Mass Shooting at Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas

[Keskinen]

Yes...yes they are, functionally not cosmetically, the exact same. The Mini-14 is a modernized version of the M1 Garand/M1 Carbine/M14 family, all of which are semi-automatic. By the way, semi-automatic means that for one pull of the trigger, the weapon will fire one round and will be able to fire again when the trigger is re-depressed.

Point of Order, the M1 carbine is a separate design independent of the M1 Garand/M14 design lineage, while it shares such traits as an open top receiver, a rotating bolt, and similar piston design, it was developed separately and independently, and does have functional differences in operation.

Yeah, I remembered that after I wrote it. Forgot John Garand didn't have anything to do with the carbine.

But regardless, the overarching point stands.

[Kramania]

Stronger background checks, mental health checks, better treatment for the mentally ill, etc.

There. Not that hard. Now stop thinking that everyone who doesn't 100% agree with you is opposed to all gun regulation.

Then tell me why Congress wont pass it and continues to make it easier to buy guns and have less and less regulation. They recently removed regulations regarding mentally ill people buying guns.

Go fucking ask Congress. Why are you asking me? I'm not a member of Congress and I don't speak for them.

Also source on the last bit.

[Telconi]

So what do you propose to end the gun violence and mass shooting in America? A problem no other country in world has on the scale of the US. Or should people just accept it as normal?

Obviously if people don't have guns they deserve to die, natural selection and all. *nod*

Five thousand eight hundred and twenty posts. And I've yet to see one serious one...

[Kramania]

Obviously if people don't have guns they deserve to die, natural selection and all. *nod*

Five thousand eight hundred and twenty posts. And I've yet to see one serious one...

You get used to it.

[San Lumen]

Then tell me why Congress wont pass it and continues to make it easier to buy guns and have less and less regulation. They recently removed regulations regarding mentally ill people buying guns.

Go fucking ask Congress. Why are you asking me? I'm not a member of Congress and I don't speak for them.

Also source on the last bit.

Here's your source

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tr ... al-n727221

[Albrenia]

Wow. I guess people need private armies to protect themselves from tyranny too? Maybe it's for sport or collecting... Heh...

I highly doubt that pricate battleships are needed, and wouldn't be too upset if they weren't allowed, but the point is the founding fathers were routine proponents of civilian participation in military operations.

Yeah, I know what you meant. I'm mostly just wallowing in my own resignation that neither side wants to do anything more than call the other names instead of figuring out solutions to the problem.

Solutions that don't even need to involve guns, mind you.

[Sovaal]

Neither, caliber isn't high enough (at least, in my state).

The second one is what you should be using. Im sorry you think Shredding the deer with bullets is fun and humane or nessacery.

And now I know that we shouldn't base gun laws on your opinion.

[Sovaal]

So what do you propose to end the gun violence and mass shooting in America? A problem no other country in world has on the scale of the US. Or should people just accept it as normal?

Obviously if people don't have guns they deserve to die, natural selection and all. *nod*

Show me where anybody said that.

Or is it only bad to put words into mouths when it's your mouth?

[Telconi]

Go fucking ask Congress. Why are you asking me? I'm not a member of Congress and I don't speak for them.

Also source on the last bit.

Here's your source

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tr ... al-n727221

Care to point out where in the medical texts "I need my son's help to manage my finances" is?

[San Lumen]

The second one is what you should be using. Im sorry you think Shredding the deer with bullets is fun and humane or nessacery.

And now I know that we shouldn't base gun laws on your opinion.

how is not wanting to see a deer shredded with bullets a bad thing?

[San Lumen]

Here's your source

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tr ... al-n727221

Care to point out where in the medical texts "I need my son's help to manage my finances" is?

What in the world are you talking about?

[Sovaal]

And now I know that we shouldn't base gun laws on your opinion.

how is not wanted to see a deer shredded with bullets a bad thing?

The first rifle won't shred a deer with bullets anymore then the second one will. In fact they are nearly identical in function.

[Kramania]

And now I know that we shouldn't base gun laws on your opinion.

how is not wanting to see a deer shredded with bullets a bad thing?

I fail to see why anyone should care. They aren't endangered. And bullets typically offer a fairly quick death.

And animals brutalize each other all the time. Seriously, who cares?

[Gauthier]

Obviously if people don't have guns they deserve to die, natural selection and all. *nod*

Show me where anybody said that.

Or is it only bad to put words into mouths when it's your mouth?

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

[Telconi]

Care to point out where in the medical texts "I need my son's help to manage my finances" is?

What in the world are you talking about?

Well the article refers to people who need help managing their finances as "mentally ill" so I asked you to point out, in some sort of medical textbook or source, where that is a diagnose blessed mental illness...

And now I know that we shouldn't base gun laws on your opinion.

how is not wanting to see a deer shredded with bullets a bad thing?

It's not, your knowledge of what would or would not do said shredding is what's bad.

[Telconi]

Show me where anybody said that.

Or is it only bad to put words into mouths when it's your mouth?

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

Or maybe the message is "Find a way to prevent murders that doesn't involve steamrolling in my liberties"

[Sovaal]

Show me where anybody said that.

Or is it only bad to put words into mouths when it's your mouth?

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

So no one actually said that, and you're just strawmanning?

[Kramania]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

So no one actually said that, and you're just strawmanning?

Precisely.

[Gauthier]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

So no one actually said that, and you're just strawmanning?

So points are only allowed to be brought up strictly on pedantic quoting. Okay, can't argue something if nobody talks about.

[San Lumen]

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

Or maybe the message is "Find a way to prevent murders that doesn't involve steamroll in my liberties"

and how do background and mental health checks, safety pins and assault weapon bans steamroll your liberties?

[Dooom35796821595]

What in the world are you talking about?

Well the article refers to people who need help managing their finances as "mentally ill" so I asked you to point out, in some sort of medical textbook or source, where that is a diagnose blessed mental illness...

As mentally ill, not suggesting that inability to understand basic finance is itself a mental illness, only a potential symptom.

[Telconi]

Or maybe the message is "Find a way to prevent murders that doesn't involve steamroll in my liberties"

and how do background and mental health checks, safety pins and assault weapon bans steamroll your liberties?

The first two don't, if executed correctly. Don't know what a "safety pin" is. I have a right to an "assalt weapon" and taking away something I have a right to is wrong.

[Sovaal]

So no one actually said that, and you're just strawmanning?

So points are only allowed to be brought up strictly on pedantic quoting. Okay, can't argue something if nobody talks about.

Or maybe you shouldn't strawman the arguments of others.

[San Lumen]

Show me where anybody said that.

Or is it only bad to put words into mouths when it's your mouth?

Given that nothing will be done regarding guns in the aftermath of one of the biggest mass shootings in United States history, the underlying message is the same: Get Armed or Get Rekt.

It will be surpassed eventually and events like this will keep happening over and over again and each time it will be the same meaningless gestures of thoughts and prayers but no action to keep it from happening again. I and others have become numb to events like this because I know its not going to change for the foreseeable future.

I wonder what it will take. A personal tragedy to a member of Congress losing one of their family members in a mass shooting? Which i don't want to happen.

[Telconi]

Well the article refers to people who need help managing their finances as "mentally ill" so I asked you to point out, in some sort of medical textbook or source, where that is a diagnose blessed mental illness...

As mentally ill, not suggesting that inability to understand basic finance is itself a mental illness, only a potential symptom.

No further exploration was done, the regulation as it previously existed placed anyone who both A) received social security benefits and B) had someone other than themselves manage finances, on the no guns list in NICS.