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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:26 am

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Camicon wrote:And why do you carry everyday? Because you just enjoy the feeling of having a weapon able to kill a dozen people at range in half a minute? Or for self-defence?

I carry everyday because when I was an officer it was required to carry when off duty, and it got to be a habit.

It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

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Camicon wrote:And why do you carry everyday? Because you just enjoy the feeling of having a weapon able to kill a dozen people at range in half a minute? Or for self-defence?


Self-defence are you fucking serious right now?

So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.
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Self-defence are you fucking serious right now?

I'm gonna report that for flamebaiting.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:27 am

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Thermodolia wrote:No. There was only one suspect. The police didn't shoot anyone

Really? I read there was 3 shooters. I guess it was right as the attack happened so info was blurry. sorry.

People say stuff like that when it's happening because at that moment your more concerned about getting out alive then accurate information when it's ongoing afterwards though you can sort things out.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:28 am

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Galloism wrote:I carry everyday because when I was an officer it was required to carry when off duty, and it got to be a habit.

It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

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Self-defence are you fucking serious right now?

So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.

No, they carry a firearm to defend themselves against people who would want to harm them.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:28 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I'm gonna report that for flamebaiting.

How is that flamebaiting?

How is it any concern of yours? The Mods will decide, so let the system run it's course. Let's not derail the thread with rules lawyering.
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Postby Nakena » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:28 am

Kennlind wrote:BANNING GUNS DOESN'T CAUSE STUFF LIKE THIS TO STOP!!
Ban the weapon and what's that gonna do? Push people who are WILLING TO COMMIT A TERROR ATTACK to go and buy them illegally giving money to criminals!!! Sort the underlying problems that drove these people to commit these attacks!!


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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:29 am

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Galloism wrote:I carry everyday because when I was an officer it was required to carry when off duty, and it got to be a habit.

It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

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Self-defence are you fucking serious right now?

So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.

Yep, never once have people been assaulted or killed with non-firearm weapons!/s

Turns out most people are bloodthirsty and waiting for the first excuse to kill someone.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:29 am

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:How is that flamebaiting?

How is it any concern of yours? The Mods will decide, so let the system run it's course. Let's not derail the thread with rules lawyering.

I reported it already.
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Postby Kash Island » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:29 am

Camicon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I carry everyday because when I was an officer it was required to carry when off duty, and it got to be a habit.

It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

Kash Island wrote:
Self-defence are you fucking serious right now?

So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.


What a foolish arguement

I carry because there are criminals and they have guns/knifes/bats or multiple groups.

What happens when my husband and i encounter three men who want to hurt me?

Also it helps woman equal the playing field against some rapists.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:31 am

Camicon wrote:
Galloism wrote:I carry everyday because when I was an officer it was required to carry when off duty, and it got to be a habit.

It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

/shrug

The department never wanted us to get caught flat footed.

I mean, it's a bit like wearing your seatbelt in an airliner while it's cruising. The chances of actually needing it are pretty stinking small. However, when you suddenly hit clear air turbulence without warning, you'll be glad you had it on.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:31 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:I'm gonna report that for flamebaiting.

How is that flamebaiting?

It's hinting that he carries a gun for the feeling of power over others to kill them.
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Postby Kash Island » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:31 am

Galloism wrote:
Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

/shrug

The department never wanted us to get caught flat footed.

I mean, it's a bit like wearing your seatbelt in an airliner while it's cruising. The chances of actually needing it are pretty stinking small. However, when you suddenly hit clear air turbulence without warning, you'll be glad you had it on.



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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:32 am

Kash Island wrote:
Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.


So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.


What a foolish arguement

I carry because there are criminals and they have guns/knifes/bats or multiple groups.

What happens when my husband and i encounter three men who want to hurt me?

Also it helps woman equal the playing field against some rapists.

I am 18 and I carry.
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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:33 am

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Look we get it, you hate people having guns.

No, I hate people dying unnecessarily because of the USA's fucked up firearm regulations. Or, rather, lack thereof.

The gun used in this incident was almost certainly not legal. You can't just walk into Walmart and buy an AK.

