Gay coffee shop owner kicks out Christians

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

i literally could not give less of a shit in the context of who's kicking who out, but America needs to decide if they're going to allow discriminatory refusal of service or disallow it and apply the law consistently

i don't want anyone to be a protected class one way or another

>america
>consistent decisionmaking
>making decisions at all

lol

last time we made a unilateral decision on the world stage we invaded the middle east.

sometimes things are worth talking out.

[Thermodolia]

>america
>consistent decisionmaking
>making decisions at all

lol

We are very consistent. We consistently decide to be argumentative and the most litigious nation on Earth

No we aren't!!! I'm going to sue the pants off of you!!

[Thermodolia]

>america
>consistent decisionmaking
>making decisions at all

lol

last time we made a unilateral decision on the world stage we invaded the middle east.

sometimes things are worth talking out.

We could always nuke Japan again

[Shofercia]

last time we made a unilateral decision on the world stage we invaded the middle east.

sometimes things are worth talking out.

We could always nuke Japan again

We should. What if North Korea nukes Japan before the US does it?

[Senkaku]

That's true though........ but the matter of truth is, it already is escalating, and personally I think government should seek to stop further complications of the issue

See, I want harmonious interaction. I just think that forcing people together via threat is not the way to get harmony, it creates resentment.

At the end of the day everyone just wants harmonious interaction tbh


Sadly, us humans are really fucking bad at it lol

[Infected Mushroom]

What is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander

Just as religious people should be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups, so should gay people be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups. The freedom to run your business applies to everyone.

[San Lumen]

What is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander

Just as religious people should be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups, so should gay people be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups.

So we should just get rid of all anti discrimination laws including the Civil Rights Act?

[Infected Mushroom]

What is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander

Just as religious people should be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups, so should gay people be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups.

So we should just get rid of all anti discrimination laws including the Civil Rights Act?

It should be reworked so that it only applies to government institutions

[Wysten]

What is sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander

Just as religious people should be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups, so should gay people be allowed to (if they wish) refuse to provide service to certain groups.

So we should just get rid of all anti discrimination laws including the Civil Rights Act?

Well in today's modern age business care more about the color green that any skin color.

[San Lumen]

So we should just get rid of all anti discrimination laws including the Civil Rights Act?

It should be reworked so that it only applies to government institutions

Why? Why should a business be able to pick and choose who they serve? Do you know what things were like in the South before the Civil Rights Act? Entire towns wouldn't serve African Americans. They should have just thrown up their hands and said oh well?

[Infected Mushroom]

It should be reworked so that it only applies to government institutions

Why? Why should a business be able to pick and choose who they serve? Do you know what things were like in the South before the Civil Rights Act? Entire towns wouldn't serve African Americans. They should have just thrown up their hands and said oh well?

Because of commercial freedom, freedom of contract, principles of free market (voluntary transactions).

So long as the government is obligated to serve everyone equally, there's no risk of going back to the 1960s. Today's businesses (the vast majority) value profit above all else anyways.

[Infected Mushroom]

So we should just get rid of all anti discrimination laws including the Civil Rights Act?

Well in today's modern age business care more about the color green that any skin color.

So the Mask would make a premium customer?

[Wysten]

Well in today's modern age business care more about the color green that any skin color.

So the Mask would make a premium customer?

Its a reference to money

[Telconi]

It should be reworked so that it only applies to government institutions

Why? Why should a business be able to pick and choose who they serve? Do you know what things were like in the South before the Civil Rights Act? Entire towns wouldn't serve African Americans. They should have just thrown up their hands and said oh well?

Because slavery is wrong?

[Omnonia]

Because of commercial freedom, freedom of contract, principles of free market (voluntary transactions).

Don't forget freedom of association, either.

[Borovan4]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ2JN2ANfTU

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/ ... tian-rant/

Davis and her fellow activists, seeking to relax after handing out pamphlets, went into Seattle’s Bedlam coffee shop. According to Davis, they didn’t engage anyone, or — as previously said — bring any of their literature into the shop with them. They got their coffee, and went upstairs into the lounge area to relax.

Only minutes later, the owner of the coffee shop burst into the room and demanded they leave.

CONTEXT:
Basically, a group of Pro-Life activists were handing out pamphlets to the public about abortion, homosexuality, etc. They want to take a coffee break, and do at a local Seattle coffee shop. They do not interact with others nor bring out any pamphlets, they simply just enjoy their coffee. Then the owner, who is homosexual, comes out and begins to harass the customers, making lewd statements and attacking their faith. In the end, those who initially were handing out the pamphlets plus other Christians within the room were forced to leave because of their faith.

OPINION:
Well this brings a whole new side to the Christian baker controversy. I personally do not see any legal problem with the owner kicking them out because of their beliefs, but that is because I believe than any small-business owner can do so, which also goes for the Christian baker. Though I find it surprising to see the hypocrisy on this owner's part for kicking them out because of their beliefs while, I assume, protesting against the baker controversy.

Your thoughts, NSG?

Totally stupid. Christians kick out gays for religous beliefs? Dumb. Gays kick out Christians for political beliefs? Equally dumb.

[San Lumen]

Why? Why should a business be able to pick and choose who they serve? Do you know what things were like in the South before the Civil Rights Act? Entire towns wouldn't serve African Americans. They should have just thrown up their hands and said oh well?

Because of commercial freedom, freedom of contract, principles of free market (voluntary transactions).

So long as the government is obligated to serve everyone equally, there's no risk of going back to the 1960s. Today's businesses (the vast majority) value profit above all else anyways.

And you know this how? Go take a visit to the South sometime. Racism is still very prevalent there. If they had the opportunity i bet many of them would exclude non whites.

If you have a business you serve all or none at all. If you want to discriminate open a private club.

[Wysten]

Because of commercial freedom, freedom of contract, principles of free market (voluntary transactions).

So long as the government is obligated to serve everyone equally, there's no risk of going back to the 1960s. Today's businesses (the vast majority) value profit above all else anyways.

And you know this how? Go take a visit to the South sometime. Racism is still very prevalent there. If they had the opportunity i bet many of them would exclude non whites.

If you have a business you serve all or none at all. If you want to discriminate open a private club.

When you live in the south

[San Lumen]

And you know this how? Go take a visit to the South sometime. Racism is still very prevalent there. If they had the opportunity i bet many of them would exclude non whites.

If you have a business you serve all or none at all. If you want to discriminate open a private club.

When you live in the south

Im not in the South thankfully.

[Wysten]

When you live in the south

Im not in the South thankfully.

Sorry I was talking about myself I forgot to put the star

[San Lumen]

Im not in the South thankfully.

Sorry I was talking about myself I forgot to put the star

I apologize for generalizing. But one cannot deny there is still quite a bit of racism in the South.

[Neutraligon]

Sorry I was talking about myself I forgot to put the star

I apologize for generalizing. But one cannot deny there is still quite a bit of racism in the South.

South and North do not matter. what if the only gas station in a small town refuses to serve a customer because they are black.

[Thermodolia]

Sorry I was talking about myself I forgot to put the star

I apologize for generalizing. But one cannot deny there is still quite a bit of racism in the South.

Only if you go out to the middle of nowhere. There's no more racism in the majority of the south than there is in the rest of the US

[San Lumen]

I apologize for generalizing. But one cannot deny there is still quite a bit of racism in the South.

South and North do not matter. what if the only gas station in town refuses to serve a customer because they are black.

Thats the point I've been trying to make but according to some thats their right and to force them to serve them is oppression or violating their rights.

[Senkaku]

I apologize for generalizing. But one cannot deny there is still quite a bit of racism in the South.

Only if you go out to the middle of nowhere. There's no more racism in the majority of the south than there is in the rest of the US

Yes, but not serving people is still a problem, because sometimes there aren't practical alternatives. Hence non-discrimination laws, whether it be for blacks or gays or Christians. No one should is a second-class citizen.