Mass Shooting at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas

[San Lumen]

and how do background and mental health checks, safety pins and assault weapon bans steamroll your liberties?

The first two don't, if executed correctly. Don't know what a "safety pin" is. I have a right to an "assalt weapon" and taking away something I have a right to is wrong.

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment? A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

[Telconi]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

It will be surpassed eventually and events like this will keep happening over and over again and each time it will be the same meaningless gestures of thoughts and prayers but no action to keep it from happening again. I and others have become numb to events like this because I know its not going to change for the foreseeable future.

I wonder what it will take. A personal tragedy to a member of Congress losing one of their family members in a mass shooting? Which i don't want to happen.

It'll take reasonable people actually coming to the table and discussing what can be done. But unfortunately, there don't seem to be reasonable people.

[Len Hyet]

The first two don't, if executed correctly. Don't know what a "safety pin" is. I have a right to an "assalt weapon" and taking away something I have a right to is wrong.

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment? A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

1. Home defense.
2. In case of tyranny.
3. Because I want one.

Do you mean, like, just a normal safety?

[Sovaal]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

It will be surpassed eventually and events like this will keep happening over and over again and each time it will be the same meaningless gestures of thoughts and prayers but no action to keep it from happening again. I and others have become numb to events like this because I know its not going to change for the foreseeable future.

I wonder what it will take. A personal tragedy to a member of Congress losing one of their family members in a mass shooting? Which i don't want to happen.

Remember when Congress members where actually shot?

Anyway, it'll happen when sensible legislation is put forth.

Which I have doubts will happen soon.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Well... they do...

No they don't. For what purpose would you need to carry an assault rifle into a store for?

Repair/warranty work (assuming it's an outdoor store like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop/Gander Mountain/etc)? No way to secure it in your vehicle before/after going to the range/hunting (assuming an open top vehicle with no lockable trunk)?

[Telconi]

The first two don't, if executed correctly. Don't know what a "safety pin" is. I have a right to an "assalt weapon" and taking away something I have a right to is wrong.

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment? A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

Round and around the merry go round goes.

[Gauthier]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

It will be surpassed eventually and events like this will keep happening over and over again and each time it will be the same meaningless gestures of thoughts and prayers but no action to keep it from happening again. I and others have become numb to events like this because I know its not going to change for the foreseeable future.

I wonder what it will take. A personal tragedy to a member of Congress losing one of their family members in a mass shooting? Which i don't want to happen.

And of course empty calls for mental healthcare funding, perpetuating the Psycho Killer stereotype despite people repeatedly telling me the mentally ill are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Dooom35796821595]

As mentally ill, not suggesting that inability to understand basic finance is itself a mental illness, only a potential symptom.

No further exploration was done, the regulation as it previously existed placed anyone who both A) received social security benefits and B) had someone other than themselves manage finances, on the no guns list in NICS.

That doesn't sound unreasonable.

Obviously that dosen't require an individual to have a diagnosed mental illness to be placed on the no gun list, just to show symptoms of mental infirmness.

[San Lumen]

No they don't. For what purpose would you need to carry an assault rifle into a store for?

Repair/warranty work (assuming it's an outdoor store like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop/Gander Mountain/etc)? No way to secure it in your vehicle before/after going to the range/hunting (assuming an open top vehicle with no lockable trunk)?

Last time i checked places like Wal Mart and Target don't sell guns.

[Sovaal]

The first two don't, if executed correctly. Don't know what a "safety pin" is. I have a right to an "assalt weapon" and taking away something I have a right to is wrong.

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment?

Same reason for any other rifle.

A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

A more common word for that is just safety.

[Sovaal]

Repair/warranty work (assuming it's an outdoor store like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop/Gander Mountain/etc)? No way to secure it in your vehicle before/after going to the range/hunting (assuming an open top vehicle with no lockable trunk)?

Last time i checked places like Wal Mart and Target don't sell guns.

Wallmart does.

Of course, I wouldn't ever buy from them.

