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Postby Telconi » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:50 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I'd be a helluva lost more afraid without a weapon.

This is one of the reasons I do not understand America. You consider yourselves living in the "most free country on earth" and yet you are terrified of everything.


Who's terrified? Also, I don't understand how those two things are related.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:50 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Camicon wrote:I think it's unnecessary, unless someone has specifically threatened to hurt you or your loved ones.

Well I'm openly gay living in the US south.

Investing in body armor isn't a bad idea either.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:51 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Possibly. But what does the gambling have to do with this?

He felt wronged perhaps. And he wanted sweet revenge.

Bitterness and revenge are powerful emotions, especially if he felt he had no where left to go.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:51 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I carry a 44 Magnum Desert Eagle. Reason? I want it for self-defense. I've actually had to use it once.


How would it have helped you in this case though ?
So - time to get a *bigger* gun ?

If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:51 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Possibly. But what does the gambling have to do with this?

He felt wronged perhaps. And he wanted sweet revenge.

But why take it out on a bunch of innocent people? Wouldn't make more sense to shoot up the casino instead?
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I want my St. Remy's Brandy right now. I got my M4 with the ACOG Sight, and I'm ready to roll!

Good luck hitting the side of a barn

Y'all are really horrible man your making me laugh when I shouldn't
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:52 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:He felt wronged perhaps. And he wanted sweet revenge.

Bitterness and revenge are powerful emotions, especially if he felt he had no where left to go.

They make you commit irreprehensible acts of desperation and violence that would normally never be seen in said individual.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:52 am

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well I'm openly gay living in the US south.

Investing in body armor isn't a bad idea either.

Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:52 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
How would it have helped you in this case though ?
So - time to get a *bigger* gun ?

If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

No you wouldn't. If you began firing in that area you'd be considered the threat. Moreover you'd be firing across a panicked crowd at a building full of people.
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:52 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
How would it have helped you in this case though ?
So - time to get a *bigger* gun ?

If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

It always helps to have an extra armed civilian throwing bullets about the place.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:He felt wronged perhaps. And he wanted sweet revenge.

But why take it out on a bunch of innocent people? Wouldn't make more sense to shoot up the casino instead?

Bitterness and revenge don't discriminate when mixed together.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:53 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No it doesn't.

What would you say?

That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.


Greater Cesnica wrote:
Camicon wrote:I think it's unnecessary, unless someone has specifically threatened to hurt you or your loved ones.

I carry a 44 Magnum Desert Eagle. Reason? I want it for self-defense. I've actually had to use it once.

Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.


Greater Cesnica wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
How would it have helped you in this case though ?
So - time to get a *bigger* gun ?

If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:53 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Good luck hitting the side of a barn

Y'all are really horrible man your making me laugh when I shouldn't

My job here is done
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:54 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

No you wouldn't. If you began firing in that area you'd be considered the threat. Moreover you'd be firing across a panicked crowd at a building full of people.

See, when you're aiming upwards... It's a bit different.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What would you say?

That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.


Greater Cesnica wrote:I carry a 44 Magnum Desert Eagle. Reason? I want it for self-defense. I've actually had to use it once.

Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.


Greater Cesnica wrote:If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

Ronny's Star Wars bruh.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:55 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:No you wouldn't. If you began firing in that area you'd be considered the threat. Moreover you'd be firing across a panicked crowd at a building full of people.

See, when you're aiming upwards... It's a bit different.

You couldn't have taken him out dude. He's way to high up. Get your ass to cover.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:55 am

Sovaal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.



Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.



He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

Ronny's Star Wars bruh.

Ronny knew better than to wage war on the stars with an oversized pistol.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:55 am

Ifreann wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:What would you say?

That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.


Greater Cesnica wrote:I carry a 44 Magnum Desert Eagle. Reason? I want it for self-defense. I've actually had to use it once.

Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.


Greater Cesnica wrote:If I had some cover, I would have tried to engage him. The Deagle has a surprisingly good range and low spread.

He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

Point A:

It was a joke.

Point B: The Desert Eagle is actually really powerful and useful.

Point C: Ehhh, you're right on that one... partially. It's better to try to fight back if armed than not do anything.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:See, when you're aiming upwards... It's a bit different.

You couldn't have taken him out dude. He's way to high up. Get your ass to cover.

Better to try than not.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:56 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Shamhnan Insir wrote:No you wouldn't. If you began firing in that area you'd be considered the threat. Moreover you'd be firing across a panicked crowd at a building full of people.

See, when you're aiming upwards... It's a bit different.

Yes your bullets fall back down due to gravity.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:57 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.



Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.



He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

Point C: Ehhh, you're right on that one... partially. It's better to try to fight back if armed than not do anything.

And what? Hit someone else because your shot went wide?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:57 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Ifreann wrote:That he blinked when the picture was taken. Plus if he had overdosed on a cocktail of drugs he wouldn't be upright, holding a shot glass, with someone leaning on his arm. He'd be on the floor, dying.



Carrying a lead weight would probably be as effective.



He was on the 32nd floor of the hotel across the street. You'd be as well trying to shoot down a satellite.

Point A:

It was a joke.

Point B: The Desert Eagle is actually really powerful and useful.

Point C: Ehhh, you're right on that one... partially. It's better to try to fight back if armed than not do anything.

So you need a bigger gun.
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:57 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Ronny's Star Wars bruh.

Ronny knew better than to wage war on the stars with an oversized pistol.

Yah, that sounds more like a Dubya thing.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:57 am

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You couldn't have taken him out dude. He's way to high up. Get your ass to cover.

Better to try than not.

Look dude if the military and police wouldn't try it neither should you
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:58 am

Local news is reporting that someone my family was friends with was killed in the shooting. I didn't know him very well, but I had been to parties at his house.
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