Mass Shooting at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas

[Thermodolia]

I was just wondering, because of these two broken windows:



Do you think maybe they could be two separate rooms? Or am I just jumping to conclusions?

Thats the same floor

And it's a corner, and those rooms are pretty large

[The 502nd Ghost Division]

So you would condemn those who have saved their/loved ones lives with firearms to death then?

Good Guys With Guns sure did wonders here.

I thought the shooter was killed by the police, so yeah good guys with guns stopped him.

[Thermodolia]

So does Beslan school siege I mean 385 dead there, Moscow theater hostage crisis about 170 dead their as well

Russia is not an EU state

It's in Europe and France sure is. Bataclan happened in France

[Kash Island]

So you would condemn those who have saved their/loved ones lives with firearms to death then?

Good Guys With Guns sure did wonders here.

What an ignorant thing to say

[Keshiland]

Give me stats on how often that happens.

I mean, good luck finding any. You can thank the NRA for killing all attempts at establishing a national database to track firearm violence.

Look we get it, you hate people having guns.

If we registered guns we would know where all the legal ones were and thus know what ones are illegal but noooooooo guns over people apparently

[Camicon]

Give me stats on how often that happens.

I mean, good luck finding any. You can thank the NRA for killing all attempts at establishing a national database to track firearm violence.

Look we get it, you hate people having guns.

No, I hate people dying unnecessarily because of the USA's fucked up firearm regulations. Or, rather, lack thereof.

[Sovaal]

Ah, down to strawmanning are we? Anyway, while tragic, it doesn't change my opinion that self defense from all threats and access to the means is a human right. That's not to say that I'm opposed to licensing and training. But you go ahead and put words in my mouth and strawman my position if it makes you feel good about yourself.

You said that you don't agree with background checks on all sales, or firearm licenses for ownership and carry. That's not a strawman. Those are the most basic firearm regulations possible. They make it slightly more difficult to obtain a deadly weapon, and you don't agree with them.

Your words, my application to reality.

I said I don't necessarily agree, not that I'm opposed if done right. But if you're not even going to discuss my actual views I think we're done here.

[Gig em Aggies]

So does Beslan school siege I mean 385 dead there, Moscow theater hostage crisis about 170 dead their as well

Russia is not an EU state

What when did the EU come into this'll your simply stating mass shootings of this caliber only happen in America and both of us have given you three separate examples outside of the US that happened in the last 17 years.

[Nakena]

So does Beslan school siege I mean 385 dead there, Moscow theater hostage crisis about 170 dead their as well

Russia is not an EU state

Weak argument. The weapons used in all those cases including Las Vegas were by all likehood illegal.

The Gun used in Mandalay was full auto. Possibly even an LMG.

[Camicon]

You said that you don't agree with background checks on all sales, or firearm licenses for ownership and carry. That's not a strawman. Those are the most basic firearm regulations possible. They make it slightly more difficult to obtain a deadly weapon, and you don't agree with them.

Your words, my application to reality.

I said I don't necessarily agree, not that I'm opposed if done right. But if you're not even going to discuss my actual views I think we're done here.

Perhaps use your words more carefully, because I'm not going to spend my day second-guessing you if you say "I don't agree with background checks and firearm licenses".

[Kramania]

Good Guys With Guns sure did wonders here.

What an ignorant thing to say

Not unusual for him.

[Kash Island]

Look we get it, you hate people having guns.

No, I hate people dying unnecessarily because of the USA's fucked up firearm regulations. Or, rather, lack thereof.

Twisted logic to justfy disarming innocent people.

[Gig em Aggies]

Look we get it, you hate people having guns.

If we registered guns we would know where all the legal ones were and thus know what ones are illegal but noooooooo guns over people apparently

Your wrong theirs this thing criminals use called filing down the registration number that makes the guns impossible to locate and or track so again your logic won't work.

[Sovaal]

I said I don't necessarily agree, not that I'm opposed if done right. But if you're not even going to discuss my actual views I think we're done here.

Perhaps use your words more carefully, because I'm not going to spend my day second-guessing you if you say "I don't agree with background checks and firearm licenses".

And, yes, poor word choice is on me.
Still doesn't mean you get to strawman my arguments.

[Keshiland]

Russia is not an EU state

It's in Europe and France sure is. Bataclan happened in France

Yes and they have had 3 max a year. If you go back pre isis gun deaths were not a thing. Still more deaths then they had all year. Oh and the UK has on average 75 deaths by guns per year
0.25 per 100,000

[Gauthier]

Good Guys With Guns sure did wonders here.

I thought the shooter was killed by the police, so yeah good guys with guns stopped him.

Didn't he shoot himself when police arrived?

[Kennlind]

BANNING GUNS DOESN'T CAUSE STUFF LIKE THIS TO STOP!!
Ban the weapon and what's that gonna do? Push people who are WILLING TO COMMIT A TERROR ATTACK to go and buy them illegally giving money to criminals!!! Sort the underlying problems that drove these people to commit these attacks!!

[The 502nd Ghost Division]

I thought the shooter was killed by the police, so yeah good guys with guns stopped him.

Didn't he shoot himself when police arrived?

I don't know, I thought you knew.

[Camicon]

No, I hate people dying unnecessarily because of the USA's fucked up firearm regulations. Or, rather, lack thereof.

Twisted logic to justfy disarming innocent people.

People don't need to be packing heat everywhere they go if there's a near certainty that the guy they pass on the street isn't also packing heat.

Kinda like how no private citizens own a functioning Abrams tank or Predator drone, so nobody else needs to arm themselves similarly.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

It's in Europe and France sure is. Bataclan happened in France

Yes and they have had 3 max a year. If you go back pre isis gun deaths were not a thing. Still more deaths then they had all year. Oh and the UK has on average 75 deaths by guns per year
0.25 per 100,000

75 is more than 60 fam.

[Kennlind]

I thought the shooter was killed by the police, so yeah good guys with guns stopped him.

Didn't he shoot himself when police arrived?

One suspect was shot by police, one of them killed themselves.

[Keshiland]

If we registered guns we would know where all the legal ones were and thus know what ones are illegal but noooooooo guns over people apparently

Your wrong theirs this thing criminals use called filing down the registration number that makes the guns impossible to locate and or track so again your logic won't work.

So why do we have more gun deaths then all of CA EU UK JP SK AU and NZ combined?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

I thought the shooter was killed by the police, so yeah good guys with guns stopped him.

Didn't he shoot himself when police arrived?

What a great guy.

[Camicon]

Perhaps use your words more carefully, because I'm not going to spend my day second-guessing you if you say "I don't agree with background checks and firearm licenses".

And, yes, poor word choice is on me.
Still doesn't mean you get to strawman my arguments.

it's not a strawman if you clarify yourself after the fact. But if it really irritates you so much then I retract what I said.

[Galloism]

Yes and they have had 3 max a year. If you go back pre isis gun deaths were not a thing. Still more deaths then they had all year. Oh and the UK has on average 75 deaths by guns per year
0.25 per 100,000

75 is more than 60 fam.

Math, how's it work?