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“Must have been some complex, sinister conspiracy. Couldn't be that one kook with a bunch of guns and ammunition started shooting at a dense crowd. There had to be something else.”

Your lack of empathy for the deceased is troubling..

My unwillingness to bend to groupthink conspiracy theorizing is now “lack of empathy.” Wow. We're reaching levels of irony here that shouldn't even be possible.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:33 am

Kash Island wrote:
Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.


So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.


What a foolish arguement

I carry because there are criminals and they have guns/knifes/bats or multiple groups.

What happens when my husband and i encounter three men who want to hurt me?

Also it helps woman equal the playing field against some rapists.

From this I gather you live a life in perpetual fear.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:34 am

Dysmastan wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:“Innocent people died.”

“Must have been some complex, sinister conspiracy. Couldn't be that one kook with a bunch of guns and ammunition started shooting at a dense crowd. There had to be something else.”


Your lack of empathy for the deceased is troubling..

Your baseless insistence that the real shooter somehow vanished into the night, leaving dead Stephen Paddock to take the fall, is vastly more troubling than us mocking the absurdity of that scenario.

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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:34 am

Sovaal wrote:
Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.


So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.

Yep, never once have people been assaulted or killed with non-firearm weapons!/s

Turns out most people are bloodthirsty and waiting for the first excuse to kill someone.

There was a terrorist attack in Edmonton the other day. Attacker used two cars and a knife. Four injuries, no fatalities.

Just know, I am amused to no end by the fact that you feel the need to carry around a firearm in order to feel physically safe, because you've convinced yourself that there are marauding, bloodthirsty gangs out to get you.
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Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.


So you carry a firearm to defend yourself against other people who might be carrying a firearm. So we're agreed that if nobody else was carry a firearm you wouldn't need to either.


What a foolish arguement

I carry because there are criminals and they have guns/knifes/bats or multiple groups.

What happens when my husband and i encounter three men who want to hurt me?

Also it helps woman equal the playing field against some rapists.

See above. Also, most rape is committed by someone the victim knows, not by a street tough in a dark alley at knife point.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:34 am

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Really? I read there was 3 shooters. I guess it was right as the attack happened so info was blurry. sorry.

Nope. Only one shooter
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Arkinesia wrote:
Camicon wrote:No, I hate people dying unnecessarily because of the USA's fucked up firearm regulations. Or, rather, lack thereof.

The gun used in this incident was almost certainly not legal. You can't just walk into Walmart and buy an AK.

Dysmastan wrote:Your lack of empathy for the deceased is troubling..

My unwillingness to bend to groupthink conspiracy theorizing is now “lack of empathy.” Wow. We're reaching levels of irony here that shouldn't even be possible.

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What I want to know is how ONE MAN thats SIXTY FOUR years old shot around 600 people!
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:34 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Probably because self-defense/American culture

Nah man, we're all a bunch of wanabe Rambos, did you not get the group text?

I never get group texts
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Postby Kash Island » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:35 am

Shamhnan Insir wrote:
Kash Island wrote:
What a foolish arguement

I carry because there are criminals and they have guns/knifes/bats or multiple groups.

What happens when my husband and i encounter three men who want to hurt me?

Also it helps woman equal the playing field against some rapists.

From this I gather you live a life in perpetual fear.



You really should work on those judgment skills

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Kennlind wrote:What I want to know is how ONE MAN thats SIXTY FOUR years old shot around 600 people!

Area targets are easy peasy. It's like stampeding fish in a barrel.
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Postby Camicon » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:36 am

Galloism wrote:
Camicon wrote:It's fucked up that you were required to carry when off duty.

/shrug

The department never wanted us to get caught flat footed.

I mean, it's a bit like wearing your seatbelt in an airliner while it's cruising. The chances of actually needing it are pretty stinking small. However, when you suddenly hit clear air turbulence without warning, you'll be glad you had it on.

Guess that makes sense if you're policing in the US. Still, hammers and nails, and all that.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:36 am

Kennlind wrote:What I want to know is how ONE MAN thats SIXTY FOUR years old shot around 600 people!

Well there were 22,000 people at the concert he was shooting at so, you know, point gun, pull trigger.

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