[San Lumen]

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment? A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

Round and around the merry go round goes.

and yet again you didn't answer my question?

[Gauthier]

Repair/warranty work (assuming it's an outdoor store like Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop/Gander Mountain/etc)? No way to secure it in your vehicle before/after going to the range/hunting (assuming an open top vehicle with no lockable trunk)?

Last time i checked places like Wal Mart and Target don't sell guns.

Wally World used to anyway. They still sell ammo.

[San Lumen]

what the hell do you need an assault weapon for? Are you in an army regiment?

Same reason for any other rifle.

A safety pin prevents the gun from being fired if its in locked position.

A more common word for that is just safety.

An assault weapon is a weapon of war. And what is wrong with a safety? How does that infringe on your second amendment rights?

[Telconi]

No further exploration was done, the regulation as it previously existed placed anyone who both A) received social security benefits and B) had someone other than themselves manage finances, on the no guns list in NICS.

That doesn't sound unreasonable.

There''s nothing beyond loose circumstantial evidence that these people might be mentally incompetent to own or operate a firearm. I personally don't see it as reasonable to remove a fundamental right from someone based upon such shaky evidence. It would be like the government passing a regulation saying that someone who is both Hispanic, and asks for their ballot in Spanish doesn't get to vote.

[San Lumen]

That doesn't sound unreasonable.

There''s nothing beyond loose circumstantial evidence that these people might be mentally incompetent to own or operate a firearm. I personally don't see it as reasonable to remove a fundamental right from someone based upon such shaky evidence. It would be like the government passing a regulation saying that someone who is both Hispanic, and asks for their ballot in Spanish doesn't get to vote.

Im sure Congress or a state legislature run by the GOP would love to pass a law like that but make buying a gun even easier.

[Len Hyet]

Same reason for any other rifle.

A more common word for that is just safety.

An assault weapon is a weapon of war. And what is wrong with a safety? How does that infringe on your second amendment rights?

1. No, it is not. Unless you're talking about an actual assault weapon, like an M16/M4. In which case those are heavily restricted, to the point that most people just think they're flat out illegal.
2. I think you're confusing a safety with something else. Like 90% of guns have a safety.

[Thermodolia]

Looks aren't everything dude. You have already shown that you know jackshit about guns.

According to some people black people look scary, when in fact they aren't.

So what purposes do bump stocks serve besides circumventing restrictions on full auto weapons?

Where did I say anything of the sort?

[Sovaal]

Same reason for any other rifle.

A more common word for that is just safety.

An assault weapon is a weapon of war.

All rifles are weapons of war, at one point in their lives. And no major country currently uses just semi-auto rifles as their standard issue weapon.

And what is wrong with a safety? How does that infringe on your second amendment rights?

It doesn't, in fact they come on most guns. Show me where I said that they did.

[Sovaal]

So what purposes do bump stocks serve besides circumventing restrictions on full auto weapons?

Where did I say anything of the sort?

Remember, putting words into peoples mouths is only bad when people do it to Gauth./s

[Gauthier]

So what purposes do bump stocks serve besides circumventing restrictions on full auto weapons?

Where did I say anything of the sort?

It's a valid question considering you're arguing semiautos have legitimate civilian applications.

[Telconi]

Round and around the merry go round goes.

and yet again you didn't answer my question?

I have, like sixteen thousand times. Assault rifles are for shooting bad guys.

[Gauthier]

Where did I say anything of the sort?

Remember, putting words into peoples mouths is only bad when people do it to Gauth./s

Because asking a question is putting words in other people's mouths.

[Sovaal]

Where did I say anything of the sort?

It's a valid question considering you're arguing semiautos have legitimate civilian applications.

Didn't know that you couldn't own and use semi-autos with out ever even touching a bump fire stock.

[Albrenia]

In the forlorn hope of getting y'all to stop yelling at each other, may I ask a question for those on the pro-gun side of the fence?

What sort of measures would you like taken in response to this tragedy? These don't have to be gun control measures obviously, but things you think would strike a good balance of making this sort of thing less likely, but keep your rights in place?