled by those that succeed it, and that includes who a society holds up as worthy of admiration and commemoration.

Hypothetically, if the vast majority of the American people one day collectively decided that the Founding Fathers are no longer worthy of reverence, they would be well within their rights to try and remove each and every monument in their name.

[Ifreann]

As our resident Florida Man, get him outta here!

Also, what the fuck we have a statue of a governor? The shit, Florida?

Florida should obviously have statues to Florida Man, depicting him engaged in his many and varied shenanigans.