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by Stiltball » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 pm

by Principality of the Raix » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:16 pm

by Anarchitaria » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:39 pm

by Anarchitaria » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:43 pm
Gyrenaica wrote:My go to answer for his is George Washington- only president to not blame the previous administration.


by Alba-Nord » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:47 pm
Ceresnia wrote:Either Reagan or Trump

by Gyrenaica » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:08 pm
Alba-Nord wrote:Ceresnia wrote:Either Reagan or Trump
Both are Horrific candidates. Regan ruined your economy with his so-called 'Reganonmics' and Trump is the pin-up boy for anger at the financial crash that AMERICAN banks created.
Obama is the true winner here. Not for his triumphs at home, the GOP stopped that in his tracks all because they disliked his skin tone. But he showed the world that an Americans can have compassion, class and empathy. He lit up the room when he entered but was brash and bullish when he needed to be, for instance when the Chinese and Indian HoS backhanded his summit on Co2 emissions, he marched into the meeting, calmly sat down and said, "So, what you boys talking about?". He was respected on the global stage, something America needed after Iraq and something America continues to require well into the future. Americans may find it hard to believe Obama was you 'best' president, but he tried and tried to push his policies through. The reason why nothing was achieved, and why the economy didnt bounce back fast enough is because of the GOP.

by United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:10 pm
Gyrenaica wrote:Alba-Nord wrote:
Both are Horrific candidates. Regan ruined your economy with his so-called 'Reganonmics' and Trump is the pin-up boy for anger at the financial crash that AMERICAN banks created.
Obama is the true winner here. Not for his triumphs at home, the GOP stopped that in his tracks all because they disliked his skin tone. But he showed the world that an Americans can have compassion, class and empathy. He lit up the room when he entered but was brash and bullish when he needed to be, for instance when the Chinese and Indian HoS backhanded his summit on Co2 emissions, he marched into the meeting, calmly sat down and said, "So, what you boys talking about?". He was respected on the global stage, something America needed after Iraq and something America continues to require well into the future. Americans may find it hard to believe Obama was you 'best' president, but he tried and tried to push his policies through. The reason why nothing was achieved, and why the economy didnt bounce back fast enough is because of the GOP.
Gotta agree with this (kind of)
Didn't agree with him politically, but certainly was a very well respected president, something America doesn't have anymore.

by Harkback Union » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:05 pm

by Vassenor » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:09 pm
Harkback Union wrote:3 letters:
F.D.R.
Every other president US president I know of was either A raving lunatic, some corrupt criminal, or a warmongering bully...
And slave owners, running gulag plantations, stealing land from underneath Mexicans and Natives...
The list goes on, and don't even mention the founding fathers...
And yes, I accounted for JFK, Teddy, Woodrow and the other icons.
Except for maybe, maybe Lincoln. Okay, Lincoln all right.

by Major-Tom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:33 pm
Vassenor wrote:Harkback Union wrote:3 letters:
F.D.R.
Every other president US president I know of was either A raving lunatic, some corrupt criminal, or a warmongering bully...
And slave owners, running gulag plantations, stealing land from underneath Mexicans and Natives...
The list goes on, and don't even mention the founding fathers...
And yes, I accounted for JFK, Teddy, Woodrow and the other icons.
Except for maybe, maybe Lincoln. Okay, Lincoln all right.
So where does internment fit into that graph?

by Fauxia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:40 pm
Wise words

by Collatis » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:45 pm
Harkback Union wrote:Every other president US president I know of was either A raving lunatic, some corrupt criminal, or a warmongering bully...
And slave owners, running gulag plantations, stealing land from underneath Mexicans and Natives...
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by Major-Tom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:48 pm


by Crockerland » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:51 pm
Harkback Union wrote:3 letters:
F.D.R.
Every other president US president I know of was either A raving lunatic, some corrupt criminal, or a warmongering bully...
And slave owners, running gulag plantations, stealing land from underneath Mexicans and Natives...
Harkback Union wrote:And yes, I accounted for JFK,

by United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:52 pm

by Major-Tom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:52 pm
Crockerland wrote:Harkback Union wrote:3 letters:
F.D.R.
Every other president US president I know of was either A raving lunatic, some corrupt criminal, or a warmongering bully...
And slave owners, running gulag plantations, stealing land from underneath Mexicans and Natives...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grover_ClevelandHarkback Union wrote:And yes, I accounted for JFK,
I really don't think you did.

by Major-Tom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:58 pm
Russoslava wrote:Ronald Reagan. Hands down.

by Fauxia » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:58 pm
I’m not denying the effectiveness of the new deal. I just think most forms of stimulus only work sometimes.Major-Tom wrote:Fauxia wrote:Wise words![]()
I mean, I’m against his economic stances anyway, but there are other problems
I mean, the New Deal itself was fairly successful in alleviating many symptoms of the Great Depression, and I think some of what he did has a positive lasting effect today. But he was also borderline authoritarian and unconstitutional in some regards, interned the Japanese, and implemented some parts of the New Deal too hastily.
Not a horrible president, definitely a defining and influential one, but not the best president either. I prefer the other Roosevelt.
Just. Lol.